1 1/5 oz VS 1 1/4 oz duck load
 

Fiocchi shotshells has introduced a new 12 ga shell for this year. It's called STEEL WARLOCK. It is a 1 1/5 oz load that travels 1550 fps versus a traditional 1 1/4 oz load that travels 1350 fps.

Would you go with the heavier 1 1/4 oz load or the faster 1 1/5 oz load?

Both are available in # 1 or #3 now with a # 2 due soon.

Most of my shots are from 25 - 65 yards. Most birds are greys, pintail, ring neck, canvasback, widgeon. Few teal. Some scalp and very few mallards.

This is what I normally shoot. I absolutely love these shells. Very clean burning and I can go 2-3 hunts shooting 2 boxes per hunt before I have to clean my npNerwtta.

Best part about them is that they are olive drab in color. I HATE red and blue shells all around my blind!:pissed:

Here's a pic of the shells in olive drab green.

might have to check em out. Weight difference is only .05 ounces so i dont really think the shot weight is that big a factor

The thing to think about is if you're hitting birds now using you current shells at 1350 fps you will need to adjust your shooting for the faster shells at 1550 fps. The learning curve might not be big but then again it might be.

good point.... btw they have those on rogers sporting goods for 109 a case in #2,3,&4

I like 1 3/8 #4's. Talk about knock a bird out the sky.


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1 1/5 oz VS 1 1/4 oz duck load
 

I started shooting the Hevi-metal about two years ago 1 1/4 #2s by far worth the money IMO. Talk about make ducks crumple.


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I like my shells like my women. Short, cheap and fast.

amen

Thanks never heard of them.

Me too I want the most shot I can get in a shell for deader birds. Personally I won't buy anything less than 1-1/4 oz and I won't shoot at a bird over 40 yrds

put an extended choke and some barrel stickers and you should be able to knock em down at 100 yds...

Lol where's bgizzle when u need him?

He is practicing...Bouncing DA HEN.....

I have a kicks industry high flyer full choke and routinely kill birds out to 70 yds. Even folded a drake canvasback at 80 yds last day of season. He fell dirt dead!

Classic

Personally I wouldn't think about taking a shot at a duck or goose at 70-80 yards. I bought a pattern master extended choke and it is way too much for decoying birds. So I keep my IC in for ducks/geese. And save the pattern master for turkey season.

"Come on man!"
Chris Carter

I'm not going to start giving distances or anything because I am the worst at judging that. But i will say that my with my patternmaster I have less cripples and feel more confident that I can kill birds on the third shot.


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No lie. I remembered where he fell and measured it on google earth?

duck loads
 

difference in 1 1/4 and 1 1/5 is maybe 10 bb's in #3 shot. Speed kills but it slows down just like the slow bb's do. I always liked the Estate 3 1/2" with #2 for big ducks or #3 for teal. Shot a IC for teal and a LM for big ducks and geese (BBBs). I had 8 cases of steel shot when I quit duck hunting a few years ago and I sold to a buddy. He had never shot the estate shells 1 1/2 at 1350 fps or 1 3/8 at 1450. He came by after about a month and I thought the shells must have give him trouble. Well he wanted to know if I had some more that I kept just in case. He just bought the cheap shells 1 oz at Walmart....SPEED KILLS and big loads deliver dead ducks. To me the easiest bird to kill is a canvasback.

I have to respectfully disagree with you that canvasbacks are the easiest bird to kill. I shot a truckload this year and I think they are the toughest to kill. They are divers so their feathers do not shed water much like puddle ducks do. The feathers get wet and mat up and are nearly impenetrable. You almost have to have a head shot or very close range body shot to clean kill them. I had many cripples we had to chase this year. I have had BBs fall out of their feathers while cleaning them. And they fly remarkably fast!

1 1/5 or VS 1 1/4 oz duck load.
 

if forgot to tell ya I head shot all my ducks. Just kidding... No my brother in law would pull up on canvas backs and every time he shot one it was a clean kill. I guess he could on hit a canvasback. He missed everything else. The hardest bird that I ever saw that could take a load of shot was a ruddy duck. Didn't kill many but I dusted a bunch of them and the second shot took them out.

Ruddy ducks are also divers and thus have wet, packed feathers. That, plus they are so small a target makes 'em hard to shoot. Saw a ton of those little rockets but did not shoot many cause was told they are tough and taste like leather?

If he had like 6 more hands like madusa then he would sound way better. He needs more cup in his hands to make it sound more realistic. Lol

Don't want to burst a bubble but I hunt about 35 days typically during duck season. I clean my gun during the split and at the end of season. That's it. Never have any issues. If your cleaning your gun every few hunts maybe those shells are not as good as they sound. Just saying.

#tellmewhatyouthinkboys

I've said it before, and I'll say it again. That primos wench is the bee's knees for 20 bucks.. in the right hands of course.

Cans eat #2's for breakfast sitting on the water past 30 yds. Scaup are borderline immortal..

Kicks HF full is NOT for decoying birds. Will completley ruin your teal. From time to time I make some "long dong" shots out of luck with the full, but my bud next to me makes much more than me with a modified kicks hf (mainly because he's twice the shooter i am). This I what happens to decoying birds with the full. 3"#2's

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I shoot the Kicks HF Mod and it is the real deal hardly have any cripples to deal with


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Only reason I haven't switched from my kicks hf full to mod is because the full is seized up in the barrel. Also I found some Hevi-Steel 3" 1-1/4 #2, #3, & #4's on macks for $150 a case with free shipping. I've been reading reviews and haven't really seen anything negative yet. Anyone have any experience with these?

I've switched to them about two years ago. I love Hevi-Metal never tried the Hevi-Steel. There isn't any BS about them they have some knock down power. That is all I shoot now.


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I don't think the Hevi-Steel has the "heavy" shot like the expensive stuff. Just normal steel pellets.

Yea the hevi-metal has half steel and hevi-Shot they are $219.00 a case


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Well they can keep them for $219 lol

I shoot them 109 a case shells lol

Where you getting them from??


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I meant I shoot cheap shells

I was about to say. With the $50 rebate on a case of Hevi-metal you can get them for $169


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