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WOW..

Just heard on the news the saints don't plan to resign or released Will Smith, Vilma, Greer and one other player.. Freeing up about 17 million against the Cap...

All of these on a pretty depth-less defense..

Hopefully they looking to draft some awesome D players.

Roman Harper is on the cut list too! They making room to sign Jimmy!

Defensive free agents like Bennett from Seattle. Need room to sign jimmy too. All those guys needed to go except Greer IMO.
In draft we going
OT in first round


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This is awesome!!


They about to dump the D to keep one Player

LMAO

Idiots

They not dumb. Greer didn't play who year
Will S is getting old and Junior Gallete is 100x better

We had to dump vilma cuz he hates the gays and we drafting M. Sam

Harper is done.
Can't pay top dollar for diminishing skills.
All those guys been on a rapid decline except Jabari.


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Scoop up one good FA and draft well and it's game time


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Agree

I was kidding about Sam but id take him in a heart beat. Defensive player of year in Sec is nothing to shake a stick at.


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I think Saints need a gay player!! Fit right in with chocolate city

Like the bears did a few years ago when they signed J Peppers as a free agent (who has been a big bust with Chicago) and Jane Culter.....:rotfl:

Quack Quack Decoy... LMAO

greer I liked and was the best of the group leaving but he was always hurt (cant remember him playing a full year in a long time) and he was getting slow and being beat a good bit of the time so he needed to go even though he was the best of what we had which is pretty sad.

I too think they will give away the next years season to sign graham and then be left with a 3rd string defense for the next 2 or 3 years and go nowhere.

as good as graham is, the smart move would be to trade graham to a team of our choice for a first, second, and 3rd round picks while he is worth the most to another team before he starts to decline (which I think he is showing signs of already IMO). he no longer can get open if he is bumped at the line of scrimmage like he used to and teams know that.

if graham were gone they would have the money to bring in 2 or 3 top defensive players to rebuild a pathetic defense and get a few offensive linemen to protect brees before he gets killed back there. brees is getting old and lets face it he may only have 2 or 3 years left and you can already see his talent is not want it used to be so if they want another super bowl it has to be this year or next.

its a shame when the team cant score enough points because our defense never stops anyone or if brees is running for his life because they have no protection and receivers that cant get open

Saints way

100mill QB and about to have highest paid TE ever in NFL

LMAO

Saints over pay players because Brees likes em

Saints had a top 10 defense. The games they lost were because the offense didn't show up.

QB's are expensive. Jay Cutler, Matt Ryan, Joe Flacco, Eli Manning all make more than Brees. Unless you want Luke Mccown running the offense.

So why has the bears not done ch it since 1985????

Isn't cutler getting 100 and got out played by his back up last year.


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They had the number 4 def in the league last year. Those 2 of the 4 didn't play, Harper can't cover a turnip and Greer is 3? with a broken leg.

Mickey Loomis is one of the top GMs in the league he knows what he's doing.

As far as Graham...... last half of the year he had some amjor alligator arms and DBs were getting into his real easy. He's a beast at home but he hasn't done diddly squat on the road.

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All his biggest games were on the road


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We missed a burner WR that kept the field open IMO that along with no Carl nicks and bad O line kept us dinking and dunking. Stills is ok but his route running ain't great if Morgan wouldn't have been hurt it would have been better. We need a WR with some separation speed. Mickey Loomis is a beast we will be fine.


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You right, except for them 2 road games against Seattle and New England

They made a conscious effort to take jimmy away and get after Brees big time. We were robbed of that NE game. Gallete should have been making Brady eat grass but was held terribly. Oh well


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The O as a whole struggled on the road. Pass protection issues IMO.


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I agree... most of our offenses struggles came from the lack of pass protection all year

Yep plus J Peppers the DL guy they threw the Brinks truck at a few years ago that has been a bust.....plus the firing Lovie Smith (still owed 3 years) they could only afford a CFL coach.....l m f a o

Another thread full of W logic. It makes my chest hurt

Swamp, you nailed it. The D was really good this year and Graham was scared to get hit ever since the 49er game. Franchise Graham this year and see how he plays before you really pay him or trade him.

They definitely need another deep threat receiver, a real free safety, and another corner.

Bears have Cap Room


Saints dont!!

Saints have to free up all there D to keep Jimmy G... LMAO!!

When you have to start cutting guys to make room, your in a bind..


Saints should cut JG and could get 3 or 4 good players instead

Um-No.

Saints will have more cap room than you think and the Bears will still have Cutler. Sorry, Bear fans.

So Bruh, for not being a SAINTS fan you are very concerned about our SALARY CAP status. At least the Saints do not have to hire CFL coaches due to paying a coach they had to fire.....:rotfl: and J Pepper and Jane's contacts are worth about 150 million....:rotfl: talk about wasted $.....BEARS will not make the playoffs again this year...
BTW, every team has to cut some players every year.....what a dumb a z z comment....:work:

Five Players Under Contract the Chicago Bears Should Cut This Offseason

Up Against the Salary Cap, Front Office Faces Difficult Personnel Decisions

http://l.yimg.com/a/i/us/nws/p/ycn_icon.png By Billy Grayson January 16, 2014 11:24 AM


COMMENTARY | The Chicago Bears entered the 2014 offseason with 30 free agents on their roster, and now that the regular season has ended the front office will be forced to make a bevy of decisions regarding who they should bring back.
But the biggest issue may not center around who they would like to keep, but whether or not they are financially able to. Surely, Bears GM Phil Emery would like to bring back numerous veterans on defense such as Henry Melton, Corey Wootton and Charles Tillman and special teams contributors like Blake Costanzo, Devin Hester, and Sherrick McManis, but with so many holes to fill, he would only be able to do so at the right price.
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Fortunately, Chicago has several players on its roster whose salary cap costs outweigh the production they brought on the field. Cutting any or all of these players would create varying amounts of "dead money" against the salary cap, meaning that the Bears would be unable to use portions of their salary cap if they were cut.
But often times the advantages of cutting an underachieving, overpriced player outweighs the amount of dead money that will be used against the cap. Here are five such players the Bears should consider cutting to free up salary cap space they can use elsewhere:
Earl Bennett, WR: (2014 Salary Cap Hit: $2.35 million) Bennett carries a fairly hefty price for an underused third WR, but releasing him would create no dead money for the Bears were they to decide to let him go. With Alshon Jeffery, emerging as a superstar and Brandon Marshall hauling in a combined 189 receptions in 2013, the Bears don't need to overspend for his roster spot.
TE Martellus Bennett and RB Matt Forte combined for an additional 139 grabs, so that means Bennett, the former all-time SEC leader in receptions at Vanderbilt, ranked fifth on Chicago in catches with 32. Plus, the Bears have liked what they've seen out of the 7th-round draft pick Marquess Wilson, a much more cost-efficient third receiver in the Bears offense.
Michael Bush, RB: (2014 Salary Cap Hit: $3.85 million) Bush was initially brought in to be a goal-line and short-yardage back and pick up the tough yards between the tackles. But with Marc Trestman having cut his carries nearly in half in his first season calling plays (down to 63 in 2013 from 114 in 2012) the Bears simply don't need to pay nearly $4 million for a player that impacts that game on such a low number of plays throughout the season.
Cutting Bush would leave $2 million in dead money counting against the cap, but being able to free up $1.85 million could go a long way towards revamping the Bears defense. Using a mid-round pick or signing a veteran for cheap would be a better use of limited resources.
Julius Peppers, DE: (2014 Salary Cap Hit: $18.183 million) Once Jay Cutler re-signed with Chicago earlier this month to a contract that brought along much ridicule, the biggest decision Emery would face this offseason changed to Peppers' contract. There is no way the Bears, or any other organization, can justify paying Peppers, who will be 34 on January 18, $13.9 million next season after his production has declined in each year since he joined Chicago prior to the 2010 season.
The Bears exercised the option of shifting part of Peppers' contract to a signing bonus last season to create more cap space, something that is certainly a possibility this offseason as well. But the Bears would save nearly $10 million in cap space if they outright released Peppers (creating more than $8.3 million in dead money) and could still find a veteran defensive end that would serve as a very serviceable replacement for him, but at more than half the cost.
One thing is almost a guarantee, however: wherever he plays, Peppers won't be making almost $14 million in 2014.
Adam Podlesh, P: (2014 Salary Cap Hit: $1.825 million) After finishing 33rd in the NFL in yards/punt (40.6) and 29th in net average (37.9), it's safe to say the Bears will look to move on from the 7-year veteran. Releasing him would create just over $1 million in cap space for Chicago, and the Bears can easily find a more productive punter for much cheaper than Podlesh's cap hit.
The Bears recently signed Drew Butler, son of former Bears P Kevin Butler, to a reserve/future contract, and wouldn't do so without the intention of giving him an opportunity to win the job. The Bears would also be wise to keep their eyes on punters in the draft this May and using a late-round pick on one then.
Eric Weems, WR: (Salary Cap Hit: $1.6 million) At this stage in his roster status with Chicago, Weems has primarily been used as a special teams player after joining the team in 2012. He was initially brought in to help return kicks, but once Hester was turned into solely into a returner this season, Weems was relegated to the kick coverage teams.
His salary is simply too high for a player in his role for any team, let alone one that is up against the cap like Chicago. The Bears would create $1.1 million in cap space ($500,000 in dead money) if they released him, and could allocate that towards the draft or signing a replacement for Weems at roughly half the price.
Billy Grayson is a Yahoo contributor from Chicago and diehard Chicago sports follower. He is currently studying Broadcast Journalism at the University of Missouri in Columbia.



Peppers is making 18 plus MILLION a year....:bounce::rotfl:

Check out what NFL.com says about Brees

Damn so i guess they said cutler is a water boy

His back up is hands down better than him.


"Go ahead, share your opinion! I won't cry"

Yup

You are a Retard if you believe that

Why are we discussing the Bears? Whether or not the Saints made the right moves cutting those guys remains to be seen, but the Saints front office has proven to be able to put a pretty solid team on the field the last few years.

It's pretty easy none of those guys played really last year we had #4 defense.


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^^^^^ Exactly ^^^^^
We don't need them!!!

Check out what saints fans think about da bears!!Attachment 63886


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Lmao!!!!

U believe a lot worse about the saints!!! So what does that make you


"Go ahead, share your opinion! I won't cry"

it is worrysome to see the saints come out every year with a team that is filled with guys nobody will recognize as anything but average guys that seam to find a way to get the job done (most of the time) but aren't anything special. besides brees and graham there are no other players that stand out and I think graham does good only because brees doesn't have anyone else.

there is a lot to be said for going after talent instead of guys with name recognition but when they don't go after the big names and end up with mediocre results every year you wonder if the don't mind risking not winning as much in order to protect the bottom line. yes "on paper" we had a good defense but you would never know that while you are watching the games and every game we get off to a good start only to have the defense give up a big lead while the offense tries to run out the clock and it all too often gets down to the last play of the game to see who wins. I have grey hair high blood pressure and no fingernails because of them lol.

one thing is for sure, nobody with the saints is taking any advice from guys on the internet (thank goodness) so all we can do is ......


JUST WAIT TIL NEXT YEAR! :cool: