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Ed32 09-10-2014 06:51 AM

v8 vs. ecoboost
 
what do ya'll f150 guys think? fixing to buy a new truck and wanting to get opinions and reviews on the engine. the heaviest thing i'll be pulling is a 22'bayboat.

MattMigues 09-10-2014 07:07 AM

I have an 2013 Eccoboost I get around 18-20mpg average, I pulled a 21' Kenner to GI this summer 11.5mpg round trip when i made it back to New Iberia

rustyb 09-10-2014 07:14 AM

I have an eco boost with 55k miles. 4X4 Trouble free. It blows away the 5.0 in towing. But after that they are very close in everything else. Fuel mileage is about the same. If you dont drive it hard fuel mileage may be a lil better than a v8,but not much. Where it shines is towing. I pull a 38ft toy hauler fifth wheel that weighs in at 14,500. It pulls it like a diesel and makes 9.5 mpg. I also tow a 25ft bay boat and towing it it makes 11-12 mpg. Whenever the turbos spool up it takes more fuel. A couple of friends have the same truck with v8 and they are similar. But when it comes to towing no comparison. All stock except for air bags in rear for towing camper.

BuckingFastard 09-10-2014 07:17 AM

ecoboost by far

but if youre gonna be pulling a big load all the time why not just get a diesel? 9mpg is pretty crabby for a 500 mile trip lol

Purple Back 09-10-2014 07:32 AM

Got an ecoboost and it pulls my bay boat just fine.

However, you might want to watch this clip for a better view of ford, :)

bearwash87 09-10-2014 07:35 AM

why pay diesel prices when the ecoboost pulls just as good?

Goooh 09-10-2014 07:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bearwash87 (Post 719397)
why pay diesel prices when the ecoboost pulls just as good?


Lmao. Ecoboost just as good as a diesel?


Get big v8, this isn't Europe.

meaux fishing 09-10-2014 08:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bearwash87 (Post 719397)
why pay diesel prices when the ecoboost pulls just as good?

lol yeah lets see who can pull more, my 5.9 cummins or an eco boost.

Ed32 09-10-2014 08:19 AM

i think i'm going to get the v8. i don't pull that much that often.

rustyb 09-10-2014 08:21 AM

v8 vs. ecoboost
 
Don't think ford offers a big v8 in f150. And the 5.0 pulls normal loads fine

bearwash87 09-10-2014 08:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by meaux fishing (Post 719411)
lol yeah lets see who can pull more, my 5.9 cummins or an eco boost.

haha I was being sarcastic. I have a duramax and couldn't believe he really thinks it will keep up with a diesel. I can pull 5th wheel camper with a bay boat behind it and still get 12mpg. I want to see ecoboost do that!!

rustyb 09-10-2014 08:24 AM

v8 vs. ecoboost
 
I said like a diesel not better. Don't get crazy
I traded my 2012 dodge diesel in on this truck.

all star rod 09-10-2014 08:26 AM

I have an eco 4×4 with 25k miles. ECO is better than the 5.0 (more pick-up & towing capacity) and the crap Obama motors (GM) has now. I get 16-19 and 12 towing 22' bay boat. Only way I would not get the ECO boost is if I went with the 6.2 but they suck gas regardless if towing or not. My coworker has a 2012 f150 4×4 6.2 and he tells me he gets 14- 15 mpg max on interstate (not towing). I assume you can still get the 6.2 in F-150?

BuckingFastard 09-10-2014 08:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bearwash87 (Post 719397)
why pay diesel prices when the ecoboost pulls just as good?

9 mpg isnt pulling good... also having to add bags and a programmer and intake and exhaust to pull a load isnt called pulling good either. not sure if he has it but lots do. a diesel would still get 14-15 mpg pulling that load which in the long term pays for itself in fuel.

pulls as good as a diesel.. lol i wish. i wouldnt be confused on what to buy if that was the case. 440 horsepower and 860 lb-ft of torque in the 2015 diesels is quite a lot more power... pretty much double.

BuckingFastard 09-10-2014 08:32 AM

i feel like im having dejavu on here for sure lol

T-TOP 09-10-2014 09:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BuckingFastard (Post 719426)
9 mpg isnt pulling good... also having to add bags and a programmer and intake and exhaust to pull a load isnt called pulling good either. not sure if he has it but lots do. a diesel would still get 14-15 mpg pulling that load which in the long term pays for itself in fuel.

pulls as good as a diesel.. lol i wish. i wouldnt be confused on what to buy if that was the case. 440 horsepower and 860 lb-ft of torque in the 2015 diesels is quite a lot more power... pretty much double.

If you are not hauling a big 5th wheel or working the truck hauling stock or plan the get a boat that requires the diesel I would get half ton gas. Just traded in my 08 duramax, on a chev 1500 4x4. The ride is better, fuel eco is better and there is always some extra cost in owning a diesel. It tows my boat and my tractor great

BuckingFastard 09-10-2014 09:17 AM

yea nobody needs a diesel unless they absolutely need a diesel. been there. my only dilemma is the fact that i need to pull an 18K+ 5th wheel. or i can just leave it parked and get a gas.

backlash 09-10-2014 11:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by T-TOP (Post 719445)
If you are not hauling a big 5th wheel or working the truck hauling stock or plan the get a boat that requires the diesel I would get half ton gas. Just traded in my 08 duramax, on a chev 1500 4x4. The ride is better, fuel eco is better and there is always some extra cost in owning a diesel. It tows my boat and my tractor great


I just did the same thing (only got a Ford). With diesel prices 60-70 cents more than gasoline, it doesn't make sense to drive a diesel if you no longer need it.
It amazes me to see these kids with jacked up 3/4 ton rigs, big exhausts, probably chipped engines. How do they afford that crap?
And to get back to your question, I got the V8 just because I'm leery of a turbo engine. The V8 hauls my boat just fine, and it weighs about 2500 lbs.
Without a load, I'm getting about 19 mpg average. WIth the boat, it's about 15. Coming from a diesel, I can live with those numbers, and the ride is so much nicer. Like a car.

Goooh 09-10-2014 11:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by backlash (Post 719492)
It amazes me to see these kids with jacked up 3/4 ton rigs, big exhausts, probably chipped engines. How do they afford that crap?


They are either stay at home sons, or live in a $400/mo trailer with $1,000 month truck and four wheeler note

kb7722 09-10-2014 12:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Goooh (Post 719493)
They are either stay at home sons, or live in a $400/mo trailer with $1,000 month truck and four wheeler note

ding ding ding we have a winner

haoward 09-10-2014 05:12 PM

Love my 14 ecobeast 4x4
Had a 03 GMC sierra and it had trouble going up those steep bridge going Fourchon towing my offshore boat with full gear and 160 gallon
http://i60.tinypic.com/b7jsbc.jpg

papap 09-10-2014 05:33 PM

I just bought the Dodge 1500 with the diesel. Love it

alphaman 09-10-2014 05:45 PM

Hemi all day!!!! fuel saving tech makes a big difference while city driving compared to a str8 v8.
and it pulls my boat very well along with good gas milage. While towing 13-14 mpg towing my boat 60-63 mph.

meaux fishing 09-10-2014 05:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by papap (Post 719551)
I just bought the Dodge 1500 with the diesel. Love it

been wondering about those

ski 09-10-2014 05:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by papap (Post 719551)
I just bought the Dodge 1500 with the diesel. Love it

Bingo! Unless your loyal to Fo moCo. I would like a Ram Ecodiesel myself. Probably pull the trigger on one next year.

papap 09-10-2014 06:46 PM

Drove to Houston and back all on interstate. Got 31 mpg. I've been pulling a trailer with 2 four wheelers this week getting over 20 mpg.

rustyb 09-10-2014 06:46 PM

I really can't wait till the tundra cummins truck. Now we talkin.

ski 09-10-2014 06:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by papap (Post 719560)
Drove to Houston and back all on interstate. Got 31 mpg. I've been pulling a trailer with 2 four wheelers this week getting over 20 mpg.

Post a pic of your truck. Would love to see it.

meaux fishing 09-10-2014 07:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rustyb (Post 719561)
I really can't wait till the tundra cummins truck. Now we talkin.

yep... 2016 models

rustyb 09-10-2014 07:16 PM

5.8 v8

meaux fishing 09-10-2014 07:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by papap (Post 719560)
Drove to Houston and back all on interstate. Got 31 mpg. I've been pulling a trailer with 2 four wheelers this week getting over 20 mpg.

Is that from the computer numbers or hand calculations?

Goooh 09-10-2014 07:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by meaux fishing (Post 719568)
Is that from the computer numbers or hand calculations?


Had to be an abacus

meaux fishing 09-10-2014 09:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Goooh (Post 719574)
Had to be an abacus

It isnt accurate otherwise

mriguy 09-10-2014 10:21 PM

Waiting on the 2015 F150. .....Or maybe this
http://truckyeah.jalopnik.com/listen...+matthardigree
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I337 using Tapatalk 2

Natural Light Kid 09-10-2014 10:44 PM

Just for a ram 2500 a few weeks ago with the new 6.4 hemi. Loving it so far. 2 trips from lake chuck to baton rouge and back (no load) and 18 on one trip and 18.5 on the other. This is off the computer. I did not hand calculate it. I also drove the limit + 4 mph on cruise. Pulls 30' camper and 21.5' bay boat good I just haven't pulled any kind of distance to give mpg numbers. I had a ford 5.0 before this truck. Great engine. Strong and efficient. Really liked it and the truck but wanted a 3/4 ton and the new big hemi.

Cripley 09-10-2014 10:47 PM

I hooked my boat up to all of them when I was looking 5.7 Toyota Tundra blew them all away for pulling power

Natural Light Kid 09-11-2014 07:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cripley (Post 719613)
I hooked my boat up to all of them when I was looking 5.7 Toyota Tundra blew them all away for pulling power

Just to be clear, all of the 1/2 tons?

kb7722 09-11-2014 07:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rustyb (Post 719561)
I really can't wait till the tundra cummins truck. Now we talkin.

Bingo! 5 Liter 300 Hp 500 FT-LBS

Game changer!

capt coonassty 09-11-2014 07:28 AM

I wonder how heavy the front end would feel with a 5L motor.

Goooh 09-11-2014 07:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cripley (Post 719613)
I hooked my boat up to all of them when I was looking 5.7 Toyota Tundra blew them all away for pulling power


Not sure about this?

BuckingFastard 09-11-2014 07:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cripley (Post 719613)
I hooked my boat up to all of them when I was looking 5.7 Toyota Tundra blew them all away for pulling power

http://youtu.be/eq05bNUaBnU

i think youre mistaken. the ford out does them all in the pulling.

jpeff31787 09-11-2014 08:24 AM

between Chevy 5.3, Ford 5.0, and ecoboost, I can tell you this. First off don't get the chevy 5.3 (2008), I didn't like the way it pulled at all. It would struggle pulling into a headwind with a 16' express, truck seemed like it forgot where its gears were... enough said to that

Between the 5.0 and Eco, I think its a preference thing. For our bay boat, the mileage is similar (5.0 may be a tad better, I never drove it and my uncle drives much slower than I do so hard to say about mileage) I do know that when I set my(ECO) cruise at 70-73 with our bay boat, it'll never drop a gear going from Opelousas to V. Bay and mileage is anywhere between 11-13mpg with our bay boat, just depends on wind/load and whatever. With my 16' express hooked up, I can drive 75 and mileage is usually right around 15mpg. Mileage on interstate at 74mph is usually 17-19mpg, you drop that to 68mph and its over 20.

EDIT: Forgot to mention these were all 4x4 trucks. In the fords are 3.5.5 ratios

kb7722 09-11-2014 08:27 AM

There is NO replacement for displacement! The 5.7L has 63% more displacement. If you want more power out of it, some off the shelf aftermarket bolt-ons and a programmer will get you there. I don't think anybody wants to fiddle with the 3.5L ecoboost. They have already squeezed all the power out of the 3.5L.

bigmb102460 09-11-2014 09:02 AM

f150
 
go to ford in breaux bridge talk to bubba Bourque ( my Brother ) great deals on what ever you need tell him i sent you. #BEMORE

BassYakR 09-11-2014 09:50 AM

that lil 3.5 eco boost with a few modifications can make a ****LOAD more power than it already does! New Technology > Displacement IMO

kb7722 09-11-2014 10:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BassYakR (Post 719646)
that lil 3.5 eco boost with a few modifications can make a ****LOAD more power than it already does! New Technology > Displacement IMO

A LOAD you say... like the LOAD of crap you are spewing out now?

scott craft 09-11-2014 11:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kb7722 (Post 719637)
There is NO replacement for displacement! The 5.7L has 63% more displacement. If you want more power out of it, some off the shelf aftermarket bolt-ons and a programmer will get you there. I don't think anybody wants to fiddle with the 3.5L ecoboost. They have already squeezed all the power out of the 3.5L.

Bolton Ford here in Lake Charles offers performance stuff for the ecoboost with a warranty.

BassYakR 09-11-2014 12:25 PM

the eco boost will make more power than the 5.0 all day long with same amount of money invested! Simple as that!

rustyb 09-11-2014 04:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cripley (Post 719613)
I hooked my boat up to all of them when I was looking 5.7 Toyota Tundra blew them all away for pulling power

My eco boost outpulls my tundra big time. But Ill bet the toyota will outlive em all.

Natural Light Kid 09-11-2014 05:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rustyb (Post 719717)
My eco boost outpulls my tundra big time. But Ill bet the toyota will outlive em all.

That's impossible. Thought there was no replacement for displacement lol.


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