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I just sold my bay boat so im in the market for a new one, looking for something in the 22ft range with atleast 200hp, really considering the frontier meridian 2104, also looking to keep it under 50k plus ttl. Just looking for some experienced input

I have a 2104 frontier with the suzuki 175. Awesome boat, dry ride, fast sips gas. Lots of storage. I have no complaints at All. There's a few other people that have one as well.

If you ever headed to lafayette I could show you my boat. Shoot me a pm.

Alphaman, i fish grand isle alot and it can get rough real quick there, how well can it handle big chop? Only thing i dont like ab the frontier is there is no step/fishbox between the front deck and floor

It handle the big chop very well!!. And you wont get wet. They way the bow is made it slices through the chop! Have you seen on up close

Another boat I considered was the ranger bahia. That's a nice boat. But I chose frontier bc I felt it was a better fit for my family.

What's big chop?


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Vermillion bay with a front coming in from the North!😉

1-3ft, im more than likely gonna go with the frontier with a yamaha 200sho

For the price. 4k more your only getting 5 mph faster. My WOT with 175 is 53-54 full tank gear. My buddy just got a 2104 with the new 200 suzuki.

1-3 wouldnt be a problem at all with the frontier

Man did haynie start making frontiers?

Lol Na k2 marine makes frontiers and blackjacks. 😆 if you dont know go ride in one😆😉😎

I took 3 footers on lake P one day but they were spaced out good.
My boat continues to impress me in diffrent choppy conditions.

can confirm.. that's a hell of a chop!!

Did you get wet? Id say probably not.
The way the bow is designed is what makes the big difference btw frontier and how other boats are designed..

I have and I think the talk of the 3 footers is comical. Keep it going.

[quote=bayouchub;736903]I have and I think the talk of the 3 footers is comical. Keep it going.[/quot


Lol clearly I don't think anyone will be running/on step in 3 footers in any bay boat I'd say.

Now taking on 3 footers while maneuvering into them is the handling I'm talking about.

No. I have got very few drops of water on me.
And hell no I wasn't running wide open. In 3s but I got 35mph but like I said the were spaced out perfect.

If the wind blows right with the seas, you will get wet...


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Yes, all conditions being perfect you will get wet. It would also depend on what you consider a dry ride.

Alphaman, what wot speeds is your buddy getting with the 200 suzuki

He is still playing with Jack plate and trim settings. But so far 55 but hes still in the break in period. And conditions weren't that good for him to stay wide open and play with trim and jp.

Traveling 55mph in a boat, your covering some water very fast!

I've got a frontier 210 non-liner model have a 200 optimax. Can get 58mph loaded to fish two guys all day it will run exact rpms =mph if propped right. I've read that the 200 sho will push it to 61. I'm gonna be selling soon if your not dead set on a Yamaha or brand new.


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Im dead set on buying new

Gotcha
I think you'll definitely love that setup 200 is awesome on these boats.


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A 200 is would be nice. But speeds over 50 in a frontier is crazy fast. You really don't have enough room on the water to go 50 mph for a long period of time on the water.

With my 175 whatever my rpm are that's my speed 4000 rpm, 40mph Gas milage is great. I can go 60 miles on 12 gallons of gas crusing 35-40. IL keep you posted on the number my buddy is getting with that 200 suzuki.

Take a look at the Blue Wave Pure Bay 220. I just got the 2400 after a long extensive review and search. Florida Sportsman TV just did a series of segments on their top boat choices. The Blue Wave made the top three in both the 20-22' class and the 24-26' class. And the new taller privacy console allows more storage or the ability to add a porta potty.

I have the 300 Yamaha on mine and although not broken in yet, with three people loaded for a fishing trip we hit 58mph with a full tank of gas. And it does have the fish box step up in the front which is really a nice feature.

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My next one will do 90, plenty of space in the bay IMO


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A boat can never be "too fast" theres always that time u say man i wish it was a lil faster..... Of course your going to mostly cruise at 35-40mph but theres nothing better than doin 75Plus on the water.

Making it home is always better. I do know that go 50+ isnt safe imo.

Id love to have purebay 2200, but with what i want on it, it will be out of my budget

I talked to a dealer that sells Frontier and Bluewave. He said he liked the overall ride and performance of the Frontier more. I recently bought a Frontier with a Merc ProXS 175. It's running 52'ish. I'm being told it may loosen up a little after it's broken in. I considered going with a 200. Reason I didn't was (in my opinion) not much more power at all (especially with the "regular" 4 strokes) and it came with more weight and a steeper price tag. To really get it to scream you'd have to put the Yamaha Vmax SHO. Then you have the extra cost of the motor and jack plate since that motor is not offered in an XL shaft. That boat rigged with a Suzuki 175 is hard to beat.

Best overall performance as far as hole shot, cruise, top end with the frontier is going to be with a 200 opti or Yamaha sho. I've ran A lot of different props on mine and the
Mercury bravo 1 xs 22p is perfect on this boat with a 200 . Great holeshot, cruise, and top end also it has great bite even with my jacklplate raised at its highest setting. Just in case you go with a 200 might save you some time maximizing your prop setup.


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What motor do you have on your frontier?

I have the 200 optimax
I'd like to know how the new 200 Suzuki will perform supposed to be pretty powerful from what I've heard.


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Im looking forward to see whst i does as well. A friend of mine has one. That's one nice looking motor too.

What's your performance looking like with that 200 optimax.

I've got excellent holeshot, cruise is typically equal to rpms say around 4000 rpms is 42-43 topend loaded 58 I've touched 60 with 21p tempest plus but it just didn't have the same overall grip as the bravo1 xs.


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Another really nice boat to consider is Blazer Bay. I bought a 2170 (22 footer with no liner). Awesome boat for the money. Have a Yamaha 200 with a 10" jack plate, boat really moves. Very dry ride in the chop and can get pretty skinny when need to. For what I paid for it, I couldn't touch most of the Bay boats out there.

What kind of WOT RPM do you get with that Bravo? Do you have it on a jack plate? I see that the smallest pitch a Bravo comes in is a 22p. I can't turn that. I'm also not running a jack plate.

On a 6"atlas jp 5750 rpm it'll bump the limiter if I'm light.
Yea that 175 is a smaller block than 200 so it would be tough for you to turn a 22p. I would try a tempest plus if your not happy with your current prop. I would think you could get closer to 55mph and still have good holeshot with that engine set up right.


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I've got 55-56 once with my frontier and 175 suk.
That was 1 person 1/4 tank little gear and bouncing off the limter.
wot with 2 peeps and gear I get about 51.
I have no idea what prop. Whatever it came with. Seems to be on point.
I wouldn't mind a little more hole shot though.

I don't have a jackplate or power pole on my frontier. And WOT 1 person 1/4 tank I hit 57 but backed off bc the back end was getting squirrelly. Felt like the prop was the only thing in the water.

You will be happy with the performance of a 175. I'll be happy to give you a test run if your ever in the Lafayette area.

$4 to $5000 for 5 mph isn't worth it imo. You could put that 5 grand somewhere else.

I agree. I tried a 21p tempest. Ran 53-54 mph, but only turned up about 5400-5500 rpm. I'm currently running a Solas HR Titan 19p. Running 52-53 mph and 5700 rpm. I think I can stand to raise my motor on the transom. In my opinion, the cavitation plate is getting a little too wet. That's gonna be my next experiment. Honestly though, it's running pretty good as is. I would just like to see if it's got anymore in it. Wish Merc mounting holes were like Yamaha's. Would make it a lot easier to change motor height.

You're right to most people it isn't worth it but to me it is cruising at 45 vs 35 at a lower Rpm or even 50 @ 4900rpms is a big deal to me and doesn't work the bigger engine as hard but everyone's needs and most of all budget is different. I don't think there is a 5grand difference between a
200 opti ( $13k )and not sure on 175 zuke $.
Just throwing that out there


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I was talking about the price of the 200 sho. The suzuki 175 was 12k.

Yeah they're definitely more proud of those Yamahas.


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My best so far in my Key West 210BR with Suzuki 175, with me and my buddy 1/2 tank of fuel was 52mph. No jack plate. Suzuki 3 blade, 15" 21 pitch prop. PLENTY fast enough for me!