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C-Bass2mouth 08-27-2015 07:43 AM

Speck call help
 
Looking to buy a speck call for $100 or less. I'd say I'm maybe one step above a beginner, but definitely new to the speck call game. Thought I was getting pretty good... until I started watching some YouTube vids of the comp guys. Not sure how difficult some of the nicer speck calls can be for a spoonbill like me to run. I've heard a ton of good things about Riceland, seems like most people around here that hunt specks hard blow these, but I feel that could be biased since they're a local deal. Looking at the RCC poly now, and the RNT barbelly. Can anyone change my mind?

meaux fishing 08-27-2015 07:51 AM

riceland poly is a very good call. very easy to operate too. Dont watch pro videos and compare yourself they have been blowing a lot longer than you or me. I've found if I recorded myself and played it back I could see where I need work. hand position is everything when blowing a speck call

Duck Butter 08-27-2015 08:10 AM

Calls them specks in baw

http://www.outdoorhub.com/news/2015/...onize-angling/

cgoods17 08-27-2015 08:10 AM

RCC poly is probably your best bang for you buck.

meaux fishing 08-27-2015 08:13 AM

Just use electronic calls. Super easy and only illegal if you get caught lol

C-Bass2mouth 08-27-2015 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Duck Butter (Post 770607)

I need that to tie behind my gang rigged mojo floater pull cord. Get every water turkey in the parish to come decoy..

bosco 08-27-2015 08:24 AM

Prejudiced, yes. Chien Kie. Produced in Gueydan by the Saltzmans. Been using one for over 20 years.

These are no nonsense calls. Durable. Best thing is you can talk "spec" with one.

The other new calls are good and sound good to me; however, I am not a specklebelly.

Duck Festival is this weekend. Go to the Goose Calling contest. You should be able to get a wealth of first hand information there.

C-Bass2mouth 08-27-2015 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by meaux fishing (Post 770609)
Just use electronic calls. Super easy and only illegal if you get caught lol

ILLEGAL??? I would NEVER do anything illegal or unethical while hunting waterfowl.. just for the record lol

C-Bass2mouth 08-27-2015 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by bosco (Post 770612)
Prejudiced, yes. Chien Kie. Produced in Gueydan by the Saltzmans. Been using one for over 20 years.

These are no nonsense calls. Durable. Best thing is you can talk "spec" with one.

The other new calls are good and sound good to me; however, I am not a specklebelly.

Duck Festival is this weekend. Go to the Goose Calling contest. You should be able to get a wealth of first hand information there.

I've heard a lot of old timers talk about these. My fiancée's birthday is Saturday, I seriously doubt I can convince her that the best place to spend it at is in Gueydan lol. I'd love to check it out though. Curious about the duck calling contests. Do they do a meat style?

meaux fishing 08-27-2015 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by bosco (Post 770612)
Prejudiced, yes. Chien Kie. Produced in Gueydan by the Saltzmans. Been using one for over 20 years.

These are no nonsense calls. Durable. Best thing is you can talk "spec" with one.

The other new calls are good and sound good to me; however, I am not a specklebelly.

Duck Festival is this weekend. Go to the Goose Calling contest. You should be able to get a wealth of first hand information there.

chien caille... just sayin

great sounding calls but not as easy to blow as the rcc's

meaux fishing 08-27-2015 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by C-Bass2mouth (Post 770615)
I've heard a lot of old timers talk about these. My fiancée's birthday is Saturday, I seriously doubt I can convince her that the best place to spend it at is in Gueydan lol. I'd love to check it out though. Curious about the duck calling contests. Do they do a meat style?

calling contest is sunday

Rat-Red 08-27-2015 08:55 AM

SKG Game Calls in Lafayette makes some nice calls for not much money. I've only heard his duck calls but I'm pretty sure he builds speck calls too.

Top Dawg 08-27-2015 09:03 AM

Under 100 go with chien caille. I use a redbone but they are high end but my chien caille is still hanging on my lanyard for backup. I bought my dad a rice land poly for Christmas a couple years and the tone was terrible. He now has a redbone also. If you do get a chien and it's hard to blow mervis will make it blow however you want.

redleg one 08-27-2015 09:06 AM

I run nothing but redbone goose calls,but I do agree that a Riceland poly is a good product for the price range indicated

I also agree that it is unrealistic to compare yourself to the top shelf guys being that you are just starting out

I ran chien caille for 20 years,then started with redbone in the prototype stages in 2006

Just remember that there are many stages one must go through to attain the necessary air control skills needed to run like what is seen on you tube

It is a progression,nobody just takes a call from the package and rips off a 90 second comp routine or immediately can mimic a specific goose on the spot,takes time and practice hours---countless---I have lived it

ahlangle 08-27-2015 09:14 AM

Chien Caille got the best one I've ever used. Mine is the older style and the newer ones are a little different but still very good. Probably find an old one somehwere if you look.
Difficult until you get used to em, but put alot of backpressure on that sucker and if you catch a group of like 4 or less, they seem to like it.

The cheap clear plastic Haydel's speck call works very well also, real nasal sounding.

Speck calls and a whistle are all I bother bringing out anymore as the widgeon and the speck are the only ones that seem to have anything to say when I talk!

meaux fishing 08-27-2015 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Top Dawg (Post 770624)
Under 100 go with chien caille. I use a redbone but they are high end but my chien caille is still hanging on my lanyard for backup. I bought my dad a rice land poly for Christmas a couple years and the tone was terrible. He now has a redbone also. If you do get a chien and it's hard to blow mervis will make it blow however you want.

Shouldve got with Myers or Daniels. Ive heard they will make it right if you have problems

boatdriver 08-27-2015 09:16 AM

If you have the extra money laying around, just get a RedBone. Very realistic sounding calls straight out of the mailbox. Pricey, but in the end, it will be very beneficial. Plus, RedBone sends out an instructional DVD on the How to's. Worth every penny right there. I run a Redbone as well, so I am very biased. But, I was in your position once and then I heard one in the blind... From then on, that's what I wanted to sound like!

Spunt Drag 08-27-2015 09:52 AM

Redbone the best IMO. Don't really like the Riceland poly.

C-Bass2mouth 08-27-2015 10:02 AM

Some people I know were partnered up with SKG. I blew several of the duck calls, didn't know he made a spec call. All the duck calls were just echo inserts with a hand turned barrel then. Poly RCC is looking like the top candidate now

C-Bass2mouth 08-27-2015 10:08 AM

The only calls I've ever owned was the orange Haydels, and a Banded Poly I got for free. Been keeping the Banded one on my lanyard, but keep in mind I usually only get a few chances per season at specks, hence the reason I don't want to spend 150 bones on one.

meaux fishing 08-27-2015 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by C-Bass2mouth (Post 770645)
The only calls I've ever owned was the orange Haydels, and a Banded Poly I got for free. Been keeping the Banded one on my lanyard, but keep in mind I usually only get a few chances per season at specks, hence the reason I don't want to spend 150 bones on one.

try 200+ for the redbone... they are sweet calls though I wont deny that

C-Bass2mouth 08-27-2015 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by meaux fishing (Post 770662)
try 200+ for the redbone... they are sweet calls though I wont deny that

Wow.. Maybe Santa will bring me one.

bmatte8 08-27-2015 01:07 PM

Check out the Xciter Calls Bartender speck call as well. Acrylic insert/wood barrel is $75

BIG-C 08-27-2015 03:24 PM

Chein Caille,you'll have the specks eating out the palm of your hand!!!

hunterr77 08-27-2015 03:59 PM

Get a chein caille learn how to call with it, for a year a 2 they are durable and under 100 dollars. Plus if you can call with a chein caillie you will pretty much be able to call with any of the upgrades. That's my thoughts, granted I am not a champion speck caller or nothen.

C-Bass2mouth 08-27-2015 04:30 PM

RCC poly is ordered. Ready to flare some dam birds now!!! lol

noodle creek 08-27-2015 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by C-Bass2mouth (Post 770699)
RCC poly is ordered. Ready to flare some dam birds now!!! lol

If you're anywhere close to Holmwood, get with Bill once you get it. He'll make it right for you and point you in the right direction. No point in being frustrated with a new call when you can go spend a few minutes with the guy who builds em and have him tune it for you just right.

C-Bass2mouth 08-27-2015 06:26 PM

That's awesome. I'd like to do that regardless

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meat killer 86 08-27-2015 08:32 PM

Yea do what noodle said. Bill or James will tune it for you. Show you some pointers. Also help you if call messes up. They take care of people.

all star rod 08-27-2015 09:08 PM

I have both the poly & acrylic RCC. Spend the extra $$ & get the acrylic call....well worth an extra 100 $$... big sound difference between the two calls.

Top Dawg 08-27-2015 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by meaux fishing (Post 770628)
Shouldve got with Myers or Daniels. Ive heard they will make it right if you have problems

I don't doubt they will help. I think the rcc acrylic are nice calls. I've blown several polys and personally the tone of a poly just isn't what a chien is. I've been around the speck game a long time. The popular call is the rcc poly. But i'ma for under 100 bones a chien has the better tone. And high end redbone has them all beat hands down no contest.

meaux fishing 08-27-2015 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Top Dawg (Post 770741)
I don't doubt they will help. I think the rcc acrylic are nice calls. I've blown several polys and personally the tone of a poly just isn't what a chien is. I've been around the speck game a long time. The popular call is the rcc poly. But i'ma for under 100 bones a chien has the better tone. And high end redbone has them all beat hands down no contest.

I agree 100%, however the rcc poly is a way easier to blow than the chien caille. So to me, for a beginner, the rcc poly is a better option under $100

meat killer 86 08-28-2015 04:10 AM

Would you all like to know what the best call is? It's the one the caller can work the best and the one he can say he has the most confidence in.

So how how about take these opinions and go from here and start blowing some calls then decide for your self.

Personally I got into RCC because I know the guys and hunt with some of them and they have shown me a thing or 2 along the way. I also have an old James Myers that i still use. I'm not the best but I can manipulate the call well enough to trick some birdies.

In the end I did it because that's what they taught me with so that's where I am with it. IMO they are the best. But that's all I know really.

Good luck and I hope you smack down some generals this yr. Nothing like working them birds and making them do the "Death Turn" as my cousin likes to say right into the decoys.

Spunt Drag 08-28-2015 07:08 AM

2 whole days and still nobody has posted the YouTube video of the Riceland crew. Gotta be a record.

redleg one 08-28-2015 11:02 AM

Confidence in your call is a major factor. I like a call that allows the caller to grow and the call still support what he or she can execute

From my experience there is a wall I have hit in the past with lower end calls that forces me as a caller to have to run according to what the call can handle

If a caller is having success on whatever brand,great,keep on keeping on

I wanted more,thus my switch from chien caille,faulk,haydel's,primos ---to redbone years ago

John C.

jlincecum 08-28-2015 02:37 PM

everyone blows different. same call may be different in two peoples hands. the one you are comfortable with and sounds the best when you blow it is the winner. Never find a winner on the first try.

PS Olt with modified guts and a blue Haydels (not sure if it hit the market) hang on my lanyard

redleg one 08-28-2015 04:06 PM

yeah olt t-20's were awesome

that blue haydel's must be a big bore they did,I saw that years back at the duck festival---that was a good call

jlincecum 08-28-2015 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by redleg one (Post 770843)
yeah olt t-20's were awesome

that blue haydel's must be a big bore they did,I saw that years back at the duck festival---that was a good call

yep, came out of a shoe box in the backseat of Rod's truck. Tried 8 or 9 of em till I found the one that suited me best.

Gasper Master 08-28-2015 10:41 PM

Chien Caille, my buddy blows one and hunts out of a normal "duck" blind with open water on both sides and kills over 200 specks each year. He blows only ONE note. the cluck. its gets aggravating as crap, but he constantly clucks and they pour in.

Big Hutch 08-29-2015 02:37 PM

You buddy has a blind in a good spot. Its not the call and its definitely not a "normal" blind.

I will swap blinds with him.... Blind swap... I will bring a check if I need that too...

Just my 2 cents. No call or brand of call will work just by hanging the call on the corner of the blind hoping the geese will see it and come in. It takes lots of constructive practice to learn how to properly run the call and make the full range of sounds. In addition it takes a knowledge of the birds and how and when to call to be a good speck hunter.

I started out on a Chien Caille and killed lots of specks with it. The first year that Bill and James formed Riceland I bought one and I am glad I did. I have tried the other premium speck call but I prefer the sound and performance of my Riceland. Through all of this time I have become friends with Bill and some of the Riceland staff. I am a satisfied customer and more importantly the specks really like them. The specks in SW LA are the most pressured specks in the U. S. If a call is effective here there is a reason for the loyalty of the users.

Robbie aka Big Hutch

redleg one 08-29-2015 05:45 PM

Gueydan DUCK festival speck contest
 
Tomorrow is the duck festival contests in Gueydan

The last 2 contests are the Louisiana state speck and Gueydan open speck

If you want to hear some top shelf calling,there will be some good callers competing

Gasper Master 08-29-2015 08:36 PM

Trust me, this blind is no different than 90% of the other blinds in Whiteville. He's on a levee between two crawfish ponds on a big rice farm. Granted, there is a lot of geese that fly over, but thy fly over many of the other blinds just the same.

I know its not just because of the chien caille, but i guess the point i was trying to make is you can go buy a decently priced chien caille and killed just as many birds as a redbone or another 200 dollar call.

All BS aside, all he does is constant clucks, NO FANCY CALLING

meat killer 86 08-29-2015 10:20 PM

Guaranteed if he came to my place and he clucked the geese would laugh. You need to be on your game at my place.

Eagleheaded 08-30-2015 09:49 PM

Truer words have never been spoken JP...

C-Bass2mouth 08-31-2015 07:21 AM

I'll post a sound file or something when it comes in for some help. Didn't think I'd get this much feedback. Thanks for the info.

redleg one 08-31-2015 07:32 AM

I agree with the clucking not always working

There are times were I hunt that clucking will flare them because they hear the same thing out of the 10 other adjacent blinds

Best option for me,mimic the bird with yodel---two or three note

Or uka-uk if you are able to execute that

Big Hutch 08-31-2015 11:06 PM

Two comments. The first is listen to John. The second is to listen to John.

Seriously, I hunt the area around Bunkie and like SW LA there are fields that the specks prefer and if you have a blind in those fields you have to work really hard to keep them from coming in. I would almost guarantee that if your friend switched blinds or fields he would find out that his blind or field is one of those.

You can't compare calling specks at my blind around Bunkie with my blinds around Thornwell and Welsh because of the intense pressure the specks are under in SW LA. Part of that pressure is that there are a lot of really good speck callers that hunt almost daily in SW LA. There just aren't as many hardcore speck hunters or expert callers in other areas of the state. Honestly, I hope my neighbors on my farm call at the specks there because their calling keeps the specks from coming toward them and makes my calling sound more realistic to those specks.

Just my 2 cents.
Robbie aka Big Hutch

C-Bass2mouth 09-01-2015 07:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Big Hutch (Post 771280)
Two comments. The first is listen to John. The second is to listen to John.

Seriously, I hunt the area around Bunkie and like SW LA there are fields that the specks prefer and if you have a blind in those fields you have to work really hard to keep them from coming in. I would almost guarantee that if your friend switched blinds or fields he would find out that his blind or field is one of those.

You can't compare calling specks at my blind around Bunkie with my blinds around Thornwell and Welsh because of the intense pressure the specks are under in SW LA. Part of that pressure is that there are a lot of really good speck callers that hunt almost daily in SW LA. There just aren't as many hardcore speck hunters or expert callers in other areas of the state. Honestly, I hope my neighbors on my farm call at the specks there because their calling keeps the specks from coming toward them and makes my calling sound more realistic to those specks.

Just my 2 cents.
Robbie aka Big Hutch

Makes sense to me. Got my rcc in yesterday. Sounds pretty good, but no better than my cheap banded poly I had. Then again, I'm not a goose.. Much easier to blow though.

all star rod 09-01-2015 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by C-Bass2mouth (Post 771291)
Makes sense to me. Got my rcc in yesterday. Sounds pretty good, but no better than my cheap banded poly I had. Then again, I'm not a goose.. Much easier to blow though.

Like I mentioned on an earlier post in your thread, you should of spent the extra 100 buck for the acrylic call.

redleg one 09-01-2015 08:27 AM

In the event that you have one really good note shape---in my opinion it is better to use a LOT of that note shape in the blind with periods of silence between making that really good two or three note yodel,then throw sound at them that is only kind of right

You have to watch reaction too---I know pretty early on in a hunt when something is not going to work on a given day,even if the bird is hot and vocal,if they are not breaking,i switch to something else OR if I get an initial break and the birds go stale---that 60-80 yard circle and circle and not drop---time to switch sounds

I view it as having to be mentally strong too,because they are very tough,especially in high pressure areas. They will break a man's confidence,but it is like fishing sometimes,one must keep throwing and throwing and sooner or later you will get a bite


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