Realistic price for bay boats?
I saw an ad earlier for a beautiful bay boat. The sticker price on that boat made me do a double take. :eek:
This got me to thinking. What could possibly make a boat worth nearly 6 figures? Who buy's these boats? Is it just a mine is bigger and more expensive than yours thing? :confused: Then I wondered. What are realistic price figures for bay boats and what makes for the ideal fishing machine? Any thoughts? |
Some of the prices are insane! The upper end boats aren't any better in my opinion. Just a **** measuring contest basically. Boats catch more fisherman than fish anyways!
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Yep they are getting out of hand.....I can tell you one thing,most people including me thought dealers make alot of money on boat sales. The profit margins are terrible...the boat company's make the jack.
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I caught more fish out of beater boats than nice boats that's for sure.
17 Sabre Hull with a 115 Evinrude 16' Carolina Skiff with a 25 Tohatsu Once Upon a Time one Sportfishers and Bass Boat got waxed........... times have changed |
its just about the $$$$$
you can buy a $85,000 bass boat signed by some guy you see on tv or buy a $10,000 Cajun special and do more fishing and catch more fish from it because your not waxing and buffing that bass boat you put such a huge investment into that you don't want to get it dirty. there is very little that seperates the cheaper low end boats from the top end pricey ones and quality has little to do with it, its usually just some fancy electronics you can buy and install yourself for a while they tried to make every truck cost $50,000 but they weren't selling so they dropped the price to around $35,000 which is still too high but they found enough people willing to pay that so it stays high and they are always going to rip you off for as much money as some idiot is willing to pay. supply and demand breaks down in controlling costs when people keep buying overpriced stuff just because they "gotta have it" |
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Did you really just say quality has little to do with it? I would suggest doing some water tests on the different price ranges and make your assessment that way. |
Quality has pretty much everything to do with it.
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Let's be real tho them shearwaters are ridiculous. A triton , bluewave, blazer bay and a black jack will out ride it every time. Might not be as fast but way more dry.
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That's why I had to buy a used boat.
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Yeah. Shearwater, yellowfin are nice boats but do they catch more fish? I think I'll stick to my Blazer Bay. If I buy a new boat it'll probably a 24' Purebay or something along those lines. A Blackjack is at the top of my price range and unless they come out with a 24' I don't think I'll go there.
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After fishing out of a Yellowfin, my Bay Quest feels like riding on a plastic barrel. Is it worth the extra coin for the Yellowfin? I guess that's determined by your bank account.
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I think what it comes down to is minor details that each boat has different than the other. Maybe some manufacturers spent more money and time on a specific feature than others and vice-versa.
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No 24 is worth 100K. Paying for the name
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Yellowfin is making a killing, good for them, but I guarantee it doesn't cost anywhere near 100K for them to build one.
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I'll take my triton over a shearwater any day
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I think Haynie's are way over priced for the appearance of the boat too. They are a sweet riding boat though
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It's all about demand. If people wouldn't order yellowfins and haynies quicker than they can build them they wouldn't be so high.
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Realistic price for bay boats?
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It's not that much for the hull.... But, Have you seen the electronics and stereo systems in those boats? Oversized motors too. It all adds up. If I took my boat and slapped all the high dollar goodies on it, it wouldn't be hard to get the price way up there with a YF |
Realistic price for bay boats?
You guys talk like price of materials, labor, insurance, taxes, administrative costs, etc... Have not changed since 1950.
How many people own a business here and would agree that to produce higher quality products with higher quality materials and labor doesn't cost a penny extra, and you can just rape the public for 1000% profit margin like it is nothin??? None How many don't own a business, or aren't involved in the workings of a successful business, and are just spouting how the makers are greedy and overcharge???? Sounds like a bunch of liberal Occupiers that are mad they can't drop a hundo on a YF. |
I almost droped a $100,000 on 243CC everglades during the Gulf Coast boat show in Biloxi. I agree when you step into a qualtiy boat like an Everglades or YF you can instantly see and feel the deference in quality. I would also say this... I am glad I did not close the deal on that boat because I really do not need something like that but looking for something like the 22' SeaHunt.
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You get what you pay for. That has never changed
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Like I stated in previous posts, good for yellowfin, I would charge what they charge as well if I owned yellowfin. But I am definitely not "jealous i can't go drop a hundo on a yellowfin"
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Interesting conversation. I have to honestly say I've caught more fish and possibly had better times fishing out of cheaper boats. Not that I wouldn't love to own a Yellowfin but the problem I have is justifying the expense. I think of all of the other things I could do with that money. As far as the quality of the build and the fit and finish that is never at doubt. Those boats the Yellowfins especially are light years ahead of any production boat.
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Take what sh*t somewhere else? Don't like when someone doesn't agree with you? This thread is full of butt hurt. |
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You're right, and if you got it then spend it, cause you can't take it with you... |
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No difference in quality when compared to a Sea Pro, no additional features, so it should be the same price.
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Thats a seapro of the yacht category compared to the others yacths. lol
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Gooh seapro yacht. alphaman yellowfin yacht.
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The one I posted hangs off the side of your yellowfin yacht! |
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Yep. I love yellowfins. Just I'm too poor to get one. Spiral Out |
I'm not butt hurt at all, just can't see myself ever spending 100 K on a bay boat. And no one ever said yellowfins don't have better quality features than other boats. All i'm saying is it doesn't cost near 100K to build a yellowfin. I can go buy a Porsche 911 for the money some people are paying for these boats.
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it's in all the boats today.....bass, bay and off shore.......
I would argue that many many name brand boats are going to last the average Joe a lifetime........but who in the hell wants one boat for a lifetime? Not many boats are "bad" these days, but some are damn well better. It may very well not be construction, but primary design. The legendary Darris Allison has produced proprietry designs that will make a boat perform better and get better fuel milage. Should he give that away?? Hell no. On top of that, guys are lined up to buy these 100K boats......it's incredible. I had a conversation Saturday in Orange Beach with the guys selling Pursuit offshore hulls....... They are rarely EVER financed.........guys walk in and stroke the check...... there are differences.......do those differences help you catch more fish? Could be...later in the life of a hull, when hinges, wiring, lids and generally things start to fail........the "better" boat may still be on the water as opposed to in the shop. |
Some are forgetting that most of those who purchase the YF and high end boats don't have to worry about the chedda. $100,000 to them is like $30,000 to the rest of us, YF & SCB have 12 month waits which is great. People will almost always spend money they don't have on rec toys. Heck, Prodrive and Gator-Tail also have 6 month waiting list so we should line them up for our scorn while we are going that way.
Saying you could buy a 911 for YF money just means your priorities are different but its the same argument just with a car. I would get the SC 4, it drives like a dream. |
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A guy I know spent $70k on a 21ft Ranger bass boat with a 250 E-Tec a few weeks ago.
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I wouldn't have spent $10k with that motor hangin on the back 😧 |
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lol. It was goin fass fass the other day! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
Lots of high $ boats out there. The resale value on the top tier boats has been very good and hold a large % of what was originally paid.
I know a guy in Miss that gets a new YF every 18 mos and except for electronics and stereo upgrades, he recovers nearly all of his original price and plows it into his new boat. He keeps it in pristine shape. YF jacks price up significantly every year so that makes the used boats look like a 'deal'. They have about an 8 month order backlog, so I guess it works for them. I do remember catching tons of fish in the marsh with my brother from a 14x48 flat boat with a 50 Merc (the old 4 cylinder). We built a redwood slotted subfloor to keep it quiet. That little rig was a blast to run. |
If I was able to spend a lot of money on a bay boat it would be a custom built SCB bc if imma spend some money! NO ONE will beat me to my fishing hole! I wanna do 90mph on the way there... but bc I cant afford that.... id be happy with any bay boat in the range of 20-35k
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At the Louisiana Sportsman's show they had a new Gravois 25'ish. Asked the Rep and he said 90K. I didn't even see a live well in it. For that kind of money I would just buy an older contender.
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