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C-Bass2mouth 08-12-2015 09:12 AM

Lost lease
 
Got word yesterday that we were out bid and lost our lease. I know there are a few other guys on this site that had blinds on that property as well. It was nice while it lasted fellas. Thanks again BigHutch for last season, a lot of memories made. Yall scoot over on the public land, coming in hot.

Crawl79 08-12-2015 09:21 AM

Sorry to hear that. Good luck on public land and hopefully everyone there will treat you as you treat them.

BloodKnot 08-12-2015 09:32 AM

The lease price jumped 4 and 5 times of the previous bids for the school board. Prices are getting stupid. Some of the places can only support 4 blinds max and the bids are over $30,000!

BassYakR 08-12-2015 09:34 AM

rich mans sport

capt coonassty 08-12-2015 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by BloodKnot (Post 768228)
The lease price jumped 4 and 5 times of the previous bids for the school board. Prices are getting stupid. Some of the places can only support 4 blinds max and the bids are over $30,000!

Must have lions on that property.

ckinchen 08-12-2015 09:59 AM

Two went for 35K one went for 55K. Wow.

C-Bass2mouth 08-12-2015 10:14 AM

Getting a non-resident TX & KS license also. A few lakes in TX I used to do well on, and my little brother just moved to KS on a baseball scholarship so I have a place to crash and someone to scout before hand. It'll be a learning experience for sure. Been a while since I actually had to scout and work for em.

all star rod 08-12-2015 10:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ckinchen (Post 768237)
Two went for 35K one went for 55K. Wow.

How many acres for each lease?

ckinchen 08-12-2015 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by all star rod (Post 768245)
How many acres for each lease?

Around 640. I will be the first to admit I bid on one of them and thought I bid a crazy amount. Not crazy enough, lol

meaux fishing 08-12-2015 10:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by all star rod (Post 768245)
How many acres for each lease?

a section. 640 acres

all star rod 08-12-2015 10:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by meaux fishing (Post 768247)
a section. 640 acres

I am surprised Vermillion Crop does not start doing this (seal bid) for all their Pecan Island leases...

Crawl79 08-12-2015 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by C-Bass2mouth (Post 768242)
Getting a non-resident TX & KS license also. A few lakes in TX I used to do well on, and my little brother just moved to KS on a baseball scholarship so I have a place to crash and someone to scout before hand. It'll be a learning experience for sure. Been a while since I actually had to scout and work for em.

I hunt KS for turkey. Allot of WIHA property to hunt. See a bunch of ducks there in spring and non of the locals have ever eaten a duck much less hunted one...

Nickt87 08-12-2015 11:12 AM

After hearing what sections went for Monday at the bid I can pretty much close the casket on me leasing any marshes around SWLA for a long time. Increases 2,3 and 4xs since last time it was available. Over it!

Duck Butter 08-12-2015 12:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BloodKnot (Post 768228)
The lease price jumped 4 and 5 times of the previous bids for the school board. Prices are getting stupid. Some of the places can only support 4 blinds max and the bids are over $30,000!

Got some blinds near Monroe that go for $15k and you will be 1/4 mile from another blind. Waiting list to get in also. Used to be decent hunting now blinds are too close and its a garhole. Landowner has a nice blind way away from any other ones thoigh:grinpimp:

meaux fishing 08-12-2015 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Duck Butter (Post 768262)
Got some blinds near Monroe that go for $15k and you will be 1/4 mile from another blind. Waiting list to get in also. Used to be decent hunting now blinds are too close and its a garhole. Landowner has a nice blind way away from any other ones thoigh:grinpimp:

Daves Bayou?

Duck Butter 08-12-2015 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by meaux fishing (Post 768264)
Daves Bayou?

Hwy 15. Elton kennedys place

meaux fishing 08-12-2015 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Duck Butter (Post 768267)
Hwy 15. Elton kennedys place

yeah ive heard about how bad it is over there. Lots of the spots in that area are waaaayy over priced for the quality of the hunting

Reggoh 08-12-2015 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Crawl79 (Post 768252)
I hunt KS for turkey. Allot of WIHA property to hunt. See a bunch of ducks there in spring and non of the locals have ever eaten a duck much less hunted one...

It's odd how different things are in the midwest for ducks and geese. I was working in Wyoming a few years ago and we had no problems asking landowners for permission to duck and goose hunt... no one tried to charge us and everyone we asked said yes.

They were not as friendly when asked about antelope and deer hunting... haha.

C-Bass2mouth 08-12-2015 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Reggoh (Post 768298)
It's odd how different things are in the midwest for ducks and geese. I was working in Wyoming a few years ago and we had no problems asking landowners for permission to duck and goose hunt... no one tried to charge us and everyone we asked said yes.

They were not as friendly when asked about antelope and deer hunting... haha.


Yea they like their pheasants too. I've got the little bro collecting names and addresses of well known land owners around his area as we speak. A ton of public land up there also. Gotta step my thermal underwear game up though

capt coonassty 08-12-2015 03:56 PM

Always bring seafood. Nothing like sweetening a deal for them northers like some fresh shrimp. A guy I was talking to says a land owner calls and asks him to come back every year just to get some seafood.

Crawl79 08-12-2015 03:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reggoh (Post 768298)
It's odd how different things are in the midwest for ducks and geese. I was working in Wyoming a few years ago and we had no problems asking landowners for permission to duck and goose hunt... no one tried to charge us and everyone we asked said yes.

They were not as friendly when asked about antelope and deer hunting... haha.

If you ask local farmers to turkey hunt they normally tell you yes but only if you shoot them all and not just the ones you are going to tag and bring home.

Crawl79 08-12-2015 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by C-Bass2mouth (Post 768300)
Yea they like their pheasants too. I've got the little bro collecting names and addresses of well known land owners around his area as we speak. A ton of public land up there also. Gotta step my thermal underwear game up though

Merino wool, only way to go for me. Especially if you are deer hunting and worried about smell.

Crawl79 08-12-2015 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by C-Bass2mouth (Post 768300)
Yea they like their pheasants too. I've got the little bro collecting names and addresses of well known land owners around his area as we speak. A ton of public land up there also. Gotta step my thermal underwear game up though

Last fall I found some good coveys of quail and a few pheasants while bow hunting in Nebraska seems they are making a comeback.
I have a GSP pup and hoping I can bring her on morning bird hunting and evening bow hunting trip to midwest.

Crawl79 08-12-2015 04:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by capt coonassty (Post 768305)
Always bring seafood. Nothing like sweetening a deal for them northers like some fresh shrimp. A guy I was talking to says a land owner calls and asks him to come back every year just to get some seafood.


Last year our contact there was impressed the most with my homemade Tasso but he specifically requested seafood. He and his wife go to the local bar and grill weekly for fried carp night.
I had to laugh at eating carp but told him could bring him some flounder and what ever else I could fit in the big ice chest.

Loneshark 08-12-2015 08:11 PM

I am surprised the prices are increasing so much with the Energy sector struggles.

B-Stealth 08-12-2015 08:30 PM

Stupid Expensive Duck Lease
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ckinchen (Post 768237)
Two went for 35K one went for 55K. Wow.

Man I'm still trying to wrap my head around that 55K lease.

I'm not sure what's worse 7 $8,000+ blinds or 11 $5,000+ blinds. (I'm not even factoring in profit margins, but I'm sure there will be)

Either way someone is getting the shaft if they lease those blinds. :spineyes:

Top Dawg 08-12-2015 09:46 PM

How many years is the lease?

Bluechip 08-12-2015 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Top Dawg (Post 768380)
How many years is the lease?

5 years...

ckinchen 08-12-2015 09:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Loneshark (Post 768366)
I am surprised the prices are increasing so much with the Energy sector struggles.

Same here. There were tons of bids in the high 20s and both hackberry sections had more than one 30k plus bid.

ScubaLatt 08-12-2015 10:44 PM

If my sources are correct Acadian Ambulance won the $55,000 lease in Creole. Deep,deep pockets!

ScubaLatt 08-12-2015 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by C-Bass2mouth (Post 768223)
Got word yesterday that we were out bid and lost our lease. I know there are a few other guys on this site that had blinds on that property as well. It was nice while it lasted fellas. Thanks again BigHutch for last season, a lot of memories made. Yall scoot over on the public land, coming in hot.

Where was your lease?

Top Dawg 08-13-2015 06:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Bluechip (Post 768381)
5 years...

Well in that case it isn't that bad. I mean still way to high for me but split a few ways over 5 years isn't bad. I thought it was one year.

Shawn Braquet 08-13-2015 06:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Top Dawg (Post 768418)
Well in that case it isn't that bad. I mean still way to high for me but split a few ways over 5 years isn't bad. I thought it was one year.

Price is per year, it goes back up for bid in 5 years.

Top Dawg 08-13-2015 06:36 AM

Oh wow

Spunt Drag 08-13-2015 07:19 AM

30 and 3 bruhhhhhhhhhhhh

C-Bass2mouth 08-13-2015 07:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ScubaLatt (Post 768399)
Where was your lease?

Grand Chenier, South of hwy 82.

C-Bass2mouth 08-13-2015 07:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by capt coonassty (Post 768305)
Always bring seafood. Nothing like sweetening a deal for them northers like some fresh shrimp. A guy I was talking to says a land owner calls and asks him to come back every year just to get some seafood.

Genius. I'll just save some of my shrimp that I bait the scaup up down here with and bring with me.. lol

B-Stealth 08-13-2015 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Top Dawg (Post 768426)
Oh wow

Yea dude like I said stupid expensive, it makes sense now with Acadian Ambulance those guys burn money for fun.

Cmk07c 08-13-2015 05:41 PM

Lost lease
 
30 to 55k a year! That is literally almost a grand a hunt. I'm no mathematician, but couldn't you just go guided everyday for cheaper. Not have to put in any work, no boat upkeep and a jam up lodging experience for cheaper? It just doesn't add up. What is even more nuts is the prices people in Houma marshes pay to shoot ringers and spray hyceinth and Salvania every year. SE part of the state will eventually catch up. Plenty of guys that like to pull their gator tail boat with their Range Rover or Porsche SUV to Delacroix.


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all star rod 08-13-2015 06:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cmk07c (Post 768570)
30 to 55k a year! That is literally almost a grand a hunt. I'm no mathematician, but couldn't you just go guided everyday for cheaper. Not have to put in any work, no boat upkeep and a jam up lodging experience for cheaper? It just doesn't add up. What is even more nuts is the prices people in Houma marshes pay to shoot ringers and spray hyceinth and Salvania every year. SE part of the state will eventually catch up. Plenty of guys that like to pull their gator tail boat with their Range Rover or Porsche SUV to Delacroix.


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You think they are doing all this work you mention. If they have that much money to pay trust me they have hired help doing all this work. They likely call their hired help and tell them when to have the pro drive ready to go. Also, I am sure they are entertaining a lot of clients and friends....A guided duck hunt is about 1K for 3 people just for a drive up hunt...most have a 3 person minimum..... so if you entertain a lot and need to pay for overnight stays it adds up even more. This is not your avg middle class person paying all this $ for these leases....and if I had enough money I would pay the $ to...lol

Big pond 08-13-2015 07:48 PM

I was told on these school board sections you get all the rights hunting,fishing
Shrimping,crabbing,alligators. Heard some sections have very valuable crabbing and shrimping and you are able to recoup a lot of money

ScubaLatt 08-13-2015 09:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Big pond (Post 768598)
I was told on these school board sections you get all the rights hunting,fishing
Shrimping,crabbing,alligators. Heard some sections have very valuable crabbing and shrimping and you are able to recoup a lot of money


The crabbing and crawfishing does not go with the hunting leases. You must negotiate a separate contract for aquaculture or agriculture.

ScubaLatt 08-13-2015 09:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by C-Bass2mouth (Post 768435)
Grand Chenier, South of hwy 82.

Was it the school board section south of the elementary school?

BloodKnot 08-14-2015 10:29 AM

The $55k lease has some crab income on it. I was told a substantial amount to pay the lease.

One of the $30k leases in West Hackberry has crawfish income to other is just hunting.

Goose 08-14-2015 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Spunt Drag (Post 768431)
30 and 3 bruhhhhhhhhhhhh

Don't be surprised when it happens! Heard a lot of talk about that recently, due to numbers....When it does, a lot of leases will come back open...

all star rod 08-14-2015 04:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Goose (Post 768704)
Don't be surprised when it happens! Heard a lot of talk about that recently, due to numbers....When it does, a lot of leases will come back open...

Numbers are higher than ever.....

meaux fishing 08-14-2015 05:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Goose (Post 768704)
Don't be surprised when it happens! Heard a lot of talk about that recently, due to numbers....When it does, a lot of leases will come back open...

record hatches and numbers the last 5 or so years... Stop listening to what your buddies are saying

all star rod 08-14-2015 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by meaux fishing (Post 768728)
record hatches and numbers the last 5 or so years... Stop listening to what your buddies are saying

X2....only people saying this...reduced limits and days are about to happen are people that lost their lease....:work:

Top Dawg 08-14-2015 07:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by meaux fishing (Post 768728)
record hatches and numbers the last 5 or so years... Stop listening to what your buddies are saying

Catch 22. Listen to your buddies or listen to the government? Lol

Duck Butter 08-16-2015 10:01 AM

55k for a section with 4 blinds ain't terrible. You can pick out the best blind and sublease the 3 others for 15k a piece (plenty of suckers with deep pockets) and then you are out of pocket 10k for the best blind. If your blind isn't the best one that year then trade with the best blind or kick them out so you can have the best blind. That's what has been happening lately anyways. Some people end up subleasing and essentially getting their blind for free or very reduced rate


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