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h20ski 11-02-2013 09:06 AM

Trash Pile
 
Can someone give me gps coordinates or point it out on satellite map where is trash pile. we are new to the area.
Thanks

Anth0ny 11-02-2013 10:14 AM

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yigodiver 11-02-2013 10:17 AM

I have in my GPS, but its at home and I am in Pesacola, go to Lousiana Sportsman, and search for Captain Paul, then search again for Trash Pile, he have give it there I will see what I can find.
http://www.louisianasportsman.com/details.php?id=291

Check out this link got some good general info.

redaddiction 11-02-2013 10:26 AM

I've always known it to be the area north west of mud point. Not to the east of it. And it covers a huge area. Just wish there were still "trash" in the spot. It's all silted over now. 20 years ago you couldn't bounce a bait on the bottom without getting hung up.

Goooh 11-02-2013 10:56 AM

I don't believe Capt Phil's coords for trash pile, it shows it sitting on mud point (or where mud point used to be).


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meaux fishing 11-02-2013 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by redaddiction (Post 640645)
I've always known it to be the area north west of mud point. Not to the east of it. And it covers a huge area. Just wish there were still "trash" in the spot. It's all silted over now. 20 years ago you couldn't bounce a bait on the bottom without getting hung up.

Yep

Montauk17 11-02-2013 12:13 PM

Just look for 100 boats sitting in one spot

Dogface 11-02-2013 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by redaddiction (Post 640645)
I've always known it to be the area north west of mud point. Not to the east of it. And it covers a huge area. Just wish there were still "trash" in the spot. It's all silted over now. 20 years ago you couldn't bounce a bait on the bottom without getting hung up.

Definately to the west of mud point.

alphaman 11-02-2013 02:21 PM

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The trash pile is in this area

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Goooh 11-02-2013 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Montauk17 (Post 640660)
Just look for 100 boats sitting in one spot

Google earth is great for this. Zoom on the rough area and start scanning, you'll see them there!


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MarshRat89 11-02-2013 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Anth0ny (Post 640641)
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Crazy how much of pelican point is gone now.


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Anth0ny 11-02-2013 06:49 PM

I know man looks like we won't have any left in 10-20years

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Speck Attack 11-02-2013 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by alphaman (Post 640670)
The trash pile is in this area

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Yes sir...that is the area.

cajun 11-05-2013 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by h20ski (Post 640629)
Can someone give me gps coordinates or point it out on satellite map where is trash pile. we are new to the area.
Thanks

In the late 1980's we did a survey of the boundaries of the trash pile for the Port of Iberia.
The coordinated we found are as follows:
N 29° 47' 29.9760 W 91° 52' 20.2476 TP1
N 29° 48' 19.4142 W 91° 51' 59.5938 TP2
N 29° 48' 18.7992 W 91° 50' 58.3506 TP3
N 29° 48' 2.11320 W 91° 50' 46.2444 TP4
N 29° 48' 1.49400 W 91° 51' 28.9722 TP5


Connecting these points closing with a line from TP5 to TP1 defines the area. I hope this helps.


cajun bill 11-08-2013 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by cajun (Post 641515)
In the late 1980's we did a survey of the boundaries of the trash pile for the Port of Iberia.
The coordinated we found are as follows:
N 29° 47' 29.9760 W 91° 52' 20.2476 TP1
N 29° 48' 19.4142 W 91° 51' 59.5938 TP2
N 29° 48' 18.7992 W 91° 50' 58.3506 TP3
N 29° 48' 2.11320 W 91° 50' 46.2444 TP4
N 29° 48' 1.49400 W 91° 51' 28.9722 TP5


Connecting these points closing with a line from TP5 to TP1 defines the area. I hope this helps.

Cajun, many thanks, been looking for something definitive like this for awhile.

ike84 11-08-2013 02:53 PM

Now there will be 20 boats at each waypoint on saturday!.

bgizzle 11-08-2013 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by ike84 (Post 642405)
Now there will be 20 boats at each waypoint on saturday!.

Get there first!!! ;)


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ImBrowsin 11-11-2013 04:04 PM

How does this set of coordinates for the Trash Pile breakdown for a Humminbird unit... My unit uses (example): N29* 29/976 and W091* 20.247..... Another thing is on the last two sets of coordinates the N reads 2.11320 and 1.49400.... Is this an error??? I have looked the biggest part of a day to find a conversion table on the internet to change it over to the format of my Humminbird... Thanks in advance for the reply...

cajun bill 11-11-2013 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by ImBrowsin (Post 642988)
How does this set of coordinates for the Trash Pile breakdown for a Humminbird unit... My unit uses (example): N29* 29/976 and W091* 20.247..... Another thing is on the last two sets of coordinates the N reads 2.11320 and 1.49400.... Is this an error??? I have looked the biggest part of a day to find a conversion table on the internet to change it over to the format of my Humminbird... Thanks in advance for the reply...

I think you might be missing some numbers for the minutes, but the last set of numbers should be the seconds so if you divide the last set of numbers by 60, i.e. 20.247 divided by 60 would give you .337 for the seconds entry. Not sure about the "coordinates the N reads 2.11320 and 1.49400" maybe that could be the decimal version of some coordinates?

wishin i was fishin 11-11-2013 07:47 PM

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browsin, your unit is set to degrees:minutes, the coordinates posted is in degree:minutes:seconds.

you can either change the setting on your unit or convert it in google earth.

to do google earth, go to tools-options and change the lat long setting to D:M:S, and create the waypoint/placemark. once created go back and change the setting to D:M and it will convert to the new format.

see the screenshot below for the google earth setting window.

ImBrowsin 11-12-2013 12:06 AM

Cajun Bill.... I have looked over the coordinates again and for the fourth and fifth set of coordinates the North Line is not the same setup as the other three... I did enter the coordinates on google earth and got a very good picture of the boundries of teh trash pile but there are the fourth and fifth set of coordinates thar just don't seem to fit... I'm still searching for the breakdown on how to convert those numbers into a coordinate for google earth, humminbird, garmin or lowrance...I do thank you for the information you provided and any additional input would be appreciated...

wishin i was fishin 11-12-2013 02:33 PM

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This is what I got from the coordinates. Is this correct?

ImBrowsin 11-12-2013 04:47 PM

This is basicly what I got as well.... The only thing I can't quiet understand is the Lat. coordinates for TP4 and TP5... The last set of numbers with one digit and then a dot with the five or so numbers after that is a little confusing... Of course I'm a long shot from being even an amature survey helper... I was once told the only dumb question is the one that you don't ask... Guess I'm going with it like this as well unless someone breaks down the TP4 & TP5 into a (Example: 37.487) number...

T-Bone 11-12-2013 05:04 PM

If you swap coordinates 3 and 4 then it would make a rectangle. Just an idea.

wishin i was fishin 11-12-2013 06:41 PM

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ok, had some numbers wrong which is why im not an accountant. this looks better though.

daxt79 11-12-2013 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by wishin i was fishin (Post 643269)
ok, had some numbers wrong which is why im not an accountant. this looks better though.

That's what mine looks like ;)

Dink 11-12-2013 06:55 PM

Guess ill be fishing east this weekend?

Goooh 11-12-2013 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Dink (Post 643275)
Guess ill be fishing east this weekend?

Just fish during the week!

wishin i was fishin 11-12-2013 09:58 PM

I ran through the middle of this with my HDS side scan I went past the trash pile waypoint on the hook and line map which basically right in the middle of this area. As redaddiction said earlier it is all silted up. I didn't see jack.

cajun bill 11-12-2013 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by wishin i was fishin (Post 643269)
ok, had some numbers wrong which is why im not an accountant. this looks better though.

Yes, that is what my plotted coodinates look like. Even tho it might be silted up, it apparently still draws fish. Probably like the old stump field at the Hammock. BTW, does anyone have the coordinates for that?

Another BTW, about five years ago, a friend of mine and I were fishing very near what appears in this pic as TP1 and we loaded up on very nice trout along with many other boats. We were all lined up like a parade as the fish kept moving back and forth. Ah yes, the good old days.

wishin i was fishin 11-12-2013 10:27 PM

The boat gang were stacked up between these coordinates and mud point. Not sure if they were catching or not. the water was still a bit muddy then.

ImBrowsin 11-12-2013 11:30 PM

So what would the final coordinates be for TP4 & TP5... This way I can go ahead and put it in my Humminbird... I want to run the sides can over the area as well... Thanks in advance for the final coordinates....

Gilmo 11-13-2013 08:26 AM

I grew up on Vbay and always considered the Trash Pile a little west of those coordinates. I learned it from the ole timers I fished with back in the day when we didn't know what a GPS was. We used to draw a line from the salt mine on weeks island to the second marker (#18) out of the commercial canal, and center yourself halfway between that marker and mud point. The problem with this today is that mud point is nearly 1/4 mile shorter. Anyway, the stumps are nearly gone, but there still irregularities on the bottom that you will pick up with your sonar. I picked them up on Monday, when we stopped there for a little while. I think the exact location has always been debated. Most just fish where the rest of the boats are, so it's the first guy's fault if it's the wrong place!:rotfl:

Duck Butter 11-13-2013 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by ImBrowsin (Post 643226)
This is basicly what I got as well.... The only thing I can't quiet understand is the Lat. coordinates for TP4 and TP5... The last set of numbers with one digit and then a dot with the five or so numbers after that is a little confusing... Of course I'm a long shot from being even an amature survey helper... I was once told the only dumb question is the one that you don't ask... Guess I'm going with it like this as well unless someone breaks down the TP4 & TP5 into a (Example: 37.487) number...

The more numbers, the more accurate. For instance 32.105 will get you within say 100 units of the true spot. 32.1053 will get you within say 10 units and 32.10533 will get you within 1 unit. (just an example, the units (meters/feet/inches/centimeters, etc.) will depend on your settings

wishin i was fishin 11-13-2013 01:14 PM

this is the most definition of the trashpile i have ever seen in all my years. i will make a few more passes through to see if i find anything more in the area.

cajun 11-14-2013 09:56 AM

Trash Pile Revised Coordinates
 
I cleaned up the table that I provided to include DM.D values.

DMS_________________________________DM.D__________ ___________
N 29° 47' 29.9760" W 91° 52' 20.2476" TP1 N 29° 47.4996' W 91° 52.3375'
N 29° 48' 19.4142" W 91° 51' 59.5938" TP2 N 29° 48.3236' W 91° 51.9932'
N 29° 48' 18.7992" W 91° 50' 58.3506" TP3 N 29° 48.3133' W 91° 50.9725'
N 29° 48' 02.1132" W 91° 50' 46.2444" TP4 N 29° 48.0352' W 91° 50.7707'
N 29° 48' 01.4940" W 91° 51' 28.9722" TP5 N 29° 48.0249' W 91° 51.4829'

Please keep in mind that the values were converted from LORAN C and have an accuracy of +- 100'.

This survey was done when the Port of Iberia was studying the feasibility of digging a deep water channel from the port, through Vermillion Bay, to Southwest Pass.
They did not want the Trash Pile to be affected by the channel. Since the water was too shallow to use side scanning sonar, we utilized underwater cameras and divers to determine the boundaries. At the time GPS was not available and we used Loran C to determine the location.The project never did materialize.

cajun 11-14-2013 11:19 AM

By the way, at the time that the survey was made, TP4 was close to and just North of mud point. That may explain the previous comments about the location.

MattMigues 11-14-2013 12:53 PM

i have lots of numbers and there are many places, thats just what we consider mud point, trash pile is out west and lots more stumps we used to drift with jig head and dead shrimp if we'd hang up we'd drop anchor and fish if there were lots of hangs mark it no fish pick anchor up and continue drifting. used to murder reds like that. now i have 8-10 stump clusters marked and drift em all until we find fish.

MattMigues 11-14-2013 12:54 PM

and the bank is eroding so fast its hard to line up like 10-15 years ago

bml5233 11-14-2013 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by MattMigues (Post 643652)
i have lots of numbers and there are many places, thats just what we consider mud point, trash pile is out west and lots more stumps we used to drift with jig head and dead shrimp if we'd hang up we'd drop anchor and fish if there were lots of hangs mark it no fish pick anchor up and continue drifting. used to murder reds like that. now i have 8-10 stump clusters marked and drift em all until we find fish.

I second that motion...I grew up doing the same thing fishing the stumps that are very far away from the bank now because of erosion. Those stumps are money makers at times. Some coordinates I have are 40+ years old that my grandfather had and still produce fish.

Goooh 11-14-2013 07:10 PM

39 posts

2500 views, I know where I won't be this weekend!

alphaman 11-14-2013 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Goooh (Post 643717)
39 posts

2500 views, I know where I won't be this weekend!

Lol

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redneck 11-14-2013 08:12 PM

I like the idea of divers finding the coordinates. I have been tempted to do a little snorkeling reconnaisance in the summer, but being from North Louisiana, I think I am scared of sharks. My fish finder must not be very good because I can't see much that looks like a stump there.

"W" 11-14-2013 08:16 PM

Trash Pile or Bust this Saturday!!!

Euurryyy boddy gurrruen


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