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BassYakR 01-22-2015 03:59 PM

We need this!!!!!!
 
Hope this passes! Id love to be able to go out to a bar/casino and have a few drinks, play pool, Gamble and not go home smelling like an ashtray. :cheers:

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Duffy.yyz 01-22-2015 04:02 PM

This is bittersweet being a musician. I hate having the headaches, smelling like a$$ and the other cons of a smoke filled bar...But you WILL lose a crowd to no smoking...At least somewhat. Luna Live does well with the rule, and the bar tends to stay full through a show. I am interested to see where this goes. Would not mind losing that smell from a night out!

BassYakR 01-22-2015 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Duffy.yyz (Post 737577)
This is bittersweet being a musician. I hate having the headaches, smelling like a$$ and the other cons of a smoke filled bar...But you WILL lose a crowd to no smoking...At least somewhat. Luna Live does well with the rule, and the bar tends to stay full through a show. I am interested to see where this goes. Would not mind losing that smell from a night out!

Yeah i can see where it MAY hurt the crowds.. but if everywhere is forced to do it it may not. Other places like Baton Rouge, Houston dont allow smoking in bars or clubs

Duffy.yyz 01-22-2015 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by BassYakR (Post 737579)
Yeah i can see where it MAY hurt the crowds.. but if everywhere is forced to do it it may not. Other places like Baton Rouge, Houston dont allow smoking in bars or clubs

You are right...The crowd around this town tends to be thin anyhow...Especially when it comes to supporting local music that is not a cover band :shaking:

BassYakR 01-22-2015 04:15 PM

Where do u play? and what kinda music? I used to always go out and support local bands at luna, AJs, Rikenjacks

Duffy.yyz 01-22-2015 04:23 PM

Luna Live, My Place, Linda's Lounge, Isle of Capri, Mary's Lounge....anywhere!

Duffy.yyz 01-22-2015 04:27 PM

Multiple bands....in liquid is the band I play with most. Sit in with CHOKE, Slim Harper, X-IT43, Trip Wamsley... All VERY different genres.

BassYakR 01-22-2015 04:34 PM

Oh ok.... awesome bro

Andy C 01-22-2015 05:02 PM

If you don't like smoking or smoke stay home!!! People smoke when they drink,gamble!! And spend more money cause they don't have to get up from a table game, or from the bar.
As a smoker I am polite about it, move or go outside. But at a hot table or a bar your on your own!!!!

There's way more crapp in the air in any "big city" to worry about smoking !!!!

mr crab 01-22-2015 05:46 PM

I think it should be left up to the business owner. If the owner thinks allowing smoking in his establishment will help his income, he oughtta be able to allow it. If he thinks allowing smoking hurts his business he oughtta be able to ban it.

BassYakR 01-22-2015 07:42 PM

Ban that ****! I love to play pool but i dont go anymore bc of how horrible the smoke is in the bars around here.

ThePinkBanana 01-22-2015 07:44 PM

People shouldn't smoke anyway. It's bad for your health. Desperately hope this happens!

redaddiction 01-22-2015 07:47 PM

Here in Lafayette there is no smoking indoors. But the establishments provide outdoor areas for smokers. That's how it should be. Smoke outdoors not indoors. Non smokers can't get away from the smoke indoors so make smokers go outside. Then that way no business should be lost.

eman 01-22-2015 08:04 PM

A local bar owner here in BR decided to go smoke free back in 2013 . he talked to all his customers and the big majority were all for it. He said he may have lost 2 -3 regular folks but the gains when the word got out that he was smoke free made it very worthwhile.

fishinpox 01-22-2015 08:13 PM

the banned smoking in bars where i grew up...still packed full of people every night , thay just have to go outside n smoke

only reason i hate going to the casino is because the a hole next to you chain smoking whos cigg is blowing in your face all night

Bdub 01-22-2015 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by redaddiction (Post 737628)
Here in Lafayette there is no smoking indoors. But the establishments provide outdoor areas for smokers. That's how it should be. Smoke outdoors not indoors. Non smokers can't get away from the smoke indoors so make smokers go outside. Then that way no business should be lost.

I used to love playing gigs in lafayette because of this...In lake charles I'd load my gear up and the next day my vehicle would smell like the bottom of an ashtray. What I noticed in lafayette is the smokers really didn't mind going outside for a few anyways.

Matt G 01-22-2015 09:23 PM

I'm kind of in the fence on this one. I don't smoke and I hate going home smelling like an ashtray or people blowing their smoke in my face like its no big deal, but part of me agrees with Crab. It should be the business owner's decision.

Ed32 01-22-2015 09:25 PM

one of the main reasons i dont go to casinos is because of the smoke. Some people may not go because they can't smoke but I think that lost business will be offset by nonsmokers going more.

Ed32 01-22-2015 09:25 PM

I think it should be left up to the business owner

irokcj5 01-22-2015 10:05 PM

dont be so willing to celebrate a business owner losing their right to run his business as he sees fit. Soon we'll be like New York city....one freedom at a time. I don't smoke and never did, but if a guy takes a chance with his money to start a business and determined he can make more with smokers, more power to him...that is called freedom, inalienable right...last time I checked that was still in the constitution.

BassYakR 01-22-2015 10:29 PM

They still have the freedom to walk outside and smoke.

irokcj5 01-22-2015 10:32 PM

Obviously your smoking something right now....it's not the smokers freedom to go outside it's the owners right to allow people to smoke....it's HIS freedom to run his business....

BassYakR 01-22-2015 10:35 PM

If it were legal i would be. :) i know what freedom u were referring to. I just cannot stand cigarettes and i happen to like to drink and play pool at a bar. But i dont go anymore bc of this. And i know Alot of ppl that are the same way.

Bdub 01-22-2015 10:37 PM

It really sucks going home smelling like that but the trick is to have enough drinks to not care! x)

BassYakR 01-22-2015 10:38 PM

I gotta have enough drinks before ill even go. Lol. But i still regret it the next day with my sinuses all screwed up

Natural Light Kid 01-22-2015 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by BassYakR (Post 737669)
If it were legal i would be. :) i know what freedom u were referring to. I just cannot stand cigarettes and i happen to like to drink and play pool at a bar. But i dont go anymore bc of this. And i know Alot of ppl that are the same way.

Go to putters. Pool and smoke free and the government didn't make them.

BassYakR 01-22-2015 10:56 PM

Perfect

Natural Light Kid 01-22-2015 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by BassYakR (Post 737667)
They still have the freedom to walk outside and smoke.

And you have the freedom to buy a pool table and stay home and drink. Sorry to be such a smart a$$ but why should big bro have to regulate this. Business owner can decide to make it smoke free if they want to, or a smoking establishment. I am afraid that you are in the minority though. This is why most bars, unless mandated, allow smoking.

Goooh 01-23-2015 12:37 AM

Nothing goes better with a good buzz than a cigrit

I don't smoke inside though when I want one, it pains me.

Business owners should make the rules, nobody else.


Sent

Paulox86 01-23-2015 06:55 AM

People in bars drinking and complaining that smoking is bad for your health. Want to save lives.....ban drinking at bars.

swamp snorkler 01-23-2015 07:07 AM

Should be left up to the busines owners.

The thing I don't like is the jackasses who stand 3' from a door with their cigarette and you have to walk though that cancer cloud to get to get to your vehicle. Move away the door numbnuts!!!!

BassYakR 01-23-2015 07:27 AM

I guess yall are right that the business owners should have the say so...... Most wont bc they are scared it could hurt business......But if they all did it wouldnt hurt business at all... Cant help that i want to be selfish as FFFFF and make it banned tho.

Lake Chuck Duck 01-23-2015 07:36 AM

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Originally Posted by ThePinkBanana (Post 737627)
People shouldn't smoke anyway. It's bad for your health. Desperately hope this happens!

Because people at bars are there for their health?

BassYakR 01-23-2015 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Lake Chuck Duck (Post 737692)
Because people at bars are there for their health?

Hey they say ONE beer a day is good for you!

Duffy.yyz 01-23-2015 08:29 AM

Cutting back
 
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Originally Posted by BassYakR (Post 737693)
Hey they say ONE beer a day is good for you!

Doc's orders

Natural Light Kid 01-23-2015 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by BassYakR (Post 737693)
Hey they say ONE beer a day is good for you!

I'm not a doctor, although I went to school long enough to be one. I agree with the one beer a day rule. I don't drink one every day so I usually make up for it. I average it out.

Natural Light Kid 01-23-2015 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Goooh (Post 737683)
Nothing goes better with a good buzz than a cigrit



Sent

Amen!

BassYakR 01-23-2015 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Natural Light Kid (Post 737710)
I'm not a doctor, although I went to school long enough to be one. I agree with the one beer a day rule. I don't drink one every day so I usually make up for it. I average it out.

Thats why i try to only drink once every two weeks... that way i can drink enough to get drunk. lol

Duffy.yyz 01-23-2015 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Natural Light Kid (Post 737672)
Go to putters. Pool and smoke free and the government didn't make them.

X2 There are bars in the area with no smoke and pool tables :work:

They also have their own version of a Darrell's po-boy..

Smalls 01-23-2015 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by irokcj5 (Post 737668)
Obviously your smoking something right now....it's not the smokers freedom to go outside it's the owners right to allow people to smoke....it's HIS freedom to run his business....

Nobody cares about the rights of the people that don't like smoking, do they?

I'm mixed on it honestly. I see the argument of it should be the business owners right, but this could very easily be argued as a public health issue. Non-smokers are just as likely to get lung cancer because of cigarette smoke as a smoker is. So if you spin this as a public health issue, is it any different than requiring a restaurant to maintain certain health standards? I mean, no one ever argues that Darrell's or Kyoto's should be able to do whatever they want in their kitchen, because it's a health issue.

chuzo 01-23-2015 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Andy C (Post 737591)
If you don't like smoking or smoke stay home!!! People smoke when they drink,gamble!! And spend more money cause they don't have to get up from a table game, or from the bar.
As a smoker I am polite about it, move or go outside. But at a hot table or a bar your on your own!!!!

There's way more crapp in the air in any "big city" to worry about smoking !!!!

And that includes politicians!!!

Fishaholic247 01-23-2015 06:50 PM

I am typing this with my formerly nicotine stained fingers......As a musician who used to smoke I applaud the non smoking bars. We spend a lot of money on equipment that ends up smelling like A@@. You, your truck, your house all smell like a bar. And as a former smoker the smell is WAY worse now. I just made 7 years cold turkey after 20+ of stinking! I remember when I sang at Pepper's every Friday and they went smoke free and I was pissed. Had to go outside on my breaks. But I smell better now!

Duffy.yyz 01-23-2015 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Fishaholic247 (Post 737789)
I am typing this with my formerly nicotine stained fingers......As a musician who used to smoke I applaud the non smoking bars. We spend a lot of money on equipment that ends up smelling like A@@. You, your truck, your house all smell like a bar. And as a former smoker the smell is WAY worse now. I just made 7 years cold turkey after 20+ of stinking! I remember when I sang at Pepper's every Friday and they went smoke free and I was pissed. Had to go outside on my breaks. But I smell better now!

You right! That smoke will do more than make your gear stink too....it'll frack it up pretty good!

fishinpox 01-23-2015 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Natural Light Kid (Post 737675)
And you have the freedom to buy a pool table and stay home and drink. Sorry to be such a smart a$$ but why should big bro have to regulate this. Business owner can decide to make it smoke free if they want to, or a smoking establishment. I am afraid that you are in the minority though. This is why most bars, unless mandated, allow smoking.

because smokers affect non smokers with second hand smoke ....

duckman1911 01-23-2015 11:49 PM

I smoke but at the same time I also don't like being in a room full of smoke. I do not smoke in my house and if I m around people that don't smoke I'll step off if I need a cig. That being said their is no way in hell big brother should be able to tell a person what they can and can't do with their own property. No I don't buy into the public health BS argument. If you think second hand smoke at a bar is bad for you and you still go then that makes you the one endangering your health not the guy having a beer and a smoke. It's not a public health issue unless it is a place the public has a reasonable obligation to use. DMV, Courthouse, Hospital etc. Places you are required to go to are public health issues. Choosing to go to a bar to have a beer then complaining about the smoke is not a public health issue. You endangered your own health by willfully choosing to go there.
Non smokers affect themselves by willing putting themselves around second hand smoke.

RyanT 01-24-2015 07:24 AM

If the owners of any establishment have rules from the government on how to operate it is usually bad and not very much a free market system at that point.

Smalls 01-24-2015 08:38 AM

Funny thing is, this was Passed by the New Orleans city council, not the distant beaurocrats in DC. The public spoke on this.

Moral is, get over it!! You can just as easily stay home and smoke, or walk outside, just as easy as you can tell nonsmokers to not go.

Fact is, if any smokers decide not to go out to these establishments, the nonsmoking public will more than likely make up for the loss. Just consider the fact that there are far more people that don't smoke than do. I doubt any business is going to suffer for long, if at all.

eman 01-24-2015 10:26 AM

Passed by the city council . BUT, they exempted Bourbon street???? Think they were afraid of the $$$ loss?

duckman1911 01-24-2015 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Smalls (Post 737833)
Funny thing is, this was Passed by the New Orleans city council, not the distant beaurocrats in DC. The public spoke on this.

Moral is, get over it!! You can just as easily stay home and smoke, or walk outside, just as easy as you can tell nonsmokers to not go.

Fact is, if any smokers decide not to go out to these establishments, the nonsmoking public will more than likely make up for the loss. Just consider the fact that there are far more people that don't smoke than do. I doubt any business is going to suffer for long, if at all.

To me the point isn't whether smokers will benefit or whether non smokers will benefit. The point is government (of any size) telling a business owner what he/she can and can't allow on their own property.
Simple fix!!!! Make it a private club. Lifetime membership is $1.00. If it's a private club it will be exempt. Nothing non smokers or smokers can do about it.
Going to a bar when you know there will be smoke then whining about it later is like shooting a handgun without ear plugs then whining because your ears are ringing. You knew what would happen yet you made the decision to do it anyway.

Natural Light Kid 01-24-2015 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by duckman1911 (Post 737853)
to me the point isn't whether smokers will benefit or whether non smokers will benefit. The point is government (of any size) telling a business owner what he/she can and can't allow on their own property.
Simple fix!!!! Make it a private club. Lifetime membership is $1.00. If it's a private club it will be exempt. Nothing non smokers or smokers can do about it.
Going to a bar when you know there will be smoke then whining about it later is like shooting a handgun without ear plugs then whining because your ears are ringing. You knew what would happen yet you made the decision to do it anyway.

👋👋👋👋bravo my man. Bravo!!👋👋👋👋


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