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Mount Cecil the Lion ?
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Top left pic would be my choice.

Lol. I dare you post this to PETA site?

Yea, I like that one too.

lol

i feel bad for that dentist, a few months back my business facebook page got attacked by anti hunters , i recieved death threats in nessage on fb and emails, 100's of posts bashing me on my fb . it was insane!

mine all started when i commented on a photo of a lion mount on my taxidermists facebook page , the antis saw my comment , researched that i was a business owner and bam they went to town . heres a pic of the lion my taxidermist mounted and cause me so much drama

PETA=People Eating Tasty Animals

when i posted this pic on fb while i was hunting in africa with the caption yes or no? above it , i had a client comment "you're fired" lol

That's so awesome. lol


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Hunt or don't hunt, get over it!! Dang what is wrong with people now days!!! They hate it till it's a cat or gater eating there dog or kid, and then it's ok to shoot them????? That's bs!!!!!!

My life dream is to get a room full of anti hunters and peta people !! Lock the door and send it like 5 tigers and lions who have not eaten in a week

Give them a gun with 1 bullet and see if

1) they shoot a lion for other ones to eat
2) shoot another person for lions to eat
3) shoot there Self
4) can't get safety off

Did y'all see the poor guys Yelp page? Those idiots tore it up. Stupid comments like, "He uses the profits from his practice to kill animals." Well of course he does. It's money HE EARNED. He can do whatever the Hell he wants to with it. He can be using it to snort coke off of a hookers @$$ crack for all I care. More power to him.

That sucks Pox. I wouldn't want to work for some yuppie that will criticize me for my hobbies instead of my work.

just put em in my trophy room lol

yea in the long run they didnt fire me but man i caught some major crap over it

I bet Ted nugget wakes up every am and opens a beer just to read his anti hunters emails
How fun

Wonder how lion taste...... Not knocking you guys... However I hunt to put food on the table not for the sport to kill and stuff....I teach my kids if we cannot eat it and it is not life threatening.....let it walk for the next generation.....if I want the sport side I grab a football and play with kids in my back yard....however to each their own

It taste great to village people who are about 60lbs wet

Was the lion killed legally? They're trying to make it sound like he poached it.

The lion was 13 years old. He was fixing to die, according to statistics, of natural causes as their life expectancy is 10-14 years. I would rather see the hunter pay 50k, of which plenty is given to conservation, the meat is donated instead of ole Cecil dying naturally and becoming bait for other lions.

My black lab is 13 years old, I am not running outside to pop a cap in her a$$ to stuff her..... And you dreaming if a penny will go to the Wild life conservation... my .02... I am going back to reading fishing reports....

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I would think shooting your pet really don't compare to this but..
It is widely known and publicized that without paid hunts in Africa, there would be no hunting in Africa bc of poaching etc.

No I am done.....it is hard..however I am done....:rotfl:

God I have already drank way to nuch to comment on this post


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One group of Americans are killing babies and selling parts

And 1 guy killed a lion

I would love to shoot a lion

And it was 100% legal

We had some animal rights wackos around the farm when I raised cattle in Ohio. They would open the gates and let our cattle out, "rescue" our dogs, and climb up in our deer stands and take a #2 right before deer season started. They made life difficult in a number of ways. Eventually, improved security and mindfulness put an end to the nonsense, but it was a major annoyance and could have been very difficult. Fortunately, a local deputy who knew how to handle cattle drove past right as the cattle got loose, called me immediately and was well on the way to getting them back in by the time I got there.

I bet you killed snakes , lizards, bees, whasp, mosquito

And did it bother you ?

If it's true, I'm not sure I'm ok with the fact that this lion was part of a study and had a collar, and that the hunters/guides removed the collar which is illegal from what I understand.

It seems they may have lured the Lion off of the park/preserve/whatever and knew they did something wrong because they had various stories on where it was killed, plus the Zimbabwe police locked them up - apparently it wasn't as clear cut as it should have been.

I won't pass opinion until the facts are out on how it went down, if what they did was illegal and wasn't part of conservation then he deserves to be chastised.

If you call luring the Lion with a dead gazelle then yes they did . Just like we do ducks with decoys !

Or better example how do ASR in the sports bar

Dont have one licking his nuts?

To answer your question....if it is threatening me or my family.....then it is a dead SOB....caught many snakes and turn them loose to eat and scare the sh$t out of someone else....

Have you been on a wildlife conservation? Most of these animals are so tame they eat right out of your hand......like shooting fish in a barrel......great challenge and sport:shaking:

When I go deer hunting in Texas its the best thing ever !! I pour corn out and wait 10mins
Pick out deer !! Smoke it down and have sausage, backstrap, deer roast and it hurts my feeling 1 bit on how hard it was to kill it




But I believe every animal should have a fighting chance so before I pour my corn I write on the bag and stick it up around pile

If you eat this corn you might get shot !

Exactly Gooch.....that is the part I am have a hard time with...he was part of a research study,and trusted human....might not been someone pet...however he was very close....name and a collar......dam I am back on this thread again....

The point is you ate your kill..... Not skinned it and left the meat to go to waste...


Did they open the gate and let the deer out of the cage? Please tell me your hunting skills do not suck that bad....

Who names a Freaken Lion ??? Really it's a damn Lion

Who cares ??? Why do Americas worry about the most stupidest **** ever imaginable ??

You ever killed a duck with a tag on it ? Or a fish with a tag on it ? Who cares dude paid 50k to shoot a Freaken Lion and he did


Why do we Judge people ?

30 people were murdered in Chicago this past weekend ! Worry about that stuff not a damn legal killed Animal from another damn country

[QUOTE=Matt G;765726]Did y'all see the poor guys Yelp page? Those idiots tore it up. Stupid comments like, "He uses the profits from his practice to kill animals." Well of course he does. It's money HE EARNED. He can do whatever the Hell he wants to with it. He can be using it to snort coke off of a hookers @$$ crack for all I care. More power to him.



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First of all, the kill was not legal. I believe that was established. No quota was set for lions in that district. I believe the PH even smashed the collar that was on the lion.

The dentist is getting the ****ty end of the deal. He did nothing wrong other than to trust a PH that was not on the up and up.

I have nothing against hunting big game like lions. Just something I will never do. Those nut job antis kill me, man. Don't have the first clue about the benefits of hunting to wildlife. If only those idiots realized that without hunters, THERE WOULD BE NO WILDLIFE!!

ok here my .02$

ive hunted in africa , i have first hand seen what hunter dollars do for the community, for conservation , and for education . if there is no monetary value placed on "game" then the locals will either 1) hunt the animal into extinction or 2) try to kill very last animal off that is seen as competition to their cattle and sheep . one of the areas i hunted in africa was once farm land and nearly all of the native game was wiped out by farmers UNTIL hunter dollars ( primarily U.S. hunter dollars) was pumped into this area so fences could be removed , native wildlife re introduced and MANAGED . it is all about the management . just this one area has had easily 20-30,000,000.00 dollars put into it by an american , not including all the money generated by hunters once it was made huntable again. the outfit i hunted with has started a CHRISTIAN school that is FREE or cost very little to have local children their, i have seen the school first hand and have made financial commitments to provide a christian education to a local girl my wife and i have adopted ...again hunter dollars going back into the community . for all the people that say i only shoot what i eat , ok thats fine that is your choice but again i have first hand experience watching every part of EVERY animal i shot in africa get eaten / used and for the most part get used by someone who is living in poverty like you could never imagine. Generally when "trophy" hunting the hunter is seeking a large animal , usually the largest ( horned )animals animals are also the oldest . but hunters shooting the oldest ( usually the dominant male) they are actually helping allow newer , younger blood to breed .
Now to talk about the way this animal was hunted ... people are complaining saying it was lured out of a protected area , maybe so BUT 99% of lion hunts are hunts invloving baiting a lion to come in so you can kill it , did the hunter know it was lured in from a national park ? who knows. ive read that this guy paid 55,000.00 for this hunt , i also know he is an avid hunter , this amount of a trophy fee usually goes along with a free range lion hunt not a high fenced hunt ( which most of the lion hunts in africa are but the fenced hunts a usually cheaper ) . now the tracking collar , did the hunter see it before he shot? if so shame on him , but i can see how it would be hard to see as that lion has a massive mane . the mane also points to something else , free range lions do not look as "pretty" or full maned as cecil does , they generally have more scaring on their face / body and the manes are not as full UNLESS if they are raised in captivity . did the hunter know this? again who knows, all i can do is speak from my personal experiences .

Hunting Rhino's saved the Rhino populations. Farmers didn't care about poachers killing a Rhino for its horn. Bring in American entrepreneurs who suddenly made these Rhino very valuable and the farmers stood up to the poachers. Something Governments, police forces, military forces, animal control agencies, conservation groups COULD NOT DO. AMERICAN hunters are responsible for the rebound for trophy hunting.

Having managed hunts of these large animals has made conservation efforts work because the people are actually getting money in their pockets from the hunts. Every other way was pissing money in the wind.

I was thinking if he shot it with a cross-bow he was closs enough to see the color, never thought about the mane covering it, good point.

Regardless of whether he saw the collar, the PH was arrested for not having a permit and no quota. The hunt was illegal.

Also, Dr. Palmer has been previously convicted of illegal hunting. Killed a black bear and then falsified where he killed it.

I'm not against these hunts. I am against dirtbags that give hunters a bad name. And this guy is starting to look like a dirtbag. Why did he try to say the bear was killed somewhere else? Why didn't he check to make sure the PH and farmer had all the necessary permits? What about that quota: could he have determined if there was a quota in that area?

Too many questions right now, but the fact that this guy has had issues in the past puts me off.

I agree, based off what I've heard it sounds like illegal poaching . Now the question is did the hunter know?

I like how everyone on Facebook became exotic game extraordinaire over night...

Man that is every time. And the morons don't even educate themselves. A few months ago when there was all the rage over a northern black rhino being shot, no one looked up the status of the rhino. They just ran with black rhino.

"Oh it's endangered".

"I can't believe someone would kill an endangered species."

Newsflash Facebook warriors, the Northern black rhino is not endangered.

Same thing with that Texas Tech Cheerleader that goes and hunts lions and tigers. None of the species she was hunting and posing with were endangered. But people believe what some website says, and run with it.

I wonder how many of these people are doing anything for the conservation of these species?

My guess: not very many.

here's my .02 which i'm sure is against all popular belief.... i hunt everything possible in this state ducks(all the time), squirrels(all the time), deer occasionally, doves, rabbits, woodcock, and even snipe now and then but........ Even though i dont argue killing "Lions" or "giraffes", i have ZERO urge to shoot those animals unless it would be self-defense which clearly wont ever happen........ I just dont get why ppl would care to spend money to hunt those animals/want to kill them

These people, Ive seen more people all offended that a guy killed a lion on another continent than people that were offended that a muslim kills 5 of our soldiers on american soil. Just pisses me off.

It seems to me like the PH may have knowingly violated the law, but there has been no evidence to show that the American hunter knew his guide was setting up an illegal hunt.

Is an American angler breaking the law if he steps onto a guide's boat and the guide takes him to a spot that is in provate water and they are trespassing? I don't think so. There is a legal concept called mens rae.

Another example in American law would be a guide taking a customer to hunt waterfowl over a baited field. Should the customer be found guilty if the guide knew the field was baited but the customer was simply tricked by the guide?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mens_rea

Customers trust their guides to keep them in compliance with the local laws.

I may be in the minority, but I feel at least that it is my responsibility to ask those questions. Does the PH have the necessary paperwork? Is there a quota? If he lies, then its the old "fool me once, shame on you" situation.

Maybe he did ask those things, I don't know. But again, Palmer's record speaks for itself. He has violated hunting laws in the past. Is that an indication that he knowingly did anything wrong here? No. But I believe he isn't going to get the benefit of the doubt like someone who has never broken a law before.

Also, if he killed a lion when there was no quota or limit, then yes, he did break the law, whether the PH deceived him or not. I'm sure there is a government agency that he could have checked with to determine if there were quotas for the given area. And again, maybe he did check that, and he was deceived. I'm not sure how the system works over there, but it would seem he could have found out some of this information.

Would you go on a sandhill crane hunt in Louisiana without first determining whether you could legally kill a sandhill crane in Louisiana? I wouldn't. If I just assumed because you can kill them in Texas that you can kill them in Louisiana, I would be wrong.

To me, its no different than buying something. You research it first before you buy it. If you still get screwed in the end, then at least you did your research and thought you were making a good purchase. There will always be deceiving people in the world. You just have to try and defend yourself against them.