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Andy C 09-21-2015 02:33 PM

do you know where you came from?
 
Not talking about grandparents or great grandparents, 90% of us are not navived Indian, so here's my question/problem. 90% of are families came to this country legal, and fought for this country!! It's the ileagle one's I have the problem with, it's not just Hispanics, they come on visas,school projects,work projects.. and never leave, and don't pay taxes but want what's given to them cause they a miorty!! It happened with the shrimp, and oysters, 30 years ago, now its happening to the chicken/Turkey farms around here, 5 year's tax free sale it to your cousin, then repeat. The construction industry is turning into the same cycle too, bid a job get payed don't complete it, file chapter11 sell every thing to your brother in law, and start again.

What happened to the land of the free home of the brave!!!! Can't understand way anyone would want to come to "are" county, seeing how it's Washingtons country when theres so many better places to go!!

rustyb 09-21-2015 03:28 PM

Its a different place for sure

fishfighter 09-21-2015 03:35 PM

don't believe i have ever heard of a NAVIVED Indians, and not sure what part of Texas is "are" county

marty f 09-21-2015 04:26 PM

My ancestors originated in Northern Germania

Spunt Drag 09-21-2015 04:59 PM

Is there a English version of Rosetta Stone?

Andy C 09-21-2015 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by fishfighter (Post 773675)
don't believe i have ever heard of a NAVIVED Indians, and not sure what part of Texas is "are" county

Everyone is a smart *** !! It's hard to type putting food on your familys table!!!

fishfighter 09-21-2015 05:30 PM

Lol
 
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Originally Posted by Andy C (Post 773681)
Everyone is a smart *** !! It's hard to type putting food on your familys table!!!

Maybe try one thing at a time then, feed your family then type

bull1134 09-21-2015 05:41 PM

I came from my mommy's bathroom parts....

eman 09-21-2015 06:41 PM

Cherokee on one side and scotch / Irish > Tennessee hillbilly on the other.

Matt G 09-21-2015 07:46 PM

Tracer mine back the southern part of France. Expelled to Port Royal, Nova Scotia in the 1600s and expelled from Grand Pré, Nova Scotia to Louisiana in the 1700s during Le Grand Dérangement. We still speak French, so I have no issues with people who speak other languages...... As long as they contribute their fair share.

Feesherman 09-23-2015 06:43 AM

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Originally Posted by fishfighter (Post 773682)
Maybe try one thing at a time then, feed your family then type

Or try spellcheck after typing. Although, spellcheck may become overwhelmed and implode

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Spunt Drag 09-23-2015 07:42 AM

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Or try spellcheck after typing. Although, spellcheck may become overwhelmed and implode

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Save the "Illeagles"!

Rat-Red 09-23-2015 07:50 AM

Damn you Spunt Drag! You made me spit coffee all over my desk!

Cjleger337 09-23-2015 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Matt G (Post 773701)
Tracer mine back the southern part of France. Expelled to Port Royal, Nova Scotia in the 1600s and expelled from Grand Pré, Nova Scotia to Louisiana in the 1700s during Le Grand Dérangement. We still speak French, so I have no issues with people who speak other languages...... As long as they contribute their fair share.

This ^ is my family lineage as well maybe with the exception of southern part of France. We are still researching on where they came from before they arrived in Nova Scotia.

I unfortunately dont speak Cajun French because my grandparents were made to feel embarrassed and less of a person because they did so which resulted in them not wanting to teach their kids and grandkids our language. They were banned from speaking it in school and public in general. I have no problems with other immigrants speaking different languages and retaining their culture because Ill be damned that I will be part of making someone else feel like I do.

fishfighter 09-23-2015 08:24 AM

hahaha
 
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Originally Posted by Feesherman (Post 773804)
Or try spellcheck after typing. Although, spellcheck may become overwhelmed and implode

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Originally Posted by Spunt Drag (Post 773809)
Save the "Illeagles"!


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duckman1911 09-23-2015 08:31 AM

Some spanish, indian (choctaw and cherokee, french and german.never really dug into it to find out much more. Doesn't matter at this point.

DaPointIsDaBomb 09-23-2015 08:39 AM

We all originated from Africa then dispersed.

alphaman 09-23-2015 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Andy C (Post 773669)
Not talking about grandparents or great grandparents, 90% of us are not navived Indian, so here's my question/problem. 90% of are families came to this country legal, and fought for this country!! It's the ileagle one's I have the problem with, it's not just Hispanics, they come on visas,school projects,work projects.. and never leave, and don't pay taxes but want what's given to them cause they a miorty!! It happened with the shrimp, and oysters, 30 years ago, now its happening to the chicken/Turkey farms around here, 5 year's tax free sale it to your cousin, then repeat. The construction industry is turning into the same cycle too, bid a job get payed don't complete it, file chapter11 sell every thing to your brother in law, and start again.

What happened to the land of the free home of the brave!!!! Can't understand way anyone would want to come to "are" county, seeing how it's Washingtons country when theres so many better places to go!!

How can you say we came to America legally if the American soil owned by indians and then taken away by force (guns) from the Indian. (I say owned the land) they where here first. indians had No documented info to claim the land. we came with knowledge, reading, writing ect. figured out they ( indians) can't read or write so hey we will forcefully take it from them etc.
I'm just saying......
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alphaman 09-23-2015 09:04 AM

Also people are complaining about Mexicans coming to America and taking OUR job right.

They aren't taking OUR JOBS. the problem isn't Mexican. the problem is BIG MONEY BUSINESS owners are Hiring Mexicans for cheap labor so they can keep MORE MONEY in their pockets.

American aren't working bc THAT'S NOT ENOUGH MONEY, I'M NOT WORKING FOR THAT. I CAN'T LIVE OFF OF THAT ETC.

just my thoughts on

Jcredeur 09-23-2015 09:11 AM

Mexicans are willing to do the work also. I don't feel it is just about pay but we are losing people who are willing to do manual labor. So many today feel they are entitled to start at the top of the totem pole..... Just my 2cents..

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duckman1911 09-23-2015 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Jcredeur (Post 773825)
Mexicans are willing to do the work also. I don't feel it is just about pay but we are losing people who are willing to do manual labor. So many today feel they are entitled to start at the top of the totem pole..... Just my 2cents..

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Yep. They won't line up to work but they line up for a check. Over run with lazy people.

marty f 09-23-2015 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by alphaman (Post 773823)
American aren't working bc THAT'S NOT ENOUGH MONEY, I'M NOT WORKING FOR THAT. I CAN'T LIVE OFF OF THAT ETC.

just my thoughts on

Been told first hand, when trying to hire someone, They get more money from welfare and the Gov hand outs. The problem is THIS GOVERNMENT!!

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Matt G 09-23-2015 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by alphaman (Post 773823)
American aren't working bc THAT'S NOT ENOUGH MONEY, I'M NOT WORKING FOR THAT. I CAN'T LIVE OFF OF THAT ETC.

just my thoughts on

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Originally Posted by Jcredeur (Post 773825)
Mexicans are willing to do the work also. I don't feel it is just about pay but we are losing people who are willing to do manual labor. So many today feel they are entitled to start at the top of the totem pole..... Just my 2cents..

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alphaman 09-23-2015 09:27 AM

That's a another topic right there.

Jcredeur 09-23-2015 09:33 AM

I saw it first hand these last few months while they build my house. Our contractor did not use one sub who ran a crew of Mexicans. The house took a little longer but the workmanship was there. The problem though, most of these guys are nearing an age where they won't be able to do this type of work anymore. Like what was stated earlier no one is knocking down the door for these types of jobs. In the near future roofing, Brock laying, sheetrock hanging and finishing will all be a list art to our younger generations.

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duckman1911 09-23-2015 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Jcredeur (Post 773837)
I saw it first hand these last few months while they build my house. Our contractor did not use one sub who ran a crew of Mexicans. The house took a little longer but the workmanship was there. The problem though, most of these guys are nearing an age where they won't be able to do this type of work anymore. Like what was stated earlier no one is knocking down the door for these types of jobs. In the near future roofing, Brock laying, sheetrock hanging and finishing will all be a list art to our younger generations.

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A lot of our society is raising a bunch of weak ***, video game playing, scared to get dirty young men. Not even bringing up men just a bunch of over grown boys. Nothing wrong with well educated suit wearing people. The world needs them but it also needs people that are willing to sweat for their pay.

swamp snorkler 09-23-2015 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Jcredeur (Post 773837)
I saw it first hand these last few months while they build my house. Our contractor did not use one sub who ran a crew of Mexicans. The house took a little longer but the workmanship was there. The problem though, most of these guys are nearing an age where they won't be able to do this type of work anymore. Like what was stated earlier no one is knocking down the door for these types of jobs. In the near future roofing, Brock laying, sheetrock hanging and finishing will all be a list art to our younger generations.

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You right, even Welders and ESPECIALLY STRUCTURAL FITTERS are a dieing breed. We have old bosses who were fitters who can calculate the measurments they need, some of these your fitters can't cut a piece a channel without a cutsheet

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Originally Posted by duckman1911 (Post 773841)
A lot of our society is raising a bunch of weak ***, video game playing, scared to get dirty young men. Not even bringing up men just a bunch of over grown boys. Nothing wrong with well educated suit wearing people. The world needs them but it also needs people that are willing to sweat for their pay.


I try to teach my son everything that I know how to do, when I'm changing the oil he's helping me, cutting grass, laying tile, cutting something on the saw...... I make sure at least he's familiar with it. He does like his X-box but I do try to limit him. He much prefers to go fishing or play outside.

Speck Attack 09-23-2015 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by DaPointIsDaBomb (Post 773818)
We all originated from Africa then dispersed.

exactly......:D

Speck Attack 09-23-2015 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by alphaman (Post 773820)
How can you say we came to America legally if the American soil owned by indians and then taken away by force (guns) from the Indian. (I say owned the land) they where here first. indians had No documented info to claim the land. we came with knowledge, reading, writing ect. figured out they ( indians) can't read or write so hey we will forcefully take it from them etc.
I'm just saying......
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true true....the truth...:D

mcjaredsandwich 09-23-2015 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by duckman1911 (Post 773841)
A lot of our society is raising a bunch of weak ***, video game playing, scared to get dirty young men. Not even bringing up men just a bunch of over grown boys. Nothing wrong with well educated suit wearing people. The world needs them but it also needs people that are willing to sweat for their pay.

Are all video game players "weak asses"?

I work offshore, in fact I'm working over right now to help pay bills. But dammit do I like to play some video games with my friends when I am off.

Nothing wrong with video games.

pricecb 09-23-2015 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by alphaman (Post 773820)
How can you say we came to America legally if the American soil owned by indians and then taken away by force (guns) from the Indian. (I say owned the land) they where here first. indians had No documented info to claim the land. we came with knowledge, reading, writing ect. figured out they ( indians) can't read or write so hey we will forcefully take it from them etc.
I'm just saying......
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I hate this argument about the stolen lands of the American Continents.

Where does it stop. All lands have been "stolen" from someone. From the English to the Nigerians, Germans and the Arabs. All of these lands are stolen from a civilization that lost war or was overtaken by some other EMPIRE.

The American Indians sided on the wrong side in two major wars. Before there was a USA.

1. French and Indian War (for those that don't know the French and Indians were on the same side.) We (the French and Indians) lost this war. It is also when the British booted us from up north and shipped us to Louisiana.

2. The Revolutionary War. The Indian Tribes in North America sided with the ENGLISH this time and raided towns, villages, and supply routes purposely not engaging with the regular military and destroying crops and killing civilian population. Washington retaliated and destroying all of their fields, villages and any warriors that he could find.

So the American Indians LOST not one but TWO major wars yet continued to rebel and not conform to what would become the USA.

And if you want to see cruelty to the American Indian check out what the Spanish did to them in South America.

duckman1911 09-23-2015 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by mcjaredsandwich (Post 773852)
Are all video game players "weak asses"?

I work offshore, in fact I'm working over right now to help pay bills. But dammit do I like to play some video games with my friends when I am off.

Nothing wrong with video games.

No not at all. Wasnt talking about people who do it just for fun or to chill with their friends. Perhaps I should have clarified that. Our son loves his x box but he plays when he can't do anything else. Was talking about the kind that think going outside is a scarey thing. My brother gripes because his boy will spend the whole weekend in his room playing. I'm like dude you are the dad. Unplug that toy and tell him to do something else. Wasn't trying to take a shot at anyone inparticular

alphaman 09-23-2015 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by pricecb (Post 773858)
I hate this argument about the stolen lands of the American Continents.

Where does it stop. All lands have been "stolen" from someone. From the English to the Nigerians, Germans and the Arabs. All of these lands are stolen from a civilization that lost war or was overtaken by some other EMPIRE.

The American Indians sided on the wrong side in two major wars. Before there was a USA.

1. French and Indian War (for those that don't know the French and Indians were on the same side.) We (the French and Indians) lost this war. It is also when the British booted us from up north and shipped us to Louisiana.

2. The Revolutionary War. The Indian Tribes in North America sided with the ENGLISH this time and raided towns, villages, and supply routes purposely not engaging with the regular military and destroying crops and killing civilian population. Washington retaliated and destroying all of their fields, villages and any warriors that he could find.

So the American Indians LOST not one but TWO major wars yet continued to rebel and not conform to what would become the USA.

And if you want to see cruelty to the American Indian check out what the Spanish did to them in South America.

who was educated and who wasn't in this situation?

sided I'd say isn't a good word to use when dealing with un educated people bc the one with the education will make it seem really good!

duckman1911 09-23-2015 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by swamp snorkler (Post 773846)
You right, even Welders and ESPECIALLY STRUCTURAL FITTERS are a dieing breed. We have old bosses who were fitters who can calculate the measurments they need, some of these your fitters can't cut a piece a channel without a cutsheet




I try to teach my son everything that I know how to do, when I'm changing the oil he's helping me, cutting grass, laying tile, cutting something on the saw...... I make sure at least he's familiar with it. He does like his X-box but I do try to limit him. He much prefers to go fishing or play outside.

Swamp it's great to have a young man that isn't scared to help with projects around the house. Teaches them how to be productive men. My boy isn't scared to do some work. Especially if power tools are involved. Lol

duckman1911 09-23-2015 12:48 PM

Swamp my boy is a senior and makes excellent grades. He is skipping college because he wants to be a welder. Good trade for a young man to have.

Cjleger337 09-23-2015 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by duckman1911 (Post 773871)
Swamp my boy is a senior and makes excellent grades. He is skipping college because he wants to be a welder. Good trade for a young man to have.

Maybe a better route if he knows for sure thats what he wants to do. Trade jobs are in high demand with the influx of people who were told all their life they needed to go to college... get out of college.. no jobs to be had.

duckman1911 09-23-2015 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Cjleger337 (Post 773879)
Maybe a better route if he knows for sure thats what he wants to do. Trade jobs are in high demand with the influx of people who were told all their life they needed to go to college... get out of college.. no jobs to be had.

He has a year and a half of welding in high school and he loves it. Was hoping to finish high school with his welding certification but his senior schedule is not going to allow that to happen I don't think.

BessFishHound 09-23-2015 04:38 PM

I've been tracing my heritage recently...mixed breed. Scottish on one half side, English on another half side, German thrown in for good measure and plenty of French. Almost all arrived in the 1700s and put in a hard couple of centuries work before I arrived God Bless um. Had the Nova Scotia exile with some. Had a Lt General in the Civil War, Kentucky, a lot of farmers.

pricecb 09-23-2015 11:46 PM

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Originally Posted by alphaman (Post 773862)
who was educated and who wasn't in this situation?

sided I'd say isn't a good word to use when dealing with un educated people bc the one with the education will make it seem really good!

The American Indian was no stranger to war and territories. They knew who they were fighting and why.

The French and British both wanted there help in the French and Indian wars. Washington and the colonies wanted the help of the Indians but mostly wanted them out of the war because the could barley arm and feed themselves. The Indians at the time went with who paid them best and who they thought would win the war.

Furthermore
After the revolutionary war the Spanish would arm the Indians in the territories they still owned in around florida so the would cause trouble for people on the frontier. This was to try to keep people from moving west. (Pre Louisiana purchase). Why? The Spanish still owned Mexico and had claim to everything west of the Sabine River. And all of Europe were in wars with Napoleon.
This was to try to keep the U.S. From colonizing and exploring. That president on the 20$ bill defeated them and damn near killed everyone of them when he marched them west.

The Indians were no fools. Stop believing they were trading Gold and furs for cheap trinkets. They truly did lose there lands from wars.

I'm not saying any of it was fair, just or even in some cases humane. Those were tough times and wars were fought different.

It isn't PC to say the truth but these are all historical facts. At least they were in the 80s. I know history has been rewritten in the modern day to make us feel guilty of who we are and where we came from. Who knows.

One other note. I guess the Brits owe us some $$$$ for stealing our land in Nova Scotia? But would we have to pay the Indians or the Vikings for taking it from them first?

meaux fishing 09-24-2015 07:05 AM

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Originally Posted by mcjaredsandwich (Post 773852)
Are all video game players "weak asses"?

yep... and lazy

alphaman 09-24-2015 07:24 AM

I'm just being messy. I like it when it get like this. I'm done. Good Day Fellas.

pricecb 09-24-2015 07:34 AM

Me too. But I wouldn't call this one messy.

MathGeek 09-24-2015 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by duckman1911 (Post 773841)
A lot of our society is raising a bunch of weak ***, video game playing, scared to get dirty young men.

I lay the blame here on the parents who allow this to happen. Our sons are limited to 1 hour per day of video games. Social media is also limited. They can earn some extra time by pursuing outdoor activities. They usually save their extra time for stretches of bad weather when they can't get outside.

There are really three things in tension here:

1. work vs. play
2. outside vs. inside
3. isolated vs. social

Parents would do well to make sure all three are in balance. Don't let society raise your children. Make some decisions, and raise them yourself.

duckman1911 09-24-2015 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by MathGeek (Post 773971)
I lay the blame here on the parents who allow this to happen. Our sons are limited to 1 hour per day of video games. Social media is also limited. They can earn some extra time by pursuing outdoor activities. They usually save their extra time for stretches of bad weather when they can't get outside.

There are really three things in tension here:

1. work vs. play
2. outside vs. inside
3. isolated vs. social

Parents would do well to make sure all three are in balance. Don't let society raise your children. Make some decisions, and raise them yourself.

Yes sir. Having met your children I can say they are some fine young adults MG. You have very respectful and well grounded children and I am happy to have met them.

Duck Butter 09-24-2015 08:21 AM

The truth is we are a nation of immigrants. We took over land that was already "owned" by another group. Many of our ancestors begged, stole, borrowed, and did all kinds of things to get over here and then ran out the indigenous people. Whitey been doing this for ages

BassYakR 09-24-2015 08:29 AM

Doesnt mean we cant stop it from happening again....

duckman1911 09-24-2015 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by BassYakR (Post 773979)
Doesnt mean we cant stop it from happening again....

Very true. We are no more responsible for what happened to native amaericans (mongolian immigrants) than we are responsible for slavery. We have to play the hand we are dealt and make damn sure we win. Mexicans are here by the millions but as a general rule they aren't trying to wipe us from earth. Muslims on the other hand are different. I have no issue with total removal of them by any means needed.

Duck Butter 09-24-2015 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by BassYakR (Post 773979)
Doesnt mean we cant stop it from happening again....

I agree. fine businesses for using illegals


Who changed my avatar?

alphaman 09-24-2015 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by pricecb (Post 773970)
Me too. But I wouldn't call this one messy.

True. messy wasn't a good word to use.

biggun 09-24-2015 11:48 AM

Matt G.

My grandparents are from So. Gueydan .. I Use to speak a little cajun french.. Now as I'm older.. Its one of the biggest regrets I have, not learning and speaking it well...

I'm extremely proud of my cajun heritage. I regret my 2 sons not learning it. There sitter for 2-5 yrs old spoke cajun french fluently.. I should have paid her extra to teach my sons french.

There is power in being able to speak to people in more than one language. I wish I could find someone to help teach me again.. Yes, I agree I see the xbox and video's are a huge distraction ..

I grew up riding my shwinn bike with banana seat and handle bars, streamer's coming out of the grips.. We use to use playing cards and clothes pins in the spokes to make out bike sound Cool..

Anyone here remember doing that??? It WAS COOL..


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