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bgizzle 08-26-2014 08:47 AM

Need plant help!!!
 
Ok well we just set a 20' blind in our field. Our field is rice. The ground around the blind is now dirt for a good ways 360* around the blind. We are looking to plant something that Would add concealment.... Not hunting this field for teal season . Any ideas what would look good around a blind in a rice field? And..... GO


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DeeCee 08-26-2014 08:51 AM

spaghetti grass is good, but the most durable is plain old salt grass.

bgizzle 08-26-2014 09:13 AM

Thx. I'll check into it


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Ducktrickster 08-26-2014 09:27 AM

Find a pasture to raid.
http://rcrec-ona.ifas.ufl.edu/images...s/or4-09f1.jpg

bgizzle 08-26-2014 09:43 AM

We are going to dig Klumps of grass when it gets closer. More than likely during teal season. For now though we want to plant something to start the process of concealment and to hold the fresh dirt so it doesn't washout


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AubreyLaHaye458 08-26-2014 12:17 PM

Mustard greens.


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meaux fishing 08-26-2014 12:35 PM

Does the farmer have any restrictions on what you can plant?

bgizzle 08-26-2014 01:09 PM

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Does the farmer have any restrictions on what you can plant?

No bc he isn't cutting second crop bc he's going to crawfish it. Which is also part of the reason y we aren't hunting it for teal. He doesn't want to catch water too early and the crawfish get up n migrate to next field.

But to answer your question... No. And the section of what we want to plant isn't that bigAttachment 73843

Blind is 20' total length and and. About 3' wide


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bgizzle 08-26-2014 01:15 PM

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Not that y'all either. Looks taller in first picAttachment 73845
That's cut rice stubble in front of the blind.

After seeing it, we are thinking of just transplanting small pods of Johnson grass soon so it'll hopefully take with that fresh dirt.

I'm excited though it's an island blind and it sticks out way less than the blind we took out


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Duckaholic 08-26-2014 02:00 PM

Best Bet
 
Your best bet is to just wait for next year on the grass and lay down some cover that will keep you from slipping in the mud. Next brush your blind with green pine branches or big leaf oak branches, I mean an ugly amount! More than you are comfortable with. The green pine branches will last and will eventually turn brown.

I know it sounds crazy but it works. Ducks do not shy away from big brush piles just faces and heads of people. Make sure to cover the entire opening of your blind so that you have to cut your way out to shoot. I have personally smoked the ducks out of big overly brushed blinds that are brushed this way on Catahoula Lake, Honey brake Lodge, and other private spots around Louisiana. Trust me, this will work...if you can convince your buddies to let you do it!

Just remember, that's how the Robertsons do it and I don't think they are new at this duck hunting thing.

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Duckaholic 08-26-2014 02:26 PM

Roseaux
 
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What ever you do, don't brush with roseaux (sp) or cat tail or cane of any kind. you will never get rid of it.

Here's a couple of pics using Pine branches

bgizzle 08-26-2014 02:48 PM

We use willows bc it's natural around our area. It doesn't stick up much but I understand where u coming from. It'll be right come duck season. I'll post updates on this thread as it progresses


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speck-chaser 08-26-2014 04:44 PM

plant some milo, feed and brush in one. :D

cgoods17 08-26-2014 04:54 PM

is that blind in the middle of the field and not on a levee?

meaux fishing 08-26-2014 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by cgoods17 (Post 716317)
is that blind in the middle of the field and not on a levee?

yep... The one Ive hunted that last few years is like that

noodle creek 08-26-2014 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by cgoods17 (Post 716317)
is that blind in the middle of the field and not on a levee?

I was thinking the same thing

Gottogo49 08-26-2014 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Duckaholic (Post 716287)
What ever you do, don't brush with roseaux (sp) or cat tail or cane of any kind. you will never get rid of it.

Here's a couple of pics using Pine branches

I agree with you on the roseau and cat tail and I can attest that the pine branches do work they just don't look very natural and they can be a little pokey for your eyes. Ducks are sometimes not as discriminating as we would like to think they are. You can catch lots of fish on an old beat up plug but it just feels better catching them on a newer shinny bait.

flounder_smacker 08-26-2014 07:41 PM

https://hancockseed.com/weeping-love...5-lbs-282.html

this is what we plant. grows fast but you need to plant now. looking at your photo you only need a little bit. you might be able to find the seed in lower amounts for cheaper somewhere else.

saute86 08-26-2014 08:36 PM

We always used crape myrtles in Thornwell. They grow natural in fields and help with bugs.

Straggler 08-26-2014 10:04 PM

Need plant help!!!
 
Just sayin, you might consider planting rice in the rice field. It will blend perfectly....... You're plenty early enough...and the farmer won't run you off!!!

bgizzle 08-27-2014 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by cgoods17 (Post 716317)
is that blind in the middle of the field and not on a levee?

Yep it's an island blind. Is that a bad thing?


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cgoods17 08-27-2014 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by bgizzle (Post 716410)
Yep it's an island blind. Is that a bad thing?


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why would you not put it on a levee to make it easier to hide, instead of putting it smack dab in the middle of the cut and make it look like a sore thumb? now it is the only pile of grass in the middle of the field.:shaking::shaking:

bgizzle 08-27-2014 09:22 AM

Can't put it on a levee. We killed 600 birds out of it last yr not including teal. it looks natural once it's brushed. 2nd crop rice won't be cut. Its already almost standing taller than the blind. You've never hunted out of an island blind?


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bgizzle 08-27-2014 09:23 AM

Speckchaser hunted it. Jody you think it stuck out like a sore thumb? Or did everything we killed including pins and mallards decoy?


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bgizzle 08-27-2014 09:27 AM

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meaux fishing 08-27-2014 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by bgizzle (Post 716426)
Can't put it on a levee. We killed 600 birds out of it last yr not including teal. it looks natural once it's brushed. 2nd crop rice won't be cut. Its already almost standing taller than the blind. You've never hunted out of an island blind?


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I think the best part of an island blind is when the birds start to get levee shy at the end of the season

cgoods17 08-27-2014 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by bgizzle (Post 716426)
Can't put it on a levee. We killed 600 birds out of it last yr not including teal. it looks natural once it's brushed. 2nd crop rice won't be cut. Its already almost standing taller than the blind. You've never hunted out of an island blind?


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yes i have hunted out of an island blind in a marsh...

How does an island blind in a rice field look "natural"?? so the second crop wont be cut? so will yall just flood the water as high as you can? i think i am missing something here..

AubreyLaHaye458 08-27-2014 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by meaux fishing (Post 716431)
I think the best part of an island blind is when the birds start to get levee shy at the end of the season


This.


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AubreyLaHaye458 08-27-2014 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by cgoods17 (Post 716433)
yes i have hunted out of an island blind in a marsh...



How does an island blind in a rice field look "natural"?? so the second crop wont be cut? so will yall just flood the water as high as you can? i think i am missing something here..


He's not nearly the first one to do this. I've hunted out of island blinds on several different occasions. We had one when I was younger. Whether it sticks out or not the ducks don't seem to have a problem with it. And like Meaux said later in the season the ducks get levee shy and will only land in the middle of a cut. We have patches of Roseauxs(I guess) come up in the middle of our crawfish lakes and we kill ducks standing up in the middle of them. Same situation.


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bgizzle 08-27-2014 11:03 AM

Hard to explain further if u still confused. The farmer still buffaloes sections how we want it done. We keep some standing on the sides going east and west so it makes it look similar to a levee. Once you harvest the first crop u can manipulate it how you want. Maybe that's what ur confused about.


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cgoods17 08-27-2014 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by bgizzle (Post 716449)
Hard to explain further if u still confused. The farmer still buffaloes sections how we want it done. We keep some standing on the sides going east and west so it makes it look similar to a levee. Once you harvest the first crop u can manipulate it how you want. Maybe that's what ur confused about.


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no, this is not the source of my confusion... i have never once came across ducks that were levee shy at end of season.

just think that you are making more work for yourself.
to each their own, i guess..

bgizzle 08-27-2014 12:18 PM

We can't put the blind on the levee. Can't. Can not


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cgoods17 08-27-2014 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by bgizzle (Post 716460)
We can't put the blind on the levee. Can't. Can not


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so you mean to tell me that you can't put your blind on the levee?

biggun 08-27-2014 01:41 PM

Rye grass on the dirt . and Then Use cut green cedar branches. They don't brown up like pine does.

tboy 08-27-2014 01:56 PM

Man, if I were you, i'd just put the blind IN the levee.

bgizzle 08-27-2014 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by cgoods17 (Post 716474)
so you mean to tell me that you can't put your blind on the levee?

Nope sure cant


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cgoods17 08-27-2014 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by bgizzle (Post 716494)
Nope sure cant


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What is farmers reasoning behind that, if you don't mind me asking?

bgizzle 08-27-2014 04:05 PM

It's the way the field is set up. One side is a tree line, one side is the border of a rest pond, and the other side borders another blind. Then the 4th side is a levy he uses to travel with his farm equipment aka a main farm traffic corridor. There used to be a levy that sectioned off north and south sections of our huge field but they took the levy out . We kills a good amount more birds now that it's an island blind.


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BigAl 08-27-2014 09:49 PM

I would recommend taking some of that dirt away from the blind to make the "island" smaller. You can then plant rice right up to the blind. After the first harvest, break the stubble down over the edges of the blind. I have killed a lot of ducks out of island blinds like this but the island was smaller. I've also killed a lot of ducks at Catahoula Lake with green pine brush on a stick up blind or on a floating blind. Looks like a big pine tree in the middle of an ocean, but the ducks will decoy. They don't like it when it turns brown for some reason. If you use pine, make sure to get the cut ends in the water so they stay green longer. My 2 cents. Good luck!

speck-chaser 08-27-2014 10:16 PM

We didnt seem to have any problems with the ducks coming in. Just had a lil problem with my shooting that morning, or shells, or them green heads were wearing body armour, cuz the feathers were flying, just werent falling. lol But now that I think about it, that blind probably would be better "ON THE LEVEE":rolleyes::rolleyes:

noodle creek 08-27-2014 10:32 PM

"Levee shy" is a new term to me. Maybe if your blind sticks out like a sore thumb they don't want to come close, but if your blind looks like the rest of the levee no problem. Seen plenty of ducks late season sitting right next to levees, hell, even walking around on top of em.

bgizzle 08-28-2014 07:32 AM

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Originally Posted by noodle creek (Post 716599)
"Levee shy" is a new term to me. Maybe if your blind sticks out like a sore thumb they don't want to come close, but if your blind looks like the rest of the levee no problem. Seen plenty of ducks late season sitting right next to levees, hell, even walking around on top of em.

Me too. Hard north wind I've seen em use a levee like a wind break. All huddled up near it.


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MarshRat89 08-28-2014 09:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by noodle creek (Post 716599)
"Levee shy" is a new term to me. Maybe if your blind sticks out like a sore thumb they don't want to come close, but if your blind looks like the rest of the levee no problem. Seen plenty of ducks late season sitting right next to levees, hell, even walking around on top of em.

See this also on warmer sunny days after big fronts.
They get up and sun on the bank. See it a lot with geese too.

LA-BOY 08-31-2014 03:20 PM

We have used hay to cover up new blind back fill dirt for years. Blends in great and is cheap fix til it grasses over.

BGcoreg 09-03-2014 09:17 PM

Shot in the dark but anyone happen to have one of these?? Would love to borrow one to try it out

http://youtu.be/LokMwxbd8lI


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