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marshrunner757 08-17-2015 08:32 AM

New rod search
 
In the market for a new rod. First let me say I do not like cork handles. Second, my current favorite rod is my 7'-2" shimano cumara. Third, i fish braid.
I've felt the Duckett ghost 7' med. And like the feel of it. Saw the ABU verosity online but haven't found one on the shelf to feel. Any insight to either of these rods?

B Shark 08-17-2015 09:15 AM

I have a Verocity, I'm not sure that I don't like the Veritas better. My current favorite is a St. Croix legend Bass.

marshrunner757 08-17-2015 10:54 AM

How is the verocity and veritas weight wise?

Jman121799 08-17-2015 11:22 AM

I have a ducket ghost rod paired paired with the team lewd reel and love it. Well balanced rod and a great price point

marshrunner757 08-17-2015 12:07 PM

Will be putting a Lews TP on whatever I get. That's all I use

AubreyLaHaye458 08-17-2015 12:33 PM

I love my duckett


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Swampcritterr 08-18-2015 07:16 AM

I have 4 Duckett's and they all have Lew's Tourney Pro's on them (Except for the spinning rod) I love them. They are all ghosts. I have a 7' Medium that is just as nice as it's $150 Shimano counterpart.

marshrunner757 08-18-2015 08:04 AM

Thanks for the info. I'm leaning toward the ghost

jpeff31787 08-18-2015 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by marshrunner757 (Post 769035)
In the market for a new rod. First let me say I do not like cork handles. Second, my current favorite rod is my 7'-2" shimano cumara. Third, i fish braid.
I've felt the Duckett ghost 7' med. And like the feel of it. Saw the ABU verosity online but haven't found one on the shelf to feel. Any insight to either of these rods?


DO NOT GET THE GHOST! Braid will eat the eyes up! I fish with flouro and mono and that even ate the eyes up. Look at Falcon Bucoo, by far my favorite rod between $100-120. Light, sensitive, great eyes, good reel seat, and I've slammed mine against the trolling motor a few times without harm.

marshrunner757 08-18-2015 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by jpeff31787 (Post 769210)
DO NOT GET THE GHOST! Braid will eat the eyes up! I fish with flouro and mono and that even ate the eyes up. Look at Falcon Bucoo, by far my favorite rod between $100-120. Light, sensitive, great eyes, good reel seat, and I've slammed mine against the trolling motor a few times without harm.

I'll have to look into them. Thanks for the info

B Shark 08-18-2015 09:11 AM

My Veritas is 6'6" and my Veracity is 7'3", so weight feels similar as you hold them. If you're looking for extremely light weight, I'm not sure either one of them is the right choice.

jpeff31787 08-18-2015 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by marshrunner757 (Post 769216)
I'll have to look into them. Thanks for the info

I forgot to mention prior to buying the 7' bucoo, the Shimano Cumera was also my favorite rod.

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Originally Posted by B Shark (Post 769221)
My Veritas is 6'6" and my Veracity is 7'3", so weight feels similar as you hold them. If you're looking for extremely light weight, I'm not sure either one of them is the right choice.

I thought the Veritas was a decent lightweight rod, but I hated the eyes and the reel seat. The reel seat forever got loose on you, and the eyes were extremely brittle, not too mention the rod itself would break extremely easily. I literally broke 5 of those rods by just fishing, setting hooks and throwing fish in the boat and what not. I've only broken maybe 3 other rods by fishing and they were all different brands, and one for sure was my fault.

marshrunner757 08-18-2015 09:44 AM

I looked on line at the bucoo micro. Looks and sounds legit. Hopefully LC Tackle has one I can feel.

jpeff31787 08-18-2015 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by marshrunner757 (Post 769228)
I looked on line at the bucoo micro. Looks and sounds legit. Hopefully LC Tackle has one I can feel.

both Academys in Lafayette had a few. The other rods in the duckett family are nice btw. I have the $160 and the $200 white ice ones, but I don't find them extremely nice or anything just nice rods. I don't see myself spending $200 on those rods again though. The 160 ones are pretty good for flipping bass baits around. The tips just a little stiffer than the bucoos, but I typically throw my soft plastics, cranks, spinners, and topwaters on my bucoo. The 7' medium action bucoo is a blast for fishing for trout, there's so much bow in it when you set the hook, its awesome! lol

"W" 08-18-2015 11:41 AM

I have been using Waterloo rods about 8 or 9 years now and I'm still using them !

Speaks for itself

marshrunner757 08-18-2015 12:25 PM

W, which ones you use?

Clampy 08-18-2015 12:33 PM

Jpeff been saying that but I've got a ghost that I've caught bull reds Jacks a Ling and tons of trout and slots all on braid and never had issue at all with the guides

marshrunner757 08-18-2015 12:48 PM

Maybe the older ghosts used different eyes?

Clampy 08-18-2015 01:03 PM

Not sure. I use my ghost for reds and big topwaters like super spooks.
I drop the hammer on fish with that rod.
Last time he said that I inspected the crap out of the guides and I didn't see any wearing.
I've had that rod about 4 years.

marshrunner757 08-18-2015 01:08 PM

I'm going to compare the ghost, bucoo and the waterloo to see what feels best in my hands.

"W" 08-18-2015 01:34 PM

I use the HP lite 6'6 and 6'8

marshrunner757 08-18-2015 02:01 PM

Thanks W

Clampy 08-18-2015 02:02 PM

Waterloo is the best of those for sure.
The bucco is damn good rod also.

BassYakR 08-18-2015 02:36 PM

I have 6 ghost rods mainly bc they are prices fairly cheap, mirco eyes and light weight. I havent had any issues with them yet. they are about a year old now. most of them have braid as well.

marshrunner757 08-18-2015 02:52 PM

Thanks

Ducktrickster 08-18-2015 05:53 PM

I would find a custom rod builder to build exactly what I wanted if you are going to spend that kind of money.

VooDoo 08-18-2015 10:08 PM

If you are interested in maybe looking into a custom rod, PM me. Im in Lafayette & could build exactly what you want in your price range

Elbert Chamblee 08-20-2015 02:43 PM

new rod search
 
I had a 7 or 8 yr old falcon bucco 6' 6" and closed the tailgate on my old ford truck and I started to turn to get my tackle bag off the ground. Well there was a reel hanging in midair....I grabbed the rod handle and opened the tailgate and couldn't see any visible damage. So I went to my roadside spot for flounder and was expecting the rod to explode on hook set. I fished about 6 months more until I sat on the rodbox and snapped the first 6" off the end. Wish I still had it but they don't make the 6' 6" anymore.
I like the looks of the Ducket and the weight feels good. Maybe next time.

I make oil 08-20-2015 09:49 PM

I hate to break a favorite rod. The cleats in my boat have cost me a lot of money. Put the rod down to unhook a fish then pick it back up and SNAP! You'd think I'd learn.:shaking:

My next boat will have drop down cleats.

marshrunner757 08-20-2015 09:55 PM

Done that before. Now my cleats are on the vertical section of front deck and transom.

marshrunner757 08-21-2015 09:50 AM

Voodoo will be building a new rod for me. This will be my first custom rod so I'm looking forward to it. Can't speak for quality of rod yet but we have conversed over the past few days and I am very happy with his willingness to help and his patience. Will keep you updated on the build.

jpeff31787 08-21-2015 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by I make oil (Post 769660)
I hate to break a favorite rod. The cleats in my boat have cost me a lot of money. Put the rod down to unhook a fish then pick it back up and SNAP! You'd think I'd learn.:shaking:

My next boat will have drop down cleats.

that's how I broke my last one.. lmao

jl8200 08-21-2015 08:13 PM

Don't most of these rod makers use pretty much the same blanks. I don't think the small rod builders like Deuce make their own blanks so are they really all that different?

redaddiction 08-21-2015 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by jl8200 (Post 769787)
Don't most of these rod makers use pretty much the same blanks. I don't think the small rod builders like Deuce make their own blanks so are they really all that different?


Yup, blanks, guides, reel seats, grips. They are all basically using the same components. They buy the pieces and assemble.

jl8200 08-21-2015 09:06 PM

So if that is indeed true, then there isn't much that sets one builder from another other than looks and combinations of materials that they offer in their lineup. So comparing them is a moot point really.


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Originally Posted by redaddiction (Post 769789)
Yup, blanks, guides, reel seats, grips. They are all basically using the same components. They buy the pieces and assemble.


redaddiction 08-21-2015 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by jl8200 (Post 769792)
So if that is indeed true, then there isn't much that sets one builder from another other than looks and combinations of materials that they offer in their lineup. So comparing them is a moot point really.


That's the way I see it. But that's just my opinion. It's not like they are manufacturing every part themselves.

VooDoo 08-23-2015 09:26 PM

That's some some pretty broad assumptions from someone who does not know me or my work, so I take a little offense to a few statements made here. All rod builders do not use the same blanks/components. I've been building for 6 years and have built rods from over 10 different blank manufacturers. I do mainly use only 2 in most of my builds now due to their past performance history/reviews from customers and not because "everybody uses them". It is true that anyone can slap together a few parts and create a "custom" rod & thats cool. The difference in a "true" custom rod is the builder putting the correct combination of parts with the correct blank based on that customers specifications (knowledge/skill). I have no doubt marshrunner757 will see the difference in my product when complete.

marshrunner757 08-23-2015 10:07 PM

Can't wait to lay hands on the rod. While I'm no pro, I like a rod that feels good in the hand. I have no doubt the one you're building for me will exceed my expectations. The difference in a custom rod is the attention to detail. One rod at a time instead of overseas mass production. I will post info on the rod with honest opinions once I get it and will update after some use.

Rig Magician 08-24-2015 08:40 PM

I just got a new Abu Garcia Villian 7' Med. and I put a Shimano Calcutta 200GTB. I have not got to fish with it yet but I have tested it in the panel behind the house. This thing cast a country mile with ease. It is light and feels great in the hand. It is also Marked down right now from 179 to 125.

Stumpy14 08-25-2015 12:28 AM

I have Duckett buccos skeet resse veritas vendetta coastal my favorite would be Duckett then falcon bucco etc their is the duce rods I'm very interested and McCain rod I will eventually try

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juicegoose 09-02-2015 03:33 PM

Voodoo was dead on guys. Although there is truth to the fact that many of the components that manufactures use are available to the custom builder it does not mean that everyone builds the same way or to the same quality. Casey is a great guy and does amazing work. Most custom rods will be much better built then anything you buy off the shelf. Do they sometimes cost more? Sure but your not buying a mass produced, fit for everyone not fit for you, rod. I think you'll like what Casey is going to build you.

To answer the poster that stated "aren't custom rods just dressed up versions of anything a manufacture makes?" Get you a custom rod made, and you'd be surprised how quickly that changes.

marshrunner757 09-07-2015 06:14 PM

Can't speak for the the functionality yet but I can speak for the feel of my voodoo rod and for Casey. The rod can't weigh any more than my cumara and feels great. Looking forward to trying this thing out. And Casey is a super nice guy. Showed me around the shop and some of his work. This guy builds some pretty rods. I'd highly recommend hitting him up.

black n chartreuse 09-14-2015 08:59 AM

Duckett all day long

marshrunner757 09-18-2015 06:19 PM

Christened the voodoo rod today. Only 2 on that particular rod but both were 4-5# reds on top water. I can't explain the feel but the rod seems more balanced or something even when fighting. It will cast a mile also.

marshrunner757 07-28-2016 09:57 AM

A little update on my voodoo rod. Been about a year now and this is my favorite rod. Actually just contacted Casey and about to start a new build.

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