Canyon Bay Boats
Been looking for a new boat for a while now. Done lots of reading on other sites and it seems that a Canyon Bay is the name that pops up the most when your looking for a shallow draft bay boat with offshore capabilities. I found one I can test out but its down in Corpus. I am pretty sure I'm gonna like it but I was just wondering if anyone from around here has seen or been in one? This is what I am looking at
http://canyonbayboats.com/?page_id=352 Anyone see any down side to are a reason they aren't too popular in Louisiana? Any opinion would be appreciated. Thanks |
It looks like a nice boat. I wish manufacturers were more consistent with the model numbers they use. When I see something called a 2470 I expect I to be a full if not something over 24' in length. In this case the boat is not even 23 1/2 ' in length.
I also question their draft number. I am not sure which is more correct but look at this boat compared to a Pure Bay 2400. The Pure Bay specs say that it is 4" wider, a foot longer, and weighs 100# less. The Pure Bay and Canyon both say draft is 12". While hull design plays a role in draft for sure it is hard for me to believe that the Canyon can displace the same amount of water compared to the Pure Bay when it weighs more AND is narrower and shorter. The engineer in me says something aint right. More weight distributed over a smaller surface area means more draft. Again not saying one is correct compared to the other just that on the surface they seem to have the same draft. Practically that seems wrong in this case. And it is dang rare for a boat builder to overestimate their draft! |
I had a Canyon Bay boat a few years ago, the company went kinda belly up in 2009 and the molds where sold. I had the 21 footer they made flats/bay style boat,a real high quality boat with a nice fit and finish and superior wiring that would rival a Yellowfin. Not real sure about the guys building the boat now, I do know they have built very few boats since the sell of the molds. A friend of mine in Florida said the last few years they have only built pre sold boats.
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Thanks for the feedback. I've seen more than owner say the actual draft is 13". Still not bad with a deadrise of 18.
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I found a 2009 demo in Texas. I am going to check it out next week. Thanks.
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Is it the one from Ron Hoover Marine?, if so it's a blue and white hull with a ETEC on the back. That boat was built by the original owners of Canyon Bay, not the present day owners. Marque that boat is the same exact hull I had just a few feet longer, make sure you ride that boat in a good chop. My boat did well in the marsh, but open water the boat did not do well at all with keeping you dry and is the reason I sold it. Not telling you not to get the boat just giving you and my honest opinion of the hull.
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That's it. Thanks for the heads up I'm gonna make sure to do that. I appreciate the heads up.
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You may want to post a thread on TheHullTruth...
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They have a used one on THT. Nice looking boat
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Drove to Rockport and looked at the boat. Got to test drive it and was super impressed with the boat and the way it handled. Took it out in some chop and it was everything I expected the boat to be. However there were some problems. The pictures on the internet were at least 4 years old. The boats finish was faded. It also had a custom made aluminum fly fishing pedestal bolted on the front which was in none of the pictures that were on the internet. There was some cosmetic scrapes and scratches on the bottom of the boat and a few other things that you would not expect to see from a boat that had as little use as what the dealer was saying it had. I decided to pass although I loved the boat. If I am going to spend that much money on a used boat it better be in mint condition and this boat was not that. I'd rather spend 10k more on a new boat and have the factory warranty. So I am still looking.
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Get a new boat an be done with it! [emoji3]
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What about an Epic?
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I would give epic a little more time on the market before purchasing one. I have heard not so good things.
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Canyon Bay Boats
Boat quality is better judged by how the 5 year old models are holding up (researching classifieds), as opposed to how they look on the showroom, and expecting guys that made $40k mistakes to actually admit it.
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I don't think epic makes a 24' boat. There are so many boats to choose from that it's hard to pic. The only think new in my price range is a blazer bay 2400. But the weight worries me. I have a friend that has a sea fox and loves it but I can't bring myself to like it enough to buy one. If I could find a Cape Bay 23 or a Canyon Bay 2400 or 2375 used but in good enough condition that would be ideal. Scout also make a 25' that's looks really good. I may just keep putting up with the one I have now until I can save enough to get a new one.
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What do you have now, and what are you looking for that your current boat doesn't offer? |
I have a 20' aluminum boat. When I bought it I had a 21' Cajun Bay Boat but blew the motor on it and got rid of the hull. My boat is great for fishing the marsh or canals but beats me to death any time I try to take on open water. I am looking for a Hybrid sort of Bay Boat. Something that doesn't draw a ton of water and can handle 2'-3' seas and doesn't weigh too much or have too much bow for a trolling motor. I like the idea of a rolled gunwale. I have a tendency to be hard on stuff so quality construction is a must. I don't mind paying for quality but I expect it to take a pounding. I probably should get something like a Gravois or a Guadet, just prefer the ride of a glass boat. I want something that isn't going to be a pain to tow also. I usually make a trip to Cocodrie and a couple trips to BL on my 14 days off, in addition to fishing VBay pretty regularly. There are a lot of factors in the equation I guess. Thats why I am not rushing into anything.
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What's your budget right now?
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I have a 24 ft Haynie that will be for sale in the next couple months.
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50k maybe 55
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I would be really happy at 40. Which may happen if I'm patient. But I'm pretty fed up. Made it about a mile out of freshwater city this morning and had to turn back. Boats on the trailer and I'm soaking wet. Didn't even make it to Chenier au Tigre.
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Check out Hanson skiffs. A new boat with a zuke would be in your price range. That hull has been being produced for a long time under a few different builders and seems to be a great hybrid.
http://www.thehulltruth.com/gulf-coa...opinion.html#b |
That Gravois is a thing of beauty, I wonder how much it weighs. Got to ride like a champ. The only problem with the custom made aluminum boats is getting financing for them because they are not listed in NADA. I looked at the Hanson Skiffs. Good looking boat but can't find the manufactures website other than his Facebook page. That Gravois got me dreaming. Bet if I sell a kidney and a couple a guitars I could swing it.
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I fished in Brandon Carters American Aluminum 25' with a 300. Man that thing is a beast. Best riding bay boat ever imo
Heavy and not the fastest but man its bad to the bone. I think they want over 120k for one now. |
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Checked out the Outlaw 22' Mod Tunnel. If you never heard of it, you are not alone. They make one a month and the only place that sells them is Bernie's in Victoria TX. There's not a whole lot of info on them on the internet but a friend of mine who's opinion I trust told me about them and said its the most innovative hull he has seen on a bay boat. I went by the place to take a look at one and the guy who designed the boat was there. He and his son talked to me for an hour and a half. Described everything on the boat and the reason it was there. They have been in production 2007 and not one dissatisfied costumer. It is a little shorter than I would like but can live with it if the boat can preform as advertised. Dennis Stumfoll, the designer, said he will put this boat against any 24' bay boat on the market when it comes the dryness of the ride. I asked him if it was possible to test drive the boat, he said "how bout I just take you fishing next time your off". I have been dealing with a lot of boat salesmen as of late, and this guy was the complete opposite of most of them. No BS, he was more concerned with his boat having a proper owner than than anything. I have to say I was impressed. Here are the specs and some pics I took.
Length: 21'7" Beam: 8' 6" Weight: 1690 lbs Comes with a 225 SHO Max 41 gal fuel tank. http://www.desperadoboats.com/22_desperadoboats.htm |
Buy a used 24' triton Lts / Lts pro and be done with it
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interesting design, but
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The thing I noticed right away was that with the bait well/ice chest in the rear, that seems to have pushed the console forward a bit and as we all know, in rough water, the farther back you are, the better the ride. If I was to test ride this, I would want to go out in the roughest water I could find to see both how dry it is and how it handles the waves. Good luck with you decision. |
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If you want a nice fit and finish, look at a used triton, shearwater, champion, blackjack. If you don't care too much about fit and finish but want a better riding and dry boat, that will all around out perform and run shallower than any of the above mentioned boats, get a haynie. Transports are also nice boats.
For a little over 40k you can get a brand new frontier, but they are only a 21ft boat. Great boat for a 21 footer though. |
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I've been in both also. Everyone has their own opinion. Haynie is lighter and narrower with a deep V, and doesn't plow into waves as hard. Seems to stay on top better. I have no problem with a triton, that's why I included it in boats to look for.
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Might want'a look @ the Majek 25 extreme.
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How about a Cape Bay 23 or a Key West 23 or a Key West 246?
CB has a 15 degree dead rise while the KW both have 19 degree. |
ill sell you my 24' triton lts pro
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Looked at one of these boats Sunday.... Awesome looking boat. Haven't seen another boat with that much room to fish! |
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