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Jordan 08-11-2014 01:49 PM

Sons of Guns---Imagine that....
 
http://www.kplctv.com/story/26249790...-of-a-juvenile


wow...Molestation of a Juvenile...

BassYakR 08-11-2014 01:56 PM

95% chance its false accusations..... and if so she should serve 20+ years.... Wish our country still worked off of the ole. INNOCENT until PROVEN guilty policy! instead our media ruins ppls lives before they even know the truth!

Matt G 08-11-2014 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by BassYakR (Post 713404)
95% chance its false accusations..... and if so she should serve 20+ years.... Wish our country still worked off of the ole. INNOCENT until PROVEN guilty policy! instead our media ruins ppls lives before they even know the truth!

Agreed. I'm not saying he didn't do it, but it sounds fishy to me. Even if it proves to be a false accusation, his reputation is already ruined.

BassYakR 08-11-2014 02:11 PM

Yep... No one will remember him as the innocent guy... he will always be rememberd now as the guy accused of this.

Pkane3 08-11-2014 02:21 PM

Unfortunately, it is a false accusation but is will still tarnish his reputation. I work closely with those guys and its a shame that someone would "retaliate" in this type of way. That girl means the world to Will! Shame on the mother for taking out her frustration in this way. May she serve a wonderful spell in prison for this [SIZE=3]erroneous allegation![/SIZE]

keakar 08-11-2014 02:23 PM

I think the show was pretty much done with anyways when it stopped being about the guns and turned into "days of our lives but with guns" and this will likely choke the last bit of life out of it. I thought the show should be canceled after last season because it just got too predictable and boring like a reality show and now this.

as to the accusation, well IMO just about 95% of all bad break ups in relationships that have the woman seeking money in the breakup start off by claiming molested children

no one ever really knows another person or what they are capable of but whenever money is involved, common decency and the truth rarely matters

southern151 08-11-2014 04:25 PM

I have a very close friend who just went through this over a former, pissed of daughter in law. By the time it was said and, done, he had his picture posted in the paper along with charges, been arrested in front of customers, interrogated for hours and, spent nearly $30k in lawyers just for the girl to eventually admit that she never suspected it even happened.

Oops, sorry bout that! Hope you don't mind! Not a damn thing could be done to her about it, either!

Chip Landry 08-11-2014 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by southern151 (Post 713446)
I have a very close friend who just went through this over a former, pissed of daughter in law. By the time it was said and, done, he had his picture posted in the paper along with charges, been arrested in front of customers, interrogated for hours and, spent nearly $30k in lawyers just for the girl to eventually admit that she never suspected it even happened.

Oops, sorry bout that! Hope you don't mind! Not a damn thing could be done to her about it, either!

I would get her arse for defamation of character... Shizzle like that makes me mad mad even though I don't even know that poor guy.

southern151 08-11-2014 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Chip Landry (Post 713448)
I would get her arse for defamation of character... Shizzle like that makes me mad mad even though I don't even know that poor guy.

She lives in her dad's old run-down trailer. I guess he could have sued her for the axles. Yeah, it pisses me off too!

bigheadboo 08-27-2014 12:20 PM

upped the charge
 
http://www.nydailynews.com/entertain...icle-1.1918473

Bluechip 08-27-2014 12:25 PM

Wow!!! I hope this is not true but where there is smoke there is usually fire.

BassYakR 08-27-2014 12:28 PM

Yeah or someone thats pissed off or jealous tryn to hurt someone or make money. Ill wait till the facts come out again. Hopefully proves to be Innocent again.

RickLafayette 08-27-2014 12:33 PM

LOL...Seems like every reality show based in Louisiana has had at least one cast member who got arrested. Jimmy from Swamp People, Billy the exterminator...now Will Hayden. I know a few of the Robertsons' were arrested but those arrests might have been staged for the show.

keakar 08-27-2014 01:23 PM

wouldn't be the first time a mother with a grudge wanting money got the daughter to lie about sexual abuse, in fact its very common, very common.

I withhold my judgement until the case has been fully investigated and settled but at this time I am very skeptical about these claims

if its true he belongs in jail, if they are lying then they belong in jail and forced to pay restitution with garnished wages for the rest of their lives

eman 08-27-2014 05:17 PM

A&E pulled the plug on the show as of 1 pm today.

Matt G 08-27-2014 06:13 PM

Well there goes his reputation for sure. I for one hope the allegations aren't true for the little girls sake. If they are then hang em from a tall tree with a long rope. Show ISIS the American way to behead someone.

duckman1911 08-27-2014 06:25 PM

Guy is screwed either way unfortunately. Saw a situation with my neighbor because of a spoiled little brat. He's the stepdad but when he decided to put his foot down and be the boss of his own house he ended up in handcuffs for sexual abuse of a minor. When it all got sorted out she was just making it up to get revenge because she didn't want him telling her what to do.

Goooh 08-28-2014 07:00 AM

Horrible show anyhow. Staged reality us much better when the characters can at least act

BassYakR 08-28-2014 07:10 AM

I liked the show when it first started.... then it got to be way more of a soap opera than a gun building show!

keakar 08-28-2014 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by BassYakR (Post 716612)
I liked the show when it first started.... then it got to be way more of a soap opera than a gun building show!

yep, I figured it wouldn't have made the full season anyway from lack of viewers since as you said, it no longer had anything to do with building guns and turned into a side show soap opera about the characters.

I only watch a handful of last years shows only because nothing else was on but I wasn't interested in anything I was seeing on the show to watch it on purpose

Pkane3 08-28-2014 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Pkane3 (Post 713411)
Unfortunately, it is a false accusation but is will still tarnish his reputation. I work closely with those guys and its a shame that someone would "retaliate" in this type of way. That girl means the world to Will! Shame on the mother for taking out her frustration in this way. May she serve a wonderful spell in prison for this [SIZE=3]erroneous allegation![/SIZE]

Well I accepted what I heard from the higher ups over there. But these latest allegations? I just wish it wasn't true, but that's why we have our so called judicial system.
This ones going to sting, no matter the outcome.

CaryLab 08-28-2014 07:55 PM

Y'all might want to go check out the general discussion section of ar15.com forums then make your judgement. Think some minds might be changed when you see what his oldest daughter Steph, son-in-law Chris and previous employee Flem are saying. Sounds like this is just the beginning. Until I read it I was thinking revenge by an ex also. Not thinking that anymore!

Bluechip 08-28-2014 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by CaryLab (Post 716749)
Y'all might want to go check out the general discussion section of ar15.com forums then make your judgement. Think some minds might be changed when you see what his oldest daughter Steph, son-in-law Chris and previous employee Flem are saying. Sounds like this is just the beginning. Until I read it I was thinking revenge by an ex also. Not thinking that anymore!

I said yesterday where there is smoke there is usually fire. Once they arrested him a second time, they have the goods on him. It's just a matter of time before he confesses or commits suicide.

CaryLab 08-28-2014 08:36 PM

I agree but I don't think he'll confess. I think if he bonds out we'll see him in the obituary.


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Bluechip 08-28-2014 08:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaryLab (Post 716759)
I agree but I don't think he'll confess. I think if he bonds out we'll see him in the obituary.


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I would agree.....

Sightwindow 08-28-2014 08:41 PM

White trash.

Matt G 08-28-2014 09:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaryLab (Post 716759)
I agree but I don't think he'll confess. I think if he bonds out we'll see him in the obituary.


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I believe the proper term is $hi+ sandwich. Sometimes its easier to eat a bullet than take a bite.

swamp snorkler 08-29-2014 06:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaryLab (Post 716749)
Y'all might want to go check out the general discussion section of ar15.com forums then make your judgement. Think some minds might be changed when you see what his oldest daughter Steph, son-in-law Chris and previous employee Flem are saying. Sounds like this is just the beginning. Until I read it I was thinking revenge by an ex also. Not thinking that anymore!

You got a link?

jopete 08-29-2014 07:19 AM

if it's not true, he ought to go beat her to death. slowly.
if it's true, then he ought to be beat to death.

no big loss to society either way.

lil bubba 08-29-2014 07:38 AM

http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/165...ge=8#i49050026

try this. dont know if it will work.

southern151 08-29-2014 08:04 AM

WOW!

Sightwindow 08-29-2014 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by lil bubba (Post 716819)
http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/165...ge=8#i49050026

try this. dont know if it will work.

It works. And my god what a mess...

southern151 08-29-2014 08:13 AM

They'll find him dead in a cell, if they give him so much as a shoe string!

keakar 08-29-2014 11:41 AM

comment posted by flem on that other site: edited by me to remove bad words

Quote:

OK Im going to break my silence on all the stuff that’s been happening. This will be my FINAL comments on it.
Also be prepared, I don’t have to watch what I say anymore because of a TV show.

First off Im going to go with innocent till proven guilty because that is the law of the land BUT there is a ton of evidence out there. Im privy to a little more info than most of yall are and I can tell you its bleeped up. Like I don’t even want to know what I know bleeped up.
Ive known who the accuser is for a while now and I can tell you 100% I believe her. She isn’t looking for cash she is just doing whats right. If someone out there still thinks the ex wife is trying to get back or some silly bleep like that you can stop that bleep now.

Did will hayden jumpstart my career? Yep sure did. So did the folks at Discovery and Jupiter productions. I appreciate what they did. And to Discov and Jupiter and most of the guys at RJF, I had a ton of fun with it Thank you.

Now to the point at hand, this may sounds harsh but ya know what bleep it. If he is guilty hang him. From the tallest tree, with piano wire.
I consider the folks I was on the show with my friends and I will always be there for em and I hate what the family is going through but remember one egotistical bleephole did this. Im sure he can find one bullet
now for flem to come out and say that gives me pause

but then he was always acting weird when vince left and seamed to go out of his way to help vince do things that could hurt red jacket and I always suspected he was the one telling vince info to allow him to do things like buy up all the barrels they needed for that huge order so he could try to screw red jacket.

im not taking flems word as unbiased but I have a much more neutral position now that it may or may not be true where before I tended to assume innocence until I see proof otherwise

CaryLab 08-29-2014 11:44 AM

Forget what flem said look what Steph is saying!


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Top Dawg 08-29-2014 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by CaryLab (Post 716843)
Forget what flem said look what Steph is saying!


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Can u link us to what she is sayin? Can't find it

keakar 08-29-2014 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by CaryLab (Post 716843)
Forget what flem said look what Steph is saying!


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I have been trying to ignore the whole thing to be honest, what DID steph say? all I saw was she said nothing ever happened with her or when she was around

CaryLab 08-29-2014 11:57 AM

Driving right now but start reading the post on about page 7 or 8 and you'll see screenshots from her FB page and comments from Chris.


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CaryLab 08-29-2014 11:58 AM

Her story has changed since the 2nd arrest


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keakar 08-29-2014 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Top Dawg (Post 716844)
Can u link us to what she is sayin? Can't find it

I found it, look here:
and then I found this comment from Chris:
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Must we really go there.
I don't care what you've heard about who or where.
I dare you to say that my wife is a liar,
and I wouldn't believe it, but the water is higher;
And here comes the fire
that will burn your soul
'Cause I know what you did when she was 12 years old.
I know about the drinking and you thinking you'd get away
worried about the "shame" that she'd live with one day.
Bull****!
You fooled with my wife when she was young.
(mature content removed) and groping, do you remember what was done?
Well she does, and she told me how you made her feel.
like she was wrong, when this was your deal.
you've been doing dope, meth and coke
prescription pills when all you needed was hope.
trying to tell me that my wife's property was yours,
did you think for a moment I would change my course? I'm sure of what my wife has said and told me;
and now the light shines on the lies you sold me.
you are in deeper than you've ever been,
you were in deep before I met you,
before I thought we were friends.
you threaten these women 'cause you were afraid of men.
You threaten their lives while you smile and grin.
well your face twist, and I've wondered why.
there was always something behind your eyes.
Best friends of yours still don't want to believe,
but the word you've been standing on
will bring you to your knees.
please,
try to get some help.
Or go ahead, become dead, kill yourself,
whatever MF, do as you will,
but I promise you
you won't get to kill,
me or my family or any of my friends.
I told you before I was here to the end.
I promised my wife more than I promised you,
and that's why we've done what we had to do.
who are you,
that you should escape
from the punishment you deserve?
Man this is rape!
This is abuse in a sexual manner.
This is hard facts, not TV banter.
Plan your plans and scheme your plots
but my Glock 17 still has 17 shots.
believe me you've got nothing left here,
cause I've got eyes to see and ears to hear.
Fear is why my wife asked me to save her.
She knew you did it, and she knew you'd enslave her. and we saw how you tried to exploit her property
and you always said "No one will stop me."
Well you've got these new enemies,
and I've got mine,
and you are one of them, and that's just fine.
If that's what you play, I hope you play well,
but man let me tell you my enemies face hell.
for my God is with me, and I am with Him.
and all of His angels make your chances slim.
I believe in them because they come from God.
Jehovah is the one that gives the nod.
Jesus holds the rod that guides my flock;
He is my foundation, solid as a rock.
I tried to save you but you believed in yourself.
well, see how it is
without our help.

Kris Ford
9:32pm 8/26/14
that pretty much puts the nail in the coffin as far as I am concerned

Matt G 08-29-2014 07:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by keakar (Post 716842)
comment posted by flem on that other site: edited by me to remove bad words



now for flem to come out and say that gives me pause

but then he was always acting weird when vince left and seamed to go out of his way to help vince do things that could hurt red jacket and I always suspected he was the one telling vince info to allow him to do things like buy up all the barrels they needed for that huge order so he could try to screw red jacket.

im not taking flems word as unbiased but I have a much more neutral position now that it may or may not be true where before I tended to assume innocence until I see proof otherwise

Dude, its a show. 99% of the crap on there is made up drama for ratings. No need to question others integrity over this matter.

Hightower 09-12-2014 06:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pkane3 (Post 713411)
Unfortunately, it is a false accusation but is will still tarnish his reputation. I work closely with those guys and its a shame that someone would "retaliate" in this type of way. That girl means the world to Will! Shame on the mother for taking out her frustration in this way. May she serve a wonderful spell in prison for this [SIZE=3]erroneous allegation![/SIZE]

I guess you know him well enough to know that all of these new allegations from his older daughter and her cousin are false as well?? I know stranger things have probably happened, but I just can't fathom that his immediate family would have this kind of vendetta against him. The dude needs to rot in Angola if this is all true.

rustyb 09-12-2014 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Hightower (Post 719881)
I guess you know him well enough to know that all of these new allegations from his older daughter and her cousin are false as well?? I know stranger things have probably happened, but I just can't fathom that his immediate family would have this kind of vendetta against him. The dude needs to rot in Angola if this is all true.

X2

Country Boy 09-12-2014 09:08 PM

My wife was watching Dr. Phil and his daughter that was on the tv show with him was being interviewed by Dr. Phil and she also said that when she was younger one time he kissing her on her neck and ears and also was pinching her on her chest then grabbed her waist while she was sitting on his lap, at first I didn't believe what was being said but hearing this from her kinda changes my mind!


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