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duckman1911 01-30-2014 10:07 PM

Preffered Carry Weapon and Stlye
 
What do y'all carry and how? Are you a several gun and holster guy or a stick with what you know works guy?
I carry a Gov. Model 1911 or a Springfield XD Tactical. Both in .45 ACP and both are carried in Kydex holsters strong side behind the point of the hip.
I open carry so I prefer a full sized gun. If im not hiding it theres no since carrying a small weapon. I'd carry my AR if it wouldn't get in the way at work.

Bluechip 01-30-2014 10:17 PM

LCR9 or Bersa. 380 in front pocket.

Matt G 01-30-2014 10:27 PM

Bersa 380 in a hybrid holster in the 4 o'clock position. Don't knock it till you try it. The gun is cheap as $ hit but I've never had any issues with it and its amazingly accurate. I've dropped a possum at a good distance on a drive-by! I usually shoot Hornady Critical Defense. This setup is starting to be replaced by my other squeeze.

S&W MP9 VTAC in either a custom made kydex holster in the 4 o'clock position (there isn't as much of a cant as I would prefer to minimize printing) or I've also grown fond of the Bravo Concealment D.O.S. holster carried AIWB in the 1 o'clock position. I also shoot the Critical Defense rounds with this, but after reading MG's responses in the other thread I may start looking for a different ammo.

duckman1911 01-30-2014 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Bluechip (Post 662605)
LCR9 or Bersa. 380 in front pocket.

The Ruger line of LC Pistols are great. Our daughter has the LCP380. For its small size its a really accurate pistol. I can regularly make hits on my 12x14" plates out to 30 yards with that tiny 380. As usual, Ruger has another line of quality, good shooting guns.

duckman1911 01-30-2014 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Matt G (Post 662607)
Bersa 380 in a hybrid holster in the 4 o'clock position. Don't knock it till you try it. The gun is cheap as $ hit but I've never had any issues with it and its amazingly accurate. I've dropped a possum at a good distance on a drive-by! I usually shoot Hornady Critical Defense. This setup is starting to be replaced by my other squeeze.

S&W MP9 VTAC in either a custom made kydex holster in the 4 o'clock position (there isn't as much of a cant as I would prefer to minimize printing) or I've also grown fond of the Bravo Concealment D.O.S. holster carried AIWB in the 1 o'clock position. I also shoot the Critical Defense rounds with this, but after reading MG's responses in the other thread I may start looking for a different ammo.

I have never used any of the Critical Defense ammo. If it comes from Hornady its gona be good. I have carried Hornady XTP's and killed a few rabbits and coons with. It did its job but didn't expand much. As you know rabbits are super thin skinned. I did shoot a rabbit with a 180grn Speer Dot Short Barrel. Instead of just punching a hole like the XTP the GDSB punched an entry hole and nearly removed the front leg on the exit side. I could have put a tennis ball in the exit side rib cage.

Bluechip 01-30-2014 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by duckman1911 (Post 662608)
The Ruger line of LC Pistols are great. Our daughter has the LCP380. For its small size its a really accurate pistol. I can regularly make hits on my 12x14" plates out to 30 yards with that tiny 380. As usual, Ruger has another line of quality, good shooting guns.

I love their pistols. My mom, wife and daughter all carry one that I bought for them.

dave 01-30-2014 10:48 PM

Glock 27 .40 at 4 o'clock during the summer. Sig P220 in the small of the back spring, fall and winter. Federal hydro shocks in both.

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dave 01-30-2014 10:50 PM

Hydra... auto correct...

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duckman1911 01-30-2014 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by dave (Post 662613)
Glock 27 .40 at 4 o'clock during the summer. Sig P220 in the small of the back spring, fall and winter. Federal hydro shocks in both.

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I always keep my gun behind my hip. Small of the back is great too. I like to be able to have the ability to turn my body and use it as a shield from my gun. Turn sideways and stiff arm someone while drawing your gun. He aint getting to my gun. When doing carry practice drills I practice turning my body, drawing and firing from the hip at arms length. It may sound stupid but at a gas station it just may be that close and fast. 2 rounds from the hip while withdrawing and bringing the weapon up to a traditional stance and preparing for additional shots.

dave 01-30-2014 11:07 PM

Probability says it should never happen. My bet is when probability is wrong, it will be that close and fast. Good points all around @duckman1911

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duckman1911 01-30-2014 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by dave (Post 662620)
Probability says it should never happen. My bet is when probability is wrong, it will be that close and fast. Good points all around @duckman1911

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My thoughts exactly Dave. If it was a perfect world we wouldn't need to carry a gun. If you're gona carry a gun you have to dedicate yourself to it. I tell people a gun is no different from a seat belt. You pray everyday that you wont need it but you better have it if you do need it. Carrying a gun and being willing to use it is a world of its own. One night it led me into the scariest and most focused situation of my life.

Matt G 01-30-2014 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by duckman1911 (Post 662618)
I always keep my gun behind my hip. Small of the back is great too. I like to be able to have the ability to turn my body and use it as a shield from my gun. Turn sideways and stiff arm someone while drawing your gun. He aint getting to my gun. When doing carry practice drills I practice turning my body, drawing and firing from the hip at arms length. It may sound stupid but at a gas station it just may be that close and fast. 2 rounds from the hip while withdrawing and bringing the weapon up to a traditional stance and preparing for additional shots.

A quicker and more concealed draw is one of the things I like the most about appendix carry. Your arms are already naturally around your core for quick access and there isn't the tell tale arm and shoulder sweeping back to draw as you would have with carrying in the hip position. I find your weapon is also better protected when in larger crowds when bumping into people may be an issue. I know I've had instances where I bump into somebody who would feel my gun on my hip and give me that awkward look. In the appendix position, your arms are a natural barrier..... Unless of course you are a habitual hugger. Lol!

dave 01-30-2014 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Matt G (Post 662627)
A quicker and more concealed draw is one of the things I like the most about appendix carry. Your arms are already naturally around your core for quick access and there isn't the tell tale arm and shoulder sweeping back to draw as you would have with carrying in the hip position. I find your weapon is also better protected when in larger crowds when bumping into people may be an issue. I know I've had instances where I bump into somebody who would feel my gun on my hip and give me that awkward look. In the appendix position, your arms are a natural barrier..... Unless of course you are a habitual hugger. Lol!

My gut gets in the way!

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duckman1911 01-30-2014 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Matt G (Post 662627)
A quicker and more concealed draw is one of the things I like the most about appendix carry. Your arms are already naturally around your core for quick access and there isn't the tell tale arm and shoulder sweeping back to draw as you would have with carrying in the hip position. I find your weapon is also better protected when in larger crowds when bumping into people may be an issue. I know I've had instances where I bump into somebody who would feel my gun on my hip and give me that awkward look. In the appendix position, your arms are a natural barrier..... Unless of course you are a habitual hugger. Lol!

I open carry so im used to the looks. I wasn't trying to knock your style and I apologize if it came across that way. Everyone has their own style that works for them. If it works for you the go with it. Im no firearms expert and don't claim to be. Im just an old country boy that shoots a lot. I trained under a guy that was(he retired 2 months ago) our city SWAT marksman, has been a firearms trainer for 20+ years, and also teaches our CCW course. He has also shot and killed two people. Oh he has beat my azz in almost every match we shot together. I may beat him on time but he can shoot snake eyes at 50 yards with a Smith and Wesson revolver.

Matt G 01-31-2014 06:55 AM

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Originally Posted by duckman1911 (Post 662632)
I open carry so im used to the looks. I wasn't trying to knock your style and I apologize if it came across that way. Everyone has their own style that works for them. If it works for you the go with it. Im no firearms expert and don't claim to be. Im just an old country boy that shoots a lot. I trained under a guy that was(he retired 2 months ago) our city SWAT marksman, has been a firearms trainer for 20+ years, and also teaches our CCW course. He has also shot and killed two people. Oh he has beat my azz in almost every match we shot together. I may beat him on time but he can shoot snake eyes at 50 yards with a Smith and Wesson revolver.

No offense taken. I'm just offering an alternative method and the reason I like it. A lot of people see carrying in the front part of your pants is for gang bangers only! Lol. And trust me, I'm far from any kind of expert. Guns just make me happy!

duckman1911 01-31-2014 07:43 AM

:rotfl:I just noticed that I misspelled STYLE in the title.lmao:rotfl:

Dogface 01-31-2014 09:40 AM

I carry my Ruger LCP.380 in a pocket holster in back strong side pocket. My Kahr 9 mm in the 4oclock position in a crossbreed holster or when I will be sitting for a long period of time I carry the Kahr in a ankle holster.

duckman1911 01-31-2014 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Dogface (Post 662680)
I carry my Ruger LCP.380 in a pocket holster in back strong side pocket. My Kahr 9 mm in the 4oclock position in a crossbreed holster or when I will be sitting for a long period of time I carry the Kahr in a ankle holster.

How do you like the Crossbreed holster? I have been contempating getting one. Had never heard og them until my wife saw them on Glenn Beck.

jchief 01-31-2014 11:00 AM

Waiting on my CC permit now. Have a LCR9. What holsters do you like and why?

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duckman1911 01-31-2014 12:53 PM

I have some Fobus kydex holsters I use for eveyday carry. Kydex aint as pretty as leather but its super tough and light. If you do happen to screw it up (not sure how that can be done) you're out 25 bucks instead of much more than that for leather. The only draw back is that kydex will wear on your guns finish at contact points. I tend to not worry much about the finish. My carry guns are tools.

Dogface 01-31-2014 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by duckman1911 (Post 662692)
How do you like the Crossbreed holster? I have been contempating getting one. Had never heard og them until my wife saw them on Glenn Beck.

Most comfortable inside waistband I have used. Having said that I gotta tell you If I am driving a lot or sitting in certain chairs its still not that comf to me. Others I know that have the same holster don't mind sitting and driving. Maybe I have too much "extra" around my waist.
It's a combination of leather and kydex. The leather touches your skin so its not too bad.

Matt G 01-31-2014 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by duckman1911 (Post 662692)
How do you like the Crossbreed holster? I have been contempating getting one. Had never heard og them until my wife saw them on Glenn Beck.

I'm wearing a Crossbreed knock off I bought off of eBay right now at work. That's sitting at a desk for between 8 - 10 hours and I forget I even have it on. Hands down the most comfortable holster I've ever had. I bought one for my old man's LC9 for his birthday and it's the same way. Comfortable as all get out!

duckman1911 01-31-2014 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Matt G (Post 662757)
I'm wearing a Crossbreed knock off I bought off of eBay right now at work. That's sitting at a desk for between 8 - 10 hours and I forget I even have it on. Hands down the most comfortable holster I've ever had. I bought one for my old man's LC9 for his birthday and it's the same way. Comfortable as all get out!

At work and on SC huh? Me too:rotfl:
Will have to check out those holsters and see what they got for a 1911 and a XD. Since I open carry I can do more as far as comfort. The only time its an issue is when im buckled in my truck seat. Probably need to start taking my gun out then. Mag well on my 1911 has done wore a hole in my seat cover.lol

Dogface 01-31-2014 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Matt G (Post 662757)
I'm wearing a Crossbreed knock off I bought off of eBay right now at work. That's sitting at a desk for between 8 - 10 hours and I forget I even have it on. Hands down the most comfortable holster I've ever had. I bought one for my old man's LC9 for his birthday and it's the same way. Comfortable as all get out!

Maybe I just need to wear it more and get used to it and "break it in" some. Everyone I talk to says exactly what you are saying. Probably just me.

Hopedale Hustler 01-31-2014 07:23 PM

Glock 21 in kydex holster at 4 o'clock and sometimes a sig nightmare in kydex at 4 o'clock


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Jojack 01-31-2014 07:40 PM

9mm xd subcompact in crossbreed. Summer time, j frame in front pocket.


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MathGeek 01-31-2014 07:53 PM

May I recommend that it may be unwise to give too much detail on one's preferred mode of carry on an internet forum.

If someone you do not know and trust is going to learn whether and how you carry, it best come as a life altering surprise to them!

I've had positive experiences with Galco leather holsters.

Vermillionaire 01-31-2014 08:01 PM

Preffered Carry Weapon and Stlye
 
Kahr Arms. They are the yellow mouth baits or riceland custom calls of conceal carry, or guns in general. Pair it with a crossbreed IWB holster and federal premium HST in any grain and you'll be set. Words of advice, glove oil will help break in the leather on your crossbreed, and when you google the holster make sure you search "crossbreed holsters" and not "cross breed"... Big surprise!

duckman1911 01-31-2014 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Vermillionaire (Post 662843)
Kahr Arms. They are the yellow mouth baits or riceland custom calls of conceal carry, or guns in general. Pair it with a crossbreed IWB holster and federal premium HST in any grain and you'll be set. Words of advice, glove oil will help break in the leather on your crossbreed, and when you google the holster make sure you search "crossbreed holsters" and not "cross breed"... Big surprise!

Kahr makes some amazing guns. My wife used to carry a Kahr 9mm. Now she carries a Kahr In .45acp. They both are fine shooting weapons. I love them Kahrs.

duckman1911 01-31-2014 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by MathGeek (Post 662841)
May I recommend that it may be unwise to give too much detail on one's preferred mode of carry on an internet forum.

If someone you do not know and trust is going to learn whether and how you carry, it best come as a life altering surprise to them!

I've had positive experiences with Galco leather holsters.

From now on I would like a copy of a photo ID, address, and a social security number would also be helpful with each additional post.
Sorry MG my smartazz side took over and I couldnt resist.:rotfl:
Slap me back bro. Its all good. God Bless bro

MathGeek 01-31-2014 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by duckman1911 (Post 662864)
Kahr makes some amazing guns. My wife used to carry a Kahr 9mm. Now she carries a Kahr In .45acp. They both are fine shooting weapons. I love them Kahrs.

I never understood the allure of Kahrs and Glocks.

Sigs, Berettas, and Kimbers make sense to me.

Shrink down compromises are always compromises.

Guns should be judged on how well one can shoot it, not how unnoticeable it is on the hip.

duckman1911 01-31-2014 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by MathGeek (Post 662867)
I never understood the allure of Kahrs and Glocks.

Sigs, Berettas, and Kimbers make sense to me.

Shrink down compromises are always compromises.

Guns should be judged on how well one can shoot it, not how unnoticeable it is on the hip.

On that we couldnt agree more MG. She likes to shoot my 1911 but she doesnt enjoy lugging it around. She shoots that Kahr 45 pretty darn good too. Any gun is better than no gun provided you're proficient with it. I like big guns with fat bullets. I have been wanting a commander sized 1911 for a while though. The price on a 1911 climbs fast when the barrel gets shorter.

Vermillionaire 01-31-2014 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by MathGeek (Post 662867)
I never understood the allure of Kahrs and Glocks.

Sigs, Berettas, and Kimbers make sense to me.

Shrink down compromises are always compromises.

Guns should be judged on how well one can shoot it, not how unnoticeable it is on the hip.

You are correct that it doesn't matter what gun you're shooting if you can't hit anything with it.
When you talk about concealment, size is everything. Kahr pistols are not a chopped down version of full sized guns like most others, all kahr pistols are built to be concealed. Also, Glock and Kahr are two of few pistols that are rated for +p+ rounds.

weedeater 01-31-2014 09:42 PM

Anyone have experience with the compact 1911 such at the Citadel? I want to get a .45 and was considering the Springfield XDS. 45 but also liked the Citadel compact 1911 single stack

1fastmerc 01-31-2014 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by weedeater (Post 662873)
Anyone have experience with the compact 1911 such at the Citadel? I want to get a .45 and was considering the Springfield XDS. 45 but also liked the Citadel compact 1911 single stack

You know with your mental history all you can carry is a rubber band gun. And that's only under strict supervision.

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duckman1911 01-31-2014 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Vermillionaire (Post 662872)
You are correct that it doesn't matter what gun you're shooting if you can't hit anything with it.
When you talk about concealment, size is everything. Kahr pistols are not a chopped down version of full sized guns like most others, all kahr pistols are built to be concealed. Also, Glock and Kahr are two of few pistols that are rated for +p+ rounds.

I like a big gun but I also love my wifes Kahr. I have carried it many times and never felt it wouldnt do the job if needed. They make some fine weapons.

duckman1911 01-31-2014 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by weedeater (Post 662873)
Anyone have experience with the compact 1911 such at the Citadel? I want to get a .45 and was considering the Springfield XDS. 45 but also liked the Citadel compact 1911 single stack

Never played with any of the sub compact 1911's. Commander size is the smallest I've shot. I want a commander size. To me the 1911 is the perfect weapon as far as handguns are concerned. Me personaly I dont like the idea of shortening the grip of a 1911 to make it sub compact. Just a personal preference for me.

MathGeek 01-31-2014 10:30 PM

I could never shoot the smaller or lighter guns as well as I could the Sig P229. Maybe it's all the practice I did back in the day, but it became sort of an extension of my hand. It points where I want it to point and makes holes where I want the holes to be. A lot of the steps that are conscious and mechanical with smaller guns are ingrained, unconscious, automatic. Some of the other med to full size guns, I can do very well with by conscious focus on the fundamentals, steady sight picture, gentle trigger squeeze, but it is slower.

But my groups open up much more with the small pistols, even with careful application of the fundamentals. And recoil recovery to regain the sight picture is tough (slow). I can do much better with a Sig P229 in .40 S&W or .357 Sig than a Sig P232 in .380 or a Glock 26 in 9mm. In 9mm, the Sig P229 is just awesome.

As I've gotten into my 40s and my eyesight just doesn't focus as well quickly in multiple planes any more, having a gun that just points where I want is even more an asset. Used to have a training game: point the gun without the sights, turn on a laser, see how close. I've never carried pistol with a laser, but it's a great training aid.

duckman1911 01-31-2014 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by MathGeek (Post 662902)
I could never shoot the smaller or lighter guns as well as I could the Sig P229. Maybe it's all the practice I did back in the day, but it became sort of an extension of my hand. It points where I want it to point and makes holes where I want the holes to be. A lot of the steps that are conscious and mechanical with smaller guns are ingrained, unconscious, automatic. Some of the other med to full size guns, I can do very well with by conscious focus on the fundamentals, steady sight picture, gentle trigger squeeze, but it is slower.

But my groups open up much more with the small pistols, even with careful application of the fundamentals. And recoil recovery to regain the sight picture is tough (slow). I can do much better with a Sig P229 in .40 S&W or .357 Sig than a Sig P232 in .380 or a Glock 26 in 9mm. In 9mm, the Sig P229 is just awesome.

As I've gotten into my 40s and my eyesight just doesn't focus as well quickly in multiple planes any more, having a gun that just points where I want is even more an asset. Used to have a training game: point the gun without the sights, turn on a laser, see how close. I've never carried pistol with a laser, but it's a great training aid.

I can see the training applications of a laser sight but do not like the idea of them for self defense. People are complacent and a laser sight makes it worse. Buy it, mount it, sight it, and forget it. Right? No need to practice anymore. Right? Two years later your door gets kicked in at 2 am you grab your lasered super gun and realize the batteries are dead. You havent shot your gun in two years because you didnt need to. That laser sight was supposed to take place of practice. Right?. Your gun and a good light and shoot at night with your light.Complacency will get you killed.

MathGeek 01-31-2014 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by duckman1911 (Post 662920)
I can see the training applications of a laser sight but do not like the idea of them for self defense. People are complacent and a laser sight makes it worse. Buy it, mount it, sight it, and forget it. Right? No need to practice anymore. Right? Two years later your door gets kicked in at 2 am you grab your lasered super gun and realize the batteries are dead. You havent shot your gun in two years because you didnt need to. That laser sight was supposed to take place of practice. Right?. Your gun and a good light and shoot at night with your light.Complacency will get you killed.

Agreed. We've owned several lasers over the years for different experiments, but they are toys. There are very few electronic devices that I like the thought of mounting on a firearm and having to trust when the chips are down. Had a Holosight once too. Great on a shotgun on a bright day shooting clay birds. But as a sight shooting real stuff, it lagged. Tried it on the crossbow and on the slug gun and killed a few deer with it, but I liked a Leupold scope much better. Things with the Holosight were tricky in low light. In bright light, you've got to turn it all the way up and you're burning battery fast.

DA COVE 02-09-2014 08:12 PM

Sig 1911 ultra compact .45. Pancake holster @ 4 o'clock.

Clafleur 02-11-2014 10:26 PM

I carry several at once but it's because of my job so depending on what I'm doing these are what I carry and how: S&W bodyguard 380 either inside the waistband or inside pocket holster. Glock 27 on an ankle holster or strong side blackhawk holster. Glock 22 strong side blackhawk holster, or sig P220 strong side holster. Always have 2 and depends on what I'm doing plus a couple long guns in the truck

Top Dawg 02-12-2014 09:40 AM

Just bought a Para ordnance 1911. Like the feel just haven't had the chance to shoot it yet.

BIG1LOST 03-05-2014 04:52 PM

For the outdoors I carry an OLD S&W .38/44 at the hip when on foot;horseback or otherwise mounted;chest carry,or as we call it back home in Montana,THE GRIZZLY POSITION;for obvious reasons!!!...for social/serious times when I may be in various situations ( car,elevator,etc. ) I go with a TOP QUALITY paddle holster...easily repositionable but still very secure... stuffed with a totally reliable P-35...the original WONDER 9 ,and Golddots,Hydro's etc.s

RickLafayette 10-21-2014 04:25 PM

Kimber Tactical Custom HD II, .45 ACP, El Paso Saddlery "Tortilla" (pancake) strong side

Goooh 10-21-2014 04:34 PM

Both hands and the reflexes of a needle nose gar.

#ComeGetYouSome

alphaman 10-21-2014 04:41 PM

I want to get a ruger LP9 and a pmr 30 to play with

mriguy 10-21-2014 04:56 PM

I want a Walther PPK, be like James Bond biotches!

Quick Draw

AubreyLaHaye458 10-21-2014 05:37 PM

I want a Dirty Harry .44 mag


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Dblbeard 10-27-2014 11:18 PM

Pistol
 
I carry a h&k 45! I like it because I shoot it weal and I'm very comfortable with it


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