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MathGeek 03-31-2014 12:20 AM

Policeman arrests firefighter rendering aid in Louisiana
 
http://www.infowars.com/louisiana-po...mergency-call/

Wow, just wow!

keakar 03-31-2014 07:22 AM

its such a travesty to have that happen, and all because the cop got his panties in a wad and wanted to exercise his authority over a non issue since the lane would still be blocked even if the guy did let that person die to go move the truck like the cop wanted him to.

Finfeatherfur 03-31-2014 08:10 AM

Somebody's gonna get it now!!! LOL

Clampy 03-31-2014 09:14 AM

Check out this awesome cop

http://deadspin.com/cop-in-riot-gear...ium=socialflow


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Jordan 03-31-2014 09:47 AM

Never ending battle. Was at a scene the other day and a cop wouldnt let me get a vin # off a vehicle for my report. THE DAMN VEHICLE was empty. There was no one in it. The person crashed it, then hauled a$$...

Matt G 03-31-2014 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Jordan (Post 676594)
Never ending battle. Was at a scene the other day and a cop wouldnt let me get a vin # off a vehicle for my report. THE DAMN VEHICLE was empty. There was no one in it. The person crashed it, then hauled a$$...

What was his reasoning? I'm sure it was a good one. :shaking:

duckman1911 03-31-2014 12:00 PM

Well naturally there will be no action taken against the cop. They have to protect the brotherhood. Its us against them as far as im concerned. I view every cop I dont know personally as a threat. Basically they are viewed as the enemy. I have never once in my 38 years had a cop help me in any way while on duty. They are a nuisance at best.

Sightwindow 03-31-2014 12:16 PM

It's so inspiring that a cop would find amusement with this. But not surprising...

"W" 03-31-2014 01:09 PM

Cop should of used his energy to move it himself, now I'm sure he will be fired and run for senate and become a senator

Nickt87 03-31-2014 01:29 PM

[QUOTE=duckman1911;676625]Well naturally there will be no action taken against the cop. They have to protect the brotherhood. Its us against them as far as im concerned. QUOTE]

The Parish of St. Tammany recently sent a man to prison for LIFE for possesing 2lbs of weed. The same judge sentenced a former "officer of the law" to 10 years for molestation/incest with a teen family member. *** is this world coming to?:eek:

rustyb 03-31-2014 01:56 PM

Theres a new breed of cop!

MathGeek 03-31-2014 03:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by duckman1911 (Post 676625)
Well naturally there will be no action taken against the cop. They have to protect the brotherhood. Its us against them as far as im concerned. I view every cop I dont know personally as a threat. Basically they are viewed as the enemy. I have never once in my 38 years had a cop help me in any way while on duty. They are a nuisance at best.

I've had mostly positive experiences with law enforcement in my life. There was the vice squad raid at the bar where I worked when I was 11. It cost me my job, but I quickly found a new job at a Mexican restaurant where I was treated well and was a much safer environment. I was still paid under the table, but the lady who ran the place ran a tight ship and it was a much safer place to work than a bar.

Most of my interactions with the law in high school and college were well deserved and yielded moderate warnings in cases where there were no evil intentions just at the wrong place at the wrong time. All the LEOs were professional and respectful. Throw in a few well-deserved tickets from respectful LEOs.

I knew a great game warden in Ohio who was by the book and busted a high ranking officer in a local department for hunting without permission (trespassing) on the property I farmed and some neighboring properties. He was by the book with the guys hunting the farm too (including me), but he also had great respect for the Constitution and rule of law and wasn't ever looking to exaggerate evidence.

I've interacted with game wardens and biologists in several states with always positive experiences. They do not fear guns, and they respectfully go about their business in a way that maintains a careful balance between privacy, Constitutional issues, and the conservationist motivations behind game laws. Been stopped a time or to by LDWF wardens and it was always positive. They did what they had to do and let me get back to fishing quickly.

I did have one slightly negative experience when stopped for speeding in Cameron. The deputy rightly stopped me, but then a corrections officer stopped to assist. Since I had declared I was carrying, the corrections officer overreacted a bit and insisted I exit the vehicle, put my hands on the hood, submit to the fully Terry search, etc. They took both my Sig P229's (one on each hip) and returned them at the end of the stop. All the other traffic stops while I was carrying have been content to instruct me to keep my hands away from the guns.

I have a lot of other positive experiences with only a couple of instances with 1st, 4th, or 14th amendment implications, and certainly never encountered anything that would suggest global distrust of law enforcement. I'm teaching my children to always respect law enforcement and comply with their directives while maintaining certain liberties to politely decline voluntary searches and politely decline to answer certain questions if they have privacy concerns.

CajunSteelsetter 03-31-2014 05:00 PM

There are a few perks to the military when handling unruly power hogs. An example: "excuse me squad leader (staff sergeant), but that sergeant over there from another company is hindering me and my team from progressing our mission and is being a general all around $&@!head." Just step back and enjoy the fireworks!

Clampy 03-31-2014 05:03 PM

[quote=Nickt87;676638]
Quote:

Originally Posted by duckman1911 (Post 676625)
Well naturally there will be no action taken against the cop. They have to protect the brotherhood. Its us against them as far as im concerned. QUOTE]

The Parish of St. Tammany recently sent a man to prison for LIFE for possesing 2lbs of weed. The same judge sentenced a former "officer of the law" to 10 years for molestation/incest with a teen family member. *** is this world coming to?:eek:


Well those are the laws that are in place. No mandatory minimum for rape but boy oh boy let us catch you with some drugs a couple times and your no good azz gets life.


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MathGeek 03-31-2014 05:28 PM

Risking life in prison for a couple lbs of pot seems to confirm the hypothesis that pot leads to poor decision making. Once the cost gets that high, sober minded, non-addicts would simply choose a path without so much risk.

mriguy 03-31-2014 05:44 PM

Here we go again

Clampy 03-31-2014 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by MathGeek (Post 676689)
Risking life in prison for a couple lbs of pot seems to confirm the hypothesis that pot leads to poor decision making. Once the cost gets that high, sober minded, non-addicts would simply choose a path without so much risk.


Yeah. You're right.

Attachment 65710


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Duck Butter 03-31-2014 06:25 PM

[quote=Nickt87;676638]
Quote:

Originally Posted by duckman1911 (Post 676625)
Well naturally there will be no action taken against the cop. They have to protect the brotherhood. Its us against them as far as im concerned. QUOTE]

The Parish of St. Tammany recently sent a man to prison for LIFE for possesing 2lbs of weed. The same judge sentenced a former "officer of the law" to 10 years for molestation/incest with a teen family member. *** is this world coming to?:eek:


Fo real? I need to see a link if you got it

Goooh 03-31-2014 06:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MathGeek (Post 676689)
Risking life in prison for a couple lbs of pot seems to confirm the hypothesis that pot leads to poor decision making. Once the cost gets that high, sober minded, non-addicts would simply choose a path without so much risk.




“Workers distracted by e-mail and phone calls suffer a fall in IQ more than twice that found in marijuana smokers.”

http://www.thenewatlantis.com/public...f-multitasking

southern151 03-31-2014 06:31 PM

[quote=Duck Butter;676697]
Quote:

Originally Posted by Nickt87 (Post 676638)


Fo real? I need to see a link if you got it

There's more than is being told, here. Yep, he got life. He was deemed a career criminal. In other words this was FAR from his first time being busted for narcotic distribution.

As for the sex offender, I have no idea. Being a cop and, a child molester should make his 10 year stay in prison essentially death row.:work:

MathGeek 03-31-2014 06:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Goooh (Post 676699)
“Workers distracted by e-mail and phone calls suffer a fall in IQ more than twice that found in marijuana smokers.”

http://www.thenewatlantis.com/public...f-multitasking

The assertion seems fishy on its face, because of how IQ is measured in standard tests, so I've conducted a thorough scholarly search for the original scholarly publication. The trouble is that even though the Rosen quotation has been widely cited in opinion pieces and blog type stuff, the underlying study is not available. It is not clear how this purported study was performed of if Rosen just made it up, because she did not cite a scholarly source (authors, journal, title of article).

This purported email and phone call induced IQ drop, is it long-term (like with marijuana use), or is it temporarily limited to the time when one is multitasking the emails and phone calls, etc.? Science is not science at all unless the methodology, data, and results are published. This one fails the smell test. But I bet the claims fool lots of pot heads.

Clampy 03-31-2014 06:48 PM

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/du-pont-he...7.html#16nGWlb

Too bad they didn't catch this dude with a joint. If only.


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Duck Butter 03-31-2014 06:48 PM

[quote=southern151;676701]
Quote:

Originally Posted by Duck Butter (Post 676697)
There's more than is being told, here. Yep, he got life. He was deemed a career criminal. In other words this was FAR from his first time being busted for narcotic distribution.

As for the sex offender, I have no idea. Being a cop and, a child molester should make his 10 year stay in prison essentially death row.:work:

dang, I was unaware of this. I figured that weed wasn't the main thing though

Montauk17 03-31-2014 06:49 PM

http://i.qkme.me/3sujob.jpg

Goooh 03-31-2014 06:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MathGeek (Post 676708)
The assertion seems fishy on its face, because of how IQ is measured in standard tests, so I've conducted a thorough scholarly search for the original scholarly publication. The trouble is that even though the Rosen quotation has been widely cited in opinion pieces and blog type stuff, the underlying study is not available. It is not clear how this purported study was performed of if Rosen just made it up, because she did not cite a scholarly source (authors, journal, title of article).



This purported email and phone call induced IQ drop, is it long-term (like with marijuana use), or is it temporarily limited to the time when one is multitasking the emails and phone calls, etc.? Science is not science at all unless the methodology, data, and results are published. This one fails the smell test. But I bet the claims fool lots of pot heads.


Just playing the game like you do.

So science is defined as the quoting of scientists?

Clampy 03-31-2014 06:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MathGeek (Post 676708)
The assertion seems fishy on its face, because of how IQ is measured in standard tests, so I've conducted a thorough scholarly search for the original scholarly publication. The trouble is that even though the Rosen quotation has been widely cited in opinion pieces and blog type stuff, the underlying study is not available. It is not clear how this purported study was performed of if Rosen just made it up, because she did not cite a scholarly source (authors, journal, title of article).



This purported email and phone call induced IQ drop, is it long-term (like with marijuana use), or is it temporarily limited to the time when one is multitasking the emails and phone calls, etc.? Science is not science at all unless the methodology, data, and results are published. This one fails the smell test. But I bet the claims fool lots of pot heads.


What's sad is do to his squareness all his cool colleagues who burn never let him know so he never met a person who he looked up to who was a toker so his perception is a little off.


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MathGeek 03-31-2014 08:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Goooh (Post 676713)
Just playing the game like you do.

So science is defined as the quoting of scientists?

Science is publishing a full methodology along with the data so that experiments can be properly interpreted verified by independent sources.

You posted nothing but an anonymous quote out of context. Meaningless.

Matt G 03-31-2014 08:59 PM

The real "drug" that is affecting people's IQ is Facebook. Ban that sheet! I see people with MBA's and CPA licenses who sound like their straight out of that stupid movie "Clueless" when it comes to Facebook.

MathGeek 03-31-2014 09:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt G (Post 676780)
The real "drug" that is affecting people's IQ is Facebook. Ban that sheet! I see people with MBA's and CPA licenses who sound like their straight out of that stupid movie "Clueless" when it comes to Facebook.

At USAFA, we had a data analysis problem in the math class presenting data for IQ vs. weekly hours on Facebook.

southern151 03-31-2014 09:02 PM

[quote=Duck Butter;676710]
Quote:

Originally Posted by southern151 (Post 676701)

dang, I was unaware of this. I figured that weed wasn't the main thing though

No, weed was likely the only thing he distributed that I wouldn't have a problem with. If my memory serves me right(:confused:), he'd been away for multiple kilos of cocaine prior. I looked for links but, cannot find them. I remember hearing of him on the news last year or, in '12 though. He wasn't the "innocent herb dealer."

bgizzle 03-31-2014 09:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MathGeek (Post 676773)
Science is publishing a full methodology along with the data so that experiments can be properly interpreted verified by independent sources.

You posted nothing but an anonymous quote out of context. Meaningless.

To you


"Go ahead, share your opinion! I won't cry"

Goooh 03-31-2014 09:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MathGeek (Post 676773)
Science is publishing a full methodology along with the data so that experiments can be properly interpreted verified by independent sources.



You posted nothing but an anonymous quote out of context. Meaningless.


Exactly.

Just like everything you post about cannabis. You love you some anecdotes

OnePunchRex 03-31-2014 09:56 PM

Mathgeek, S T F U, you just look stupid.

MathGeek 03-31-2014 10:28 PM

How's the saying go?

When you have the facts, argue the facts.

When you have the law, argue the law.

When you have neither, attack your opponent.

duckman1911 03-31-2014 10:44 PM

[quote=southern151;676701]
Quote:

Originally Posted by Duck Butter (Post 676697)
There's more than is being told, here. Yep, he got life. He was deemed a career criminal. In other words this was FAR from his first time being busted for narcotic distribution.

As for the sex offender, I have no idea. Being a cop and, a child molester should make his 10 year stay in prison essentially death row.:work:

As far as your last sentence. WE CAN ONLY HOPE.

DannyI 03-31-2014 10:50 PM

True dat Geek, only true acceptable methodology, approved calibrated instrumentation that meets approved SQC criteria, is acceptable data, all other is considered nonsense whether it's in petroleum, health & sciences, etc.

OnePunchRex 04-01-2014 07:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MathGeek (Post 676828)
How's the saying go?

When you have the facts, argue the facts.

When you have the law, argue the law.

When you have neither, attack your opponent.

Dude, you eat gafftop, not attacking you - just stating the obvious. You're not my opponent, you are too much of a mental midget to rise to that status.

Nickt87 04-01-2014 08:40 AM

[quote=southern151;676701]
Quote:

Originally Posted by Duck Butter (Post 676697)
There's more than is being told, here. Yep, he got life. He was deemed a career criminal. In other words this was FAR from his first time being busted for narcotic distribution.

As for the sex offender, I have no idea. Being a cop and, a child molester should make his 10 year stay in prison essentially death row.:work:

Yea, he was a repeat offender. And no I don't neccesarily disagree with putting repeaters away for life, but I do disagree with putting a guy with a couple grocery bags of weed away for life and then letting your ******cking buddy off the hook and giving him 10 years for raping and molesting his neice.

Clampy 04-01-2014 09:04 AM

The system is awesome.

Get popped once for drugs.
Goes on record
Can't get a job cuz you are a convicted druggie

Society says to rehabilitate but you can't get a job now so what are they supposed to do I guess go back to what they were doing and pray not to get caught.
The system perpetuates itself and keeps nice nonviolent offenders behind bars for prison labor. I mean who would you want cleaning up roads and stuff like that the inmates do. Murders or Johnny that got caught with dime bag ?


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Duck Butter 04-01-2014 09:12 AM

[quote=Nickt87;676871]
Quote:

Originally Posted by southern151 (Post 676701)

Yea, he was a repeat offender. And no I don't neccesarily disagree with putting repeaters away for life, but I do disagree with putting a guy with a couple grocery bags of weed away for life and then letting your ******cking buddy off the hook and giving him 10 years for raping and molesting his neice.


for the record, that was southern that said this I got tangled up in this quote somehow but I agree

MathGeek 04-01-2014 09:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Clampy (Post 676877)
The system is awesome.

Get popped once for drugs.
Goes on record
Can't get a job cuz you are a convicted druggie

Society says to rehabilitate but you can't get a job now so what are they supposed to do I guess go back to what they were doing and pray not to get caught.

Had a close family member get a drug dealing conviction. Employment was not a big problem for a hard working individual presenting a flawless appearance, always on time, great work record, and willing to pee in a cup. Having parole and probation officers assure employers that the job candidate is clean and has been in perfect compliance with parole and probation conditions goes a long way. Having former employers describe a tremendous work ethic goes a long way.

Employers reasonably assume drug offenders tend to be less motivated and less likely to follow company rules than non-offenders. A job candidate with a drug history has a higher burden of proof that they are different. In addition to the above considerations, another good way to put a single drug offense in the past is some renewed training or education. Some glowing trainer/instructor recommendations goes a long way too.

Clampy 04-01-2014 09:34 AM

Anecdotal and he's white


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MathGeek 04-01-2014 10:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Clampy (Post 676886)
Anecdotal and he's white


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Hispanic. And one counter example is sufficient to disprove your completely general claim that one drug conviction shuts down employment.

Clampy 04-01-2014 11:21 AM

Not shuts it down but makes it hard. Science disproves just about everything you say regarding drugs.


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OnePunchRex 04-03-2014 07:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MathGeek (Post 676900)
Hispanic. And one counter example is sufficient to disprove your completely general claim that one drug conviction shuts down employment.

So is you example mowing grass or building houses for a living?

Jcredeur 04-03-2014 08:01 PM

Back to the original subject. I'm seeing poor judgement on both sides here. From what I read, they were on an EMS run, now I'm sure the police officer could have handled it better but why block a road for a Medical?

We have a good working relationship with our PD here in Lafayette but it takes both sides working together and a little bit of common sense!


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MathGeek 04-03-2014 09:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnePunchRex (Post 677672)
So is you example mowing grass or building houses for a living?

My example got a job in the credit department of a major department store. Worked hard, moved up into management, made good money last I heard.


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