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BassYakR 07-10-2015 10:49 AM

Trump!
 
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keakar 07-10-2015 02:48 PM

on thing about trump, he tells the truth just like it is without being a political correct weenie about everything weather you like what he has to say or not

eman 07-10-2015 05:21 PM

Both the republicans and the democraps are scared of the Donald.

Top Dawg 07-10-2015 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by eman (Post 762953)
Both the republicans and the democraps are scared of the Donald.

Gthats a good thing.

duckman1911 07-10-2015 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Top Dawg (Post 762988)
Gthats a good thing.

On that I have to agree. Probably what we need now.

PathfinderNI 07-10-2015 09:47 PM

I Like Him!
 
Seems to be a man's man, modern day Dirty Harry. I'm getting so fed up with all the PC, Caitlyn crowd, it's time for the Donald.

BassYakR 07-10-2015 09:51 PM

I have watched alot of his interviews today and hes surely got my attention!

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irokcj5 07-10-2015 09:55 PM

Trump will never get the Republican nomination. Too many RINO's will see to it. But you know I was thinking just this morning after hearing RINO's complaining about Trump, is that he is the first guy that I can think of that can turn independent and probably get enough common sense American's vote, both Dems and Repubs. Indy's usually take away from repubs, like perot, but I think Trump's straight shooting may be able to dump both Bush and Hillary, and be the first Indy in a long time. I think an indy is what is needed in this country to clean house on both sides of the house and senate.

lilesrt 07-11-2015 11:17 AM

The nomination will go to Jeb Bush who will lose to Hillary Clinton in the presidential election, further turning our country into a tail spin. The fact that Hillary Clinton is the frontrunner to be our next commander in chief tells me more about the Republican party and our electorate than Hillary's ability to competently run the country. It is sad really.

23classic 07-11-2015 11:36 AM

Don't gI've up!
 
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Originally Posted by lilesrt (Post 763031)
The nomination will go to Jeb Bush who will lose to Hillary Clinton in the presidential election, further turning our country into a tail spin. The fact that Hillary Clinton is the frontrunner to be our next commander in chief tells me more about the Republican party and our electorate than Hillary's ability to competently run the country. It is sad really.

Attitudes like that are what will loose another election. Agreed, Bush should not be the guy, BUT, if he does get the nom, we need to turn out and vote for him so we don't elect the Last time you know what happened when folks stayed home! Work for the candidate you think is best, but in the end support the nominee, we can't afford to elect another dem right now. Bush isn't what we need, but he is a dam lot better than the Wouldn't you feel better about the country now if Romney had been elected? No doubt! I like Trump, and am getting an *** full of the Fox News folks that call him a clown and side show. I understand it from the other news outlets, but Fox is beginning to piss me off more and more. Too many ex-bushi and establishment elitist on there ! An by all means, let's keep a positive attitude and believe we can beat the not give up like the guy quoted above!

lilesrt 07-11-2015 11:52 AM

Being realistic is not "giving up". I exercise my right to vote, but at the same time realize the direction this country is turning, and the Republicans inability to reach the average swing voter. Alot of my friends thought I was crazy when I called Obama to beat Romney, and he did. By 5 million votes. Alot of voters in this country are uninformed and vote on perception, not substance or competence. IF Jeb is the nominee, he will be paralelled to G.W. Bush and THAT will be difficult to overcome. If I had my pick I'd like to see Ben Carson elected. In terms of Donald Trump, he would be better than H. Clinton, but his policies are far from conservative. He is a big government guy that is running on the Republican ticket.

eman 07-11-2015 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by lilesrt (Post 763031)
The nomination will go to Jeb Bush who will lose to Hillary Clinton in the presidential election, further turning our country into a tail spin. The fact that Hillary Clinton is the frontrunner to be our next commander in chief tells me more about the Republican party and our electorate than Hillary's ability to competently run the country. It is sad really.

I agree The powers that be have already decided who will be the next president and how it will happen.. Yes most of us will vote for bush out of necessity and fear of another democrap in office , But it really won't matter, the die has been cast.

duckman1911 07-11-2015 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by lilesrt (Post 763039)
Being realistic is not "giving up". I exercise my right to vote, but at the same time realize the direction this country is turning, and the Republicans inability to reach the average swing voter. Alot of my friends thought I was crazy when I called Obama to beat Romney, and he did. By 5 million votes. Alot of voters in this country are uninformed and vote on perception, not substance or competence. IF Jeb is the nominee, he will be paralelled to G.W. Bush and THAT will be difficult to overcome. If I had my pick I'd like to see Ben Carson elected. In terms of Donald Trump, he would be better than H. Clinton, but his policies are far from conservative. He is a big government guy that is running on the Republican ticket.

Carson is a good man but has made some gun comments over the years that I am uneasy with. Granted you will never agree with someone on everything but the gun issue is huge for me. I'm still waiting and watching. Trump has some balls and that's good. I like the F you if you don't like it honesty he has. If he was the choice I think he could pull a lot of indy and lbrtrn votes.

23classic 07-11-2015 02:40 PM

I'm not going to get in a discussion with a someone who is beaten before the race is run. This will be all I have to say. Being realistic as you say is not giving up, but in fact you and others like you have given up! The margin of obama's victory over Romney resulted from folks that voted for McCain staying home. Obama could have been beat by a candidate that pulled the stops and went after him, McCain didnt want to offend anyone and actually was harder on other republicans than he was on obama. Romney had a lead in the polls after the first debate when he took it to obama, then he turned around and played nice guy in the next 2 debates, played defense and played not to loose instead of playing to win and lost the election. You, Mr Realist , have done the same, you have realisticly conceded the election before a nominee is even selected. And the voters that stayed home last time had the same attitude as you. That's why the bastard in the whitehouse was elected to a second term. We need people that love this country and are willing to fight and lay it on the line for our future. People with defeatist attitudes, like yours, that claim to be realist are losers and bring nothing to the table. Instead of conceding in a public forum, why not try to pump up like minded voters to get out and fight. Not put out your crap and conceded defeat before the runners get in the blocks. If you are going to get involved and are truly a person that loves this country as you portray yourself to be, and not a liberal trying to discourage participation , change your attitude, pull up your pants and get in the fight! If not just ****!

lilesrt 07-11-2015 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by 23classic (Post 763056)
I'm not going to get in a discussion with a someone who is beaten before the race is run. This will be all I have to say. Being realistic as you say is not giving up, but in fact you and others like you have given up! The margin of obama's victory over Romney resulted from folks that voted for McCain staying home. Obama could have been beat by a candidate that pulled the stops and went after him, McCain didnt want to offend anyone and actually was harder on other republicans than he was on obama. Romney had a lead in the polls after the first debate when he took it to obama, then he turned around and played nice guy in the next 2 debates, played defense and played not to loose instead of playing to win and lost the election. You, Mr Realist , have done the same, you have realisticly conceded the election before a nominee is even selected. And the voters that stayed home last time had the same attitude as you. That's why the bastard in the whitehouse was elected to a second term. We need people that love this country and are willing to fight and lay it on the line for our future. People with defeatist attitudes, like yours, that claim to be realist are losers and bring nothing to the table. Instead of conceding in a public forum, why not try to pump up like minded voters to get out and fight. Not put out your crap and conceded defeat before the runners get in the blocks. If you are going to get involved and are truly a person that loves this country as you portray yourself to be, and not a liberal trying to discourage participation , change your attitude, pull up your pants and get in the fight! If not just ****!

I must say I do admire your passion. Who do you think, Jeb Bush aside, would be the best republican candidate to get elected as president? Honest question.

lilesrt 07-11-2015 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by duckman1911 (Post 763055)
Carson is a good man but has made some gun comments over the years that I am uneasy with. Granted you will never agree with someone on everything but the gun issue is huge for me. I'm still waiting and watching. Trump has some balls and that's good. I like the F you if you don't like it honesty he has. If he was the choice I think he could pull a lot of indy and lbrtrn votes.

I would vote for D. Trump over Hillary any day of the week. It amazes me that a failed one-term Secretary of State is even the democratic front runner to begin with. Alot of people tend to think that Washington is broken. Washington is a well oiled machine built of lobbiest, special interest groups, and wealthy "career" politicians. Ben Carson is NOT a politician, which I think is his strongest quality.

eman 07-11-2015 03:03 PM

No one has given up . except the republican party. how come the dems can run 1 maybe 2 candidates w/ one favorite who gets the backing of the whole party.
Where as the republican party as of yesterday has 16 candidates most w/o a chance in hell to be elected sniping at each other while all the dems have to do is focus on he top 2 or 3 and let the repubs take down the rest.
I am a staunch right wing libertarian . military veteran and oathkeeper . Surprised? In my close to 60 years on Gods earth i have seen presidents go from military veterans (most w/ some morals ) To law school graduated pretty boys that are more worried about the almighty dollar and how to get re elected than they are about you or me or the people of the USA.
the die was cast long ago to get control of the voting majority by getting them to be slaves to the new master. the government. right now they are about 50%. we saw it in both of the last 2 elections elections that they spread the fear that if we elect a republican that they will loose all there benefits. It worked then and it will work again as there more sheeple than there are of us that know what is going on and care enough to fight it. You can rally around and vote for who you want ( i know i will ) but as a student of politics IMHO the die has been cast and the nominees have already been decided. I hope and pray that i am wrong. But i haven't been in a long while.

23classic 07-11-2015 03:38 PM

Honest answer, I don't have a favorite. I do have a few that I think should just get out before they spoil the well. Bush, Huckabee, Christie, Santorum, Jindal, and the biggest bozo Graham! I believe Huckabee, Christie, Santorum and Graham will be the biggest violators of RR's 11th commandment, while bush will sit by and let everyone else hammer each other. I believe Santorum and Christie did as much to hurt Romney as any democrat or media outlet. Neither should be considered as they didn't put it out there to get obama out. I like Dr Carson, Carley isn't afraid to have a cat fight with the Walker has beat the crap out of the dems and unions 3 or 4 times. Ted seems to be a true believer in the founding principles. Paul ?? Marco? Too young? Plus he **** himself with the imagination crap, I don't think he can dig out from that and be the nominee just yet, VP maybe? I'm just not sure yet. But I promise I will put what cash I can spare and do whatever I can to get one of these guys in. I would love to see these guys get together and do what's best for the country, not what's best for themselves. Maybe put together a cabinet, not just pick a running mate, let the country see the entire team and real policies and plans to get things back on track. They need to stay away from the imagination trap, just run on securing the border! Looks like Mr Trump hit a nerve with a big portion of the electorate with that? ,

duckman1911 07-11-2015 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by lilesrt (Post 763059)
I would vote for D. Trump over Hillary any day of the week. It amazes me that a failed one-term Secretary of State is even the democratic front runner to begin with. Alot of people tend to think that Washington is broken. Washington is a well oiled machine built of lobbiest, special interest groups, and wealthy "career" politicians. Ben Carson is NOT a politician, which I think is his strongest quality.

This is true. The same was said about Hermain Cane and he got hamstringed. I think what scares both sides about DT is he doesn't need other peoples money. He doesn't need to ask for cash in return for favors if he wins. He can pay the bills on his own. Dc isn't used to someone that doesn't need to buy special interests.

23classic 07-11-2015 03:46 PM

Wow phone call on my spelling already. Immigration not imagination. But I know all you guys knew what I meant, the friend that called me is a democrat. Been working on him a long time, but he comes from a long line of dems, so it's a real challenge. You go brother oath keeper. I pray a lot too. GOD bless America! Locked and loaded, steadfast and loyal.

duckman1911 07-11-2015 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by eman (Post 763060)
No one has given up . except the republican party. how come the dems can run 1 maybe 2 candidates w/ one favorite who gets the backing of the whole party.
Where as the republican party as of yesterday has 16 candidates most w/o a chance in hell to be elected sniping at each other while all the dems have to do is focus on he top 2 or 3 and let the repubs take down the rest.
I am a staunch right wing libertarian . military veteran and oathkeeper . Surprised? In my close to 60 years on Gods earth i have seen presidents go from military veterans (most w/ some morals ) To law school graduated pretty boys that are more worried about the almighty dollar and how to get re elected than they are about you or me or the people of the USA.
the die was cast long ago to get control of the voting majority by getting them to be slaves to the new master. the government. right now they are about 50%. we saw it in both of the last 2 elections elections that they spread the fear that if we elect a republican that they will loose all there benefits. It worked then and it will work again as there more sheeple than there are of us that know what is going on and care enough to fight it. You can rally around and vote for who you want ( i know i will ) but as a student of politics IMHO the die has been cast and the nominees have already been decided. I hope and pray that i am wrong. But i haven't been in a long while.

Well said and exactly correct sir.

lil bubba 07-11-2015 03:57 PM

The reason hillarious is a frontrunner is because she is a woman....Same as obummer it was the in thing to do to elect a african muslim.....Its the in thing to do and hillarious will get the votes from the generation that knows no better.....Its the in thing to do to vote a woman president and the entitlements will flow.....

scott craft 07-11-2015 04:33 PM

I haven't been paying close attention to everything Trump has said, so is it true he wants to build a wall along the border to secure it?

duckman1911 07-11-2015 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by scott craft (Post 763071)
I haven't been paying close attention to everything Trump has said, so is it true he wants to build a wall along the border to secure it?

IDK but I like the idea. Hell we'll get Mexicans to build it. Just make sure they work from the south side of the wall :)

keakar 07-11-2015 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by scott craft (Post 763071)
I haven't been paying close attention to everything Trump has said, so is it true he wants to build a wall along the border to secure it?

not only that but he said he would shut down all trade with mexico into the united states until mexico built the wall at their expense and secured the border from their side and if they didn't want to do that, then he would cut all ties and trade with mexico permanently.

I do agree with him this isn't an American problem, its a Mexican problem from not securing the borders and actually encouraging illegals to cross into the united states.

the immigration problem is just like the drug problem in that you cant stop illegal drugs as long as there is a big demand for them and likewise you cant stop illegal border crossings unless both sides of the border are working equally hard to stop it. the US cannot secure the border by itself, mexico must actively help to secure it from their side too.

scott craft 07-11-2015 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by keakar (Post 763077)
not only that but he said he would shut down all trade with mexico into the united states until mexico built the wall at their expense and secured the border from their side and if they didn't want to do that, then he would cut all ties and trade with mexico permanently.

I do agree with him this isn't an American problem, its a Mexican problem from not securing the borders and actually encouraging illegals to cross into the united states.

the immigration problem is just like the drug problem in that you cant stop illegal drugs as long as there is a big demand for them and likewise you cant stop illegal border crossings unless both sides of the border are working equally hard to stop it. the US cannot secure the border by itself, mexico must actively help to secure it from their side too.


I'm sure that's going to work well. Then what's he going to do, load all 11 million illegals that are in the country right now on buses and take them back to Mexico?

eman 07-11-2015 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by scott craft (Post 763079)
I'm sure that's going to work well. Then what's he going to do, load all 11 million illegals that are in the country right now on buses and take them back to Mexico?

If he thought it was doable he would. but you can bet your butt that there would be no release of any illegal aliens that are charged w/ a crime.
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Goooh 07-11-2015 07:42 PM

There would be a hole every quarter mile in that wall, and that wouldn't matter because there are already tunnels and would be even more.

eman 07-11-2015 07:49 PM

Tunnels are very easy to find IF they WANT to find them . GPR can be towed behind a 4wd and cover many miles of border in a day. they can build a triple fence on the border like the new prisons have . 3 - 16 ' fences and the middle one is charged w/ high voltage .

eman 07-12-2015 07:51 AM

http://personalliberty.com/heres-why...-at-all-costs/

THIS says it all about why they are scared to death of Donald trump.

irokcj5 07-12-2015 09:24 AM

I'm watching Trump with a lot of interest. When he first got in the running, I thought he was a joke....but after hearing his passion, I'm really starting to wonder if he is the one that can turn this country around and get back to the constitution and rule of law. He is starting to remind me of the rich men of our forefathers who loved country more than their wealth and risked all to have a free country. I think the article above nails it good. The media makes Trump sound like an idiot, but they are only trying to deflect and change the story. He is only speaking what most regular Americans are asking. I really think he should start running as an independent so that the media cannot pigeon hole him as one of many crazy republicans. If he runs as an independent and starts trying to get blue collar democrats (there's a lot out there), conservative republicans, independents, and libertarians. We may be seeing history in the making, and a guy that I never liked much, may be seen 100 years from now as one of the Great Americans in History.

duckman1911 07-12-2015 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by eman (Post 763125)
http://personalliberty.com/heres-why...-at-all-costs/

THIS says it all about why they are scared to death of Donald trump.

NICE!!!!!!

ski 07-12-2015 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by 23classic (Post 763035)
Attitudes like that are what will loose another election. Agreed, Bush should not be the guy, BUT, if he does get the nom, we need to turn out and vote for him so we don't elect the Last time you know what happened when folks stayed home! Work for the candidate you think is best, but in the end support the nominee, we can't afford to elect another dem right now. Bush isn't what we need, but he is a dam lot better than the Wouldn't you feel better about the country now if Romney had been elected? No doubt! I like Trump, and am getting an *** full of the Fox News folks that call him a clown and side show. I understand it from the other news outlets, but Fox is beginning to piss me off more and more. Too many ex-bushi and establishment elitist on there ! An by all means, let's keep a positive attitude and believe we can beat the not give up like the guy quoted above!

Bush, Rubio, or Christie get the nod and I,m voting straight Dem ticket for the first time in my life outta spite. Gave em their majority and what have they done with it so far? Given big 0 every thing he wants. Screw em!

scott craft 07-12-2015 08:46 PM

I'd like to hear other things from Trump like how he intends to cut spending or his foreign policy ideas. Securing the border sounds good and it's easy to get on that bandwagon, but I don't think our country can realistically afford to do it with the massive amounts of debt we have right now.

irokcj5 07-12-2015 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by ski (Post 763208)
Bush, Rubio, or Christie get the nod and I,m voting straight Dem ticket for the first time in my life outta spite. Gave em their majority and what have they done with it so far? Given big 0 every thing he wants. Screw em!

Thats why a good 3rd party can win this time! The avg democrats don't like their choices either, and most repubs are just power hungry and don't have any convictions other than selfish.... they just want to be in office. Word to the wise, lets let this whole thing play out for a few months and don't let the media, including FOX persuade your thinking. do your research on each candidate. In the end Ski, I'm with you. I WILL NOT vote for an established Republican. A sinking ship is still sinking.

lilesrt 07-12-2015 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by scott craft (Post 763210)
I'd like to hear other things from Trump like how he intends to cut spending or his foreign policy ideas. Securing the border sounds good and it's easy to get on that bandwagon, but I don't think our country can realistically afford to do it with the massive amounts of debt we have right now.

Donald Trump has no intention on cutting spending. He is a big government guy. His justification is "make the country rich" so that we can afford big spending. As a fiscal and social conservative, the only way D. Trump gets my vote is for damage control sake. He would be alot better than H. Clinton or Bernie Sanders. Personally, Ben Carson is who I support. The thought of Jeb Bush getting the nomination makes my stomach turn, but I think it is a greater than 50% chance that it happens, unfortunately.

duckman1911 07-12-2015 09:44 PM

I do think Trump like any other is out to make $. I also know Trump is a business man and he knows the company has to make money if he wants to make money. We need to get the dollar back on top and I think he knows best how to do it.

Goooh 07-12-2015 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by lilesrt (Post 763218)
Donald Trump has no intention on cutting spending. He is a big government guy. His justification is "make the country rich" so that we can afford big spending. As a fiscal and social conservative, the only way D. Trump gets my vote is for damage control sake. He would be alot better than H. Clinton or Bernie Sanders. Personally, Ben Carson is who I support. The thought of Jeb Bush getting the nomination makes my stomach turn, but I think it is a greater than 50% chance that it happens, unfortunately.


Our founding fathers were staunch business men, and we wouldn't be the country we are today if it weren't for them being driven by the need and know how how to make money.

Making money and managing it go hand in hand, ain't no shame in having someone that chases the wealth and prosperity of the country as a whole - whether it be through cutting spending, or increasing the inflow, or both.

BassYakR 07-13-2015 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Goooh (Post 763224)
Our founding fathers were staunch business men, and we wouldn't be the country we are today if it weren't for them being driven by the need and know how how to make money.

Making money and managing it go hand in hand, ain't no shame in having someone that chases the wealth and prosperity of the country as a whole - whether it be through cutting spending, or increasing the inflow, or both.

This may be the first time ive ever agreed with something you have said!

lilesrt 07-13-2015 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Goooh (Post 763224)
Our founding fathers were staunch business men, and we wouldn't be the country we are today if it weren't for them being driven by the need and know how how to make money.

Making money and managing it go hand in hand, ain't no shame in having someone that chases the wealth and prosperity of the country as a whole - whether it be through cutting spending, or increasing the inflow, or both.

There is no doubt that D. Trump would do great things for this country in terms of economic growth and foreign trade, etc.. My point was that just because he is running as a Republican candidate doesn't mean he is conservative. My personal belief supports the notion that government is best when it is limited. Donald Trump's philosophy is quite different. With that said, he would be better than Jeb Bush, or any other establishment candidate in the running.

marty f 07-13-2015 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by eman (Post 763125)
http://personalliberty.com/heres-why...-at-all-costs/

THIS says it all about why they are scared to death of Donald trump.

Wish every American could see this.

I don't do facebook but can someone post this in their account to get the word out?

eman 07-13-2015 05:48 PM

OOOOOoooooo it gets better and better

http://www.westernjournalism.com/ben...ent=2015-07-13

marty f 07-13-2015 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by eman (Post 763305)
OOOOOoooooo it gets better and better

http://www.westernjournalism.com/ben...ent=2015-07-13

Trump/Carson ticket= a better America

Dogface 07-13-2015 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by marty f (Post 763310)
Trump/Carson ticket= a better America

Agreed!!!!

lilesrt 07-13-2015 07:32 PM

Trump could work on economic growth and immigration reform, while Carson works on healing the divisiveness in our country. Now that is a recipe for success!


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