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"W" 05-12-2014 08:43 AM

Sasol
 
Anybody work for Sasol on here? I was offered a job via email from a guy who use to work offshore with me years ago.

the job is :Operations Engineer: Steam and Pipelines

Anyone know what this is?

weedeater 05-12-2014 08:49 AM

I would definitely look into it.... lots of people trying to get jobs there

all star rod 05-12-2014 09:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by "W" (Post 688907)
Anybody work for Sasol on here? I was offered a job via email from a guy who use to work offshore with me years ago.

the job is :Operations Engineer: Steam and Pipelines

Anyone know what this is?

Lol...how can you have a title of "ops engineer" when first off you do not have an BS in engineering and to top it off you have a GED. You should be ashamed of yourself....engineer:rotfl:....:work:

I highly doubt Sasol is giving out engineering job titles to people without an engineering degree.

MathGeek 05-12-2014 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by all star rod (Post 688925)
Lol...how can you have a title of "ops engineer" when first off you do not have an BS in engineering and to top it off you have a GED. You should be ashamed of yourself....engineer:rotfl:....:work:

I wouldn't get all high and mighty. There's nothing wrong with a GED.

Each company sets their own educational requirements for engineering jobs. A lot of engineering jobs are held by competent professionals without engineering degrees. Shhhhh. Don't tell Obama, or the feds will make a bunch of new rules. Shouldn't a company have the right to hire whomever they want for a position?

"W" 05-12-2014 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by all star rod (Post 688925)
Lol...how can you have a title of "ops engineer" when first off you do not have an BS in engineering and to top it off you have a GED. You should be ashamed of yourself....engineer:rotfl:....:work:

I must have the baddest GED ever because I was offered this job with zero plant experience lmao
Just a resume lmao !!

Must be those UH classes I guess !!

"W" 05-12-2014 09:10 AM

You have to forgive poor Rene ASR

Jealousy is a thing and Ol Rene has a bad case


I guess i just make this up for no reason at all?

T-TOP 05-12-2014 09:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by "W" (Post 688907)
Anybody work for Sasol on here? I was offered a job via email from a guy who use to work offshore with me years ago.

the job is :Operations Engineer: Steam and Pipelines

Anyone know what this is?

Is it a shift job or straight days?

all star rod 05-12-2014 09:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MathGeek (Post 688931)
I wouldn't get all high and mighty. There's nothing wrong with a GED.

Each company sets their own educational requirements for engineering jobs. A lot of engineering jobs are held by competent professionals without engineering degrees. Shhhhh. Don't tell Obama, or the feds will make a bunch of new rules. Shouldn't a company have the right to hire whomever they want for a position?

Never said there was but I have never heard of
someone hired with an engineer title without having a degree in the college of engineering. I have worked in the down stream and up stream side of the buisness since I graduated in 1993....and yes I finshed in the college of engineering.

"W" 05-12-2014 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by T-TOP (Post 688935)
Is it a shift job or straight days?

Think it's shift work , it sounds like an operator job

Not sure what steam and pipeline means never been in a plant but have 15 years experience in oil and gas pipeline

all star rod 05-12-2014 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by "W" (Post 688934)
You have to forgive poor Rene ASR

Jealousy is a thing and Ol Rene has a bad case


I guess i just make this up for no reason at all?

No I just think it is a disgrace to the engineering profession to give someone a job title without having a BS in engineering.

Wow only "YOU" can take a few hours from u of h and be classified as an engineer....lol....dang you good I must admit...:cool::rolleyes:

But yes Sasol is still planning a big expansion project (company I work for is quoting stuff). But the GtoL plan has been cancelled from what I hear.

Will"E"Fish 05-12-2014 09:16 AM

One thing to consider @sum part of every 24 hour's u will be sleepn in your bed on the day's u are workn.

"W" 05-12-2014 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by all star rod (Post 688941)
No I just think it is a disgrace to the engineering profession to give someone a job title without having a BS in engineering.

Wow only "YOU" can take a few hours from u of h and be classified as an engineer....lol....dang you good I must admit...:cool::rolleyes:

Few hours?? Lmao dude I took 2 years online courses and then spent a week over there

Yea few hrs

hewes 05-12-2014 09:18 AM

Don't forget thirty plus years of bull spit.

simplepeddler 05-12-2014 09:20 AM

Sasol is a gas to liquids plant......they have an operating facility in Usbeckastan (sp).

it is only one of two in the world currently operating.
Shell has the other in Quatar.

Shell is considering one in the US now.

On the surface it would seem the only threat to their success is the price of Natural Gas......which should be low for years to come in this area considering the shale plays.....

Might be a good play for you W

"W" 05-12-2014 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Will"E"Fish (Post 688944)
One thing to consider @sum part of every 24 hour's u will be sleepn in your bed on the day's u are workn.

The only reason I even kind of interested is because it's on land and still have same time off with good benefits

but I only have 15 years left to retire with my company now so just curious what kind of place Sasol is and if it's worth the risk of switching jobs

But I'm 100% happy where I'm at now plus I have almost a full time guide business on days off

T-TOP 05-12-2014 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by "W" (Post 688939)
Think it's shift work , it sounds like an operator job

Not sure what steam and pipeline means never been in a plant but have 15 years experience in oil and gas pipeline

Sounds like an operations job, at their powerhouse. It would also include all the utlity lines running to all units, which may be why they throw the pipeline phrase in there(possibly). Working off shore on operating rigs for 15 yrs would make someone a candidate for that job i would think.
Also companies title lots of things as engineer doesn't mean it requires a eng degree.

all star rod 05-12-2014 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by "W" (Post 688945)
Few hours?? Lmao dude I took 2 years online courses and then spent a week over there

Yea few hrs

So do you have a BS Degree?? So it seems by your thinking / comment I guess if a college grad is x amount of hours short from their degree they can now just claim that they are a college graduate...lol

Bubble gums please take not that a few college hours does not mean you have a degree.

all star rod 05-12-2014 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by simplepeddler (Post 688950)
Sasol is a gas to liquids plant......they have an operating facility in Usbeckastan (sp).

it is only one of two in the world currently operating.
Shell has the other in Quatar.

Shell is considering one in the US now.

On the surface it would seem the only threat to their success is the price of Natural Gas......which should be low for years to come in this area considering the shale plays.....

Might be a good play for you W

Shell cancelled their GtoL project that they were looking at here..:cry:

Top Dawg 05-12-2014 09:26 AM

Sasol takes very good care of their employees. I know that much.

"W" 05-12-2014 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by T-TOP (Post 688953)
Sounds like an operations job, at their powerhouse. It would also include all the utlity lines running to all units, which may be why they throw the pipeline phrase in there(possibly). Working off shore on operating rigs for 15 yrs would make someone a candidate for that job i would think.
Also companies title lots of things as engineer doesn't mean it requires a eng degree.

Roger that, ...

cgoods17 05-12-2014 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by all star rod (Post 688957)
So do you have a BS Degree?? So it seems by your thinking / comment I guess if a college grad is x amount of hours short from their degree they can now just claim that they are a college graduate...lol

Bubble gums please take not that a few college hours does not mean you have a degree.



this guy must love you W....

Jealousy is shown in full force right now.

simplepeddler 05-12-2014 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by all star rod (Post 688958)
Shell cancelled their GtoL project...:cry:

they tabled their project......

current tradesman needs are going to be in the 10's of thousands in the next 36 months......Shell wants to build their facility when the demand starts to come down........

paying 30% more for labor on a 22 BILLION dollar project can and would have some negative affects on the profitability of the project....

There still pursuing FEED on the job....
but it will be a few years from now

T-TOP 05-12-2014 09:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by simplepeddler (Post 688967)
they tabled their project......

current tradesman needs are going to be in the 10's of thousands in the next 36 months......Shell wants to build their facility when the demand starts to come down........

paying 30% more for labor on a 22 BILLION dollar project can and would have some negative affects on the profitability of the project....

There still pursuing FEED on the job....
but it will be a few years from now

The needs will be crazy. There are projects now in LC to build facilities to house the people here for the work. "man camp" type places with transportation to and from work.

"W" 05-12-2014 09:38 AM

Where is Shell wanting to build this plant?

all star rod 05-12-2014 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by cgoods17 (Post 688966)
this guy must love you W....

Jealousy is shown in full force right now.

Lol....cool lets just give out titles without having certain degrees.

I guess I can call myself a DR now...lol

all star rod 05-12-2014 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by "W" (Post 688972)
Where is Shell wanting to build this plant?

Geismar...

weedeater 05-12-2014 09:45 AM

There's a steam job and water job listing

BassYakR 05-12-2014 09:49 AM

W Sasol takes care of their operators.... id look into it for sure.... I left Sasol bc they do not take care of their inspectors.... Operators have it made tho.

all star rod 05-12-2014 09:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by simplepeddler (Post 688967)
they tabled their project......

current tradesman needs are going to be in the 10's of thousands in the next 36 months......Shell wants to build their facility when the demand starts to come down........

paying 30% more for labor on a 22 BILLION dollar project can and would have some negative affects on the profitability of the project....

There still pursuing FEED on the job....
but it will be a few years from now

I hope to it comes back to life....Company I work for, we have a technology alliance agreement with Shell and it does not seem like it will happen.

NEW YORK, Dec 5 (Reuters) - Royal Dutch Shell said on Thursday it has canceled a proposed gas-to-liquids (GTL) plant in Louisiana less than two years after the plan surfaced as costs rose and the company reins in spending. The project, which would have converted natural gas to diesel, jet fuel and other refined products, was expected to cost more than $20 billion, a Shell spokeswoman said, up from the minimum $12.5 billion price tag estimated in September. Converting natural gas to diesel looked like an attractive option last year when record high production pushed natural gas prices to decade lows. Expected increases in natural gas demand for power generation and for export overseas has since helped bolster prices. Shell said it was now unclear if such a project, which has proved a success in other parts of the world, would be feasible in North America. Shell already operates the Bintulu GTL plant in Malaysia, which opened in 1993, and the Pearl plant in Qatar, the largest one of its kind, which started full operations in 2012. "Despite the ample supplies of natural gas in the area, the company has taken the decision that GTL is not a viable option for Shell in North America at this time," Shell said in a statement. A glut of natural gas supplies in North America widened the gap between oil and gas prices last year, prompting the first serious look at GTL technology in the United States. South African energy firm Sasol is building a 96,000 barrel-per-day GTL plant in Westlake, Louisiana, which is expected to cost $11 billion-$14 billion. But the price tag for its 140,000-barrel-per-day Louisiana project proved too high for Shell, which is slowing spending under its incoming chief executive Ben van Beurden. Shell recently canceled the $10 billion Arrow LNG project in Australia, potentially in favor of a rival project. Last year, U.S. natural gas prices fell below $2 per million British thermal units, but they have since rebounded to above $4. Gasoline prices, meanwhile, are expected to fall three percent next year, according to the Energy Information Administration. "The trend seems to be convergent in that gasoline demand growth is not as strong...and natural gas prices will likely not stay low forever," said Anthony Yuen, analyst at Citigroup in New York. "It is not that [natural gas prices and gasoline prices] will converge, but they will come in somewhat." -

Cripley 05-12-2014 10:22 AM

Great place to work I worked there as a contractor Bobbynofish wife works there I would jump on that one

Reggoh 05-12-2014 10:27 AM

Jeremy... all of the plants use steam for various reasons. Steam is usually generated at the powerhouse to drive a steam turbine. There is a large pipeline network in all of the plants that supply different types of steam as required within the facility. (typically characterized by pressure, 90lb steam, 250lb steam, etc).

Sounds to me like an operations job that involves most if not all units within the facility. You would probably get to interact with several units within the facility if you are a steam operator. This could be a great opportunity to get your foot in an open door.

Seems to me most operations jobs are about learning the processes and units. As you master each unit, you can move up the ladder. People that have been successful in operations in multiple units usually get those area supervisor jobs and eventually move up into upper management.

cgoods17 05-12-2014 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by all star rod (Post 688975)
Lol....cool lets just give out titles without having certain degrees.

I guess I can call myself a DR now...lol


engineer- a person who designs, builds, or maintains engines, machines, or public works

nothing about that says anything about having a degree.

there are "field engineers" out here working for contractor at new casino that are basically assistant project managers, do they have an engineering degree? no

all star rod 05-12-2014 11:37 AM

All I know is this, I have worked for two medium sized public traded companies (still with one of them about to make 14 years) and they never gave out a job title of "Engineer" unless you have an engineering degree from an accredited college. Now I have seen where family owned companies throw out all these bogus job title names because most do not have specific corporate guidelines on pay structure and job titles and such. They own the buisness so they do what they want.

ok bruh is an engineer....happy now.

kb7722 05-12-2014 11:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by all star rod (Post 688957)
So do you have a BS Degree?? So it seems by your thinking / comment I guess if a college grad is x amount of hours short from their degree they can now just claim that they are a college graduate...lol

Bubble gums please take not that a few college hours does not mean you have a degree.


Falling star,

Do you have some kind of burr up your @ss? I have an MS in engineering, and I am not running around acting like the engineering police. Get over yourself and your BS.

Duck Butter 05-12-2014 11:40 AM

buddy is a mud engineer, he ain't graduate none of them colleges either

all star rod 05-12-2014 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by kb7722 (Post 689025)
Falling star,

Do you have some kind of burr up your @ss? I have an MS in engineering, and I am not running around acting like the engineering police. Get over yourself and your BS.

And I have a phD in engineering...how about that....you see how easy it is.

ok lets just call ourselves what ever job title we want...sounds good to me.

"W" 05-12-2014 11:50 AM

We have hands that work offshore on the boat who never made it past 3rd grade and they are called engineers

LMAO

all star rod 05-12-2014 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by "W" (Post 689033)
We have hands that work offshore on the boat who never made it past 3rd grade and they are called engineers

LMAO

I know bruh....see my job titles under my name now..lol

MathGeek 05-12-2014 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by all star rod (Post 689023)
All I know is this, I have worked for two medium sized public traded companies (still with one of them about to make 14 years) and they never gave out a job title of "Engineer" unless you have an engineering degree from an accredited college. Now I have seen where family owned companies throw out all these bogus job title names because most do not have specific corporate guidelines on pay structure and job titles and such. They own the buisness so they do what they want.

ok bruh is an engineer....happy now.

I worked at a top ten (by market cap) publicly traded company for a number of years. My job title always included the word engineer: Senior Engineer, Principal Engineer, Engineer IV, etc. This was a job earning six figures, not some "bogus job title."

Yet, I've never possessed an engineering degree, and none of my coursework in college had "engineering" in the name or was taught by an engineering department (except for a single programming class, PASCAL).

A degree from an accredited engineering program is only one possible way to demonstrate a minimal level of competence to a potential employer. There are others.

One key factor is that Louisiana is not producing nearly enough graduates from "accredited engineering programs." Many jobs with a firm requirement for a Bachelors degree in engineering go unfilled for a loooooong time. Yet the jobs still need to be done. Wise employers often fill positions with greater flexibility regarding how job competencies are established.

T-TOP 05-12-2014 11:57 AM

I just watched a train pass, think it had an engineer driving it....

all star rod 05-12-2014 11:59 AM

Like I said bruh is an engineer. Everyone should be happy now.

mriguy 05-12-2014 12:03 PM

Custodial Engineering

Go be a di€k in the sports bar, this isn't the place

meaux fishing 05-12-2014 12:04 PM

Im an agricultural engineer then? sweet!!

all star rod 05-12-2014 12:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mriguy (Post 689048)
Custodial Engineering

Go be a di€k in the sports bar, this isn't the place

"Sports bar engineer" = asr....:rotfl:

BIG RED 1983 05-12-2014 01:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Duck Butter (Post 689027)
buddy is a mud engineer, he ain't graduate none of them colleges either

they are now called drilling fluid technicians the over seas guys that actually had and engineering degree were up set so they pulled the mud engineer name and started calling them drilling fluids technicians

all star rod 05-12-2014 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by BIG RED 1983 (Post 689088)
they are now called drilling fluid technicians the over seas guys that actually had and engineering degree were up set so they pulled the mud engineer name and started calling them drilling fluids technicians

I do not blame them for being upset...props to that company changing the job titles.

Kind of like an arena league football player saying he plays professional football....:work:

getonfish 05-12-2014 01:35 PM

noun
noun: engineer; plural noun: engineers
1.
a person who designs, builds, or maintains engines, machines, or public works.
synonyms:originator, deviser, designer, ar****ect, inventor, developer, creator; More

noodle creek 05-12-2014 01:47 PM

The job title of an engineer should include an engineering degree, PE, and FE. With out it, it is only a job title, and I highly doubt that these people can legally sign off on jobs the same as an engineer with an actual education.

I know mechanics that work on crew boats that call themselves "engineers," but they laugh about it and understand that they aren't really an engineer.

Throwing the word "engineer" into a job title does not make you into an engineer.

Paulox86 05-12-2014 01:47 PM

Plenty of engineers with huge chips on their shoulders and also plenty that are good as gold. Just apply and interview. Ask questions and if you do not like the job, don't take it.

getonfish 05-12-2014 01:52 PM

Its just a word, who cares. If you are a degreed engineer in a field of study then you know what you are and your pay will show that accordingly.

Im pretty sure the railroad had engineers long before colleges adopted the word.


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