Why Im a Democrat
 

** I tried to put this in the political forum, but was unable to, so please don't move it there**


I may not be able to get a comprehensive answer to this question, being here in the south.

Why/what entices someone to be a Democrat ?

Im not being demeaning, sarcastic, un-respectful or any of that, I am in fact asking an honest want to know question, for I don't know. Why are 150,000,000 people democrats? what am I not understanding?

My wife and I were just talking about this last night "Why do people become democrats?" we both didn't have an answer

Any thoughts on this

Here is 109 million of em

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Yea, and that was 2012. I heard its near 50% now and no doubt why many (but not all) are Democrats.

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they are indoctrinated as young kids just like jihadists.

the old saying was kids grow up as social democrats with liberal minds and once they go out into the real world and experience it for themselves, they learn how those views are wrong and become republicans.

well that only works if they do go out on their own but todays kids live in dads house until they are 50 and never have to learn lifes lessons so this "assumed" idea that its ok for kids to be taught to be liberal is now biting us in the back side.

it starts in high schools and is almost without exception forced learning in all colleges to think and act as a socialist liberal or you are ostracized and made fun of and many courses will fail you if you don't conform to that warped thinking.

until all colleges are cleared of all these America hating liberal teachers and their socialist leanings, we wont have a normal democratic society of people who are capable of rational thinking and open minded objectivism.

that plus almost without exception, most kids first register to vote while still in schools where the teachers tell them to just register as democrats and they can change it later if they want to so the sheer number of registered democrats stems from being taught by liberal teachers that republicans are all that is evil in the world.

so 2 reasons

1 voters vote democrat because they are on the public dole and democrats are the ones handing out free goodies taken from those who work.

2 the reason democrats cant tolerate any non socialist liberal thoughts or ideas is because that's how they were programed to think in school and no other descent or alternate voices were allowed to be heard there.

I think you and I went to two vastly different colleges.

Lmao !!!

Liberal Universities/Colleges
 

Just to add credence to Keakar's assessment of the vast majority of colleges and universities out there, the classrooms of the majority of America's campuses are super liberal!! There is also an alarming increase of kids graduating from college that move back in with their parents....they have all the answers to life's issues in their little liberal indoctrinated minds, and they certainly know how they "feel" about certain issues that are near and dear to their hearts. Problem is that their ideas and feelings don't really work out in the real world. Have them start their own business and see how they like all of the regulations, taxes, quotas, insurance, etc. that the government imposes on them. After an education in the school of hard knocks they'll usually switch to the conservative side of things. Like Reagan once said, "It's not that liberals are ignorant, it's just that they know so much that isn't so."

X2. lol


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SO people are democrats to get a free ride? is that what Im reading?

not all of them in my opinion, but a large portion are democrats only because they get free stuff and a free ride from voting for democrats

you can get full lifetime disability checks by just saying you are too depressed to work and with over 48% of americans on one form of government checks or the other, who would vote for a party saying they will stop such insanity and stop the checks for those who are quite capable of working for a living?

Not all of them. There are definitely those do, however there are some people that believe it is society's responsibility to take care of everyone, including those who make poor choices in life. They believe life should be "fair"

my niece came home from southeastern last week crying because her professor threatened to fail her because she would not agree that capitalism is bad and unfair and liberalism is the only intelligent alternative to fixing this country. I told her while its hard, the school backs these teachers and they have tenure so just do and say whatever you have to do to pass the class and know in your heart that these small minded people are wrong but they do control everything so do whatever it takes to get through it.

its a sad world we live in today

how old are you? because colleges today are on a different planet then those we went to in the 70's and 80's so its not the same as todays environment

26, Graduated in 2013. I should be a prime example of a young mind brainwashed by the system. This is not the case. I was never pressured or molded by any professors outside of the curriculum. I don't necessarily think its the professors, more of the type of students that go to college and are outspoken about the things they care about.

This seems like a cycle, it happened in the 60's.

what was your major out of curiosity?

Yikes.

lol

Natural Resources Ecology and Management, but have taken many humanities assuming taught by liberals.

to sum it up, parents aren't whipping/holding their kids accountable these days..... which to me will result into "crappy" adults MOST of the time

parents tend to point the finger and place the blame elsewhere... I have a little boy 14 months old and I promise you he will be corrected the way I was corrected and will play outside instead of being glued to an iPad(i wont claim he wont have tons of technology around him but he will not be inside all day long while he's with dad)

^just my opinion, a parenting problem which turns into crappy adults, who then reproduce and then it SNOWBALLs

saw a post on FB the other day from a typical liberal democrat talking about the state cutting higher education. She said that college should be free and it wouldn't hurt to cut higher ed .if it was free the only money the college would need is to pay the professors???
The real world is going to be a major shock to this one

Look at who they cater to - unions, trial lawyers, minorities, anyone on any type of gov. Assisstance including social security, women who are pro choice and young adults, that's gonna give you an overwhelming majority IMO

IMHO there are primarily three reasons people are democrats:

1. They are receiving benefits for all types of things and the perception is that republicans will take that away which is not true ( which is another topic all together). Free housing, daycare, education, food stamps, welfare, phones, healthcare. etc. etc. etc. while many are working for cash on the side. When you add it all up they are making more than most of us.

2. They believe "rich" people are evil and have gotten their wealth from robbing the "poor" people. They see the democrats as the party that will get those rich people and make them pay their fair share.

3. They think everyone in society should have the same things. If someone has more than someone else they should have to split it with them. They see democrats as the party that is trying to equalize society.

there are probably alot of other reasons (some being racial i'm sure) but these are the main ones

I'm a libertarian so I wonder why someone would be a republican or a democrat.

Winner Winner!!
 

Ding, ding, ding....WE HAVE A WINNER!!! :work:

Please expand on this, being serious here.

I'd like to say more people are libertarian than they would like to admit, but there's nothing wrong with admitting it. In fact, it's best that they did. Whenever I see someone chanting one side or the other, I sit and laugh because I know their candidate will never live up to what they preach to get elected.

https://www.lp.org/introduction/faq
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Discussion over.... we have a winner.... get the man his chicken dinner.

I read some but not all posts so sorry if I'm redundant. I think this is a great question and a complicated one at that. But I'll give simple reasons.... 1) anti-religion, 2) Lack of knowledge of true American history and understanding supply and demand, and capitalism, 3) they go thru life with child like mentality making decisions based on "feelings of fairness", 4) Are activist in one or more areas, drug legalization, environmental (pick your poison), abortion, sexual perversion (pick your poison). Basically much of it comes from #1 point. Then there are the freebies....too many to list and its already been done anyway. Sure is hard to run against santa claus

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Without getting in to a long political philosophy discussion: I'm fiscally conservative. We support certain ideas like flat tax, cut entitlements, etc... We believe the gov't should be scaled back, not expanded. We are what many would call liberal on social issues but it's really about personal freedom and not limiting that. Also: constitution, constitution, constitution.

This is an interesting discussion.
It seems to me that the root is that the human race is transcending the process of natural selection. The concept of personal responsibility is eroding (not sure if the relationship is causal)......the idiocracy is inevitable.

......and then of course there's always entropy.

Yep. The Left Wing and the Right Wing are part of the same bird

This cartoon pretty much sums it all up. A lot of posturing and arguing.... but no one ever deals with the actual problem.

Hey man, how you been? You still around Polk?

Indeed. Been very busy have not had much time to do much more than lurk around here. :)

Hope all is well with you, and everyone else over here in salty land.

P.s. made it through a half marathon a few weeks ago down in Baton Rouge... (lets not talk about pace)

Thanks for the input, although Im still not able to wrap my head around the whole democratic why of thinking.

The whole mind set of you reap what you sow and enjoying the fruits of your labor I was raised and I have lived by and done fairly good in my life. I feel this is my reward for being a productive member of society. Im actually one of those people that gets really uncomfortable when I am given a gift.

I understand that there are lazy people out there, and that is usually discouraged with "hey get your ARS up and do something" but I guess I have really never been around FULL time life style "TAKERS". Don't get me wrong, I have been around destitute people that need help, Haiti, Guatemala, Nicaragua, Honduras, But those people have not chosen that life, and indeed have absolutely zero opportunity of changing.

Im just not understanding why people in the greatest nation of the world with the most available to them to better their life ("poor" people in America have no clue what really being POOR is) have no ambition of making their life better and are 100% comfortable with relaying on someone else to provide for them.

I don't know...............

1. Poor parenting = kids without any basis for making real opinions thus "going with the flow". 2. Indoctrination. I'm a fairly new graduate who went to a small southern university and majored in wildlife and agriculture. I had many professors in all aspects of my schooling who were staunch liberals and fed at the government trough. They influenced their students, but most students are too stupid to know it.


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It has nothing to do with being a democrat or republican. I can show you areas of north Louisiana that describe everything you just wrote above. And they are staunch republicans.

I'm in deridder now. 45 minutes from the Bend

Holler at me when you want to get after them white perch. Will take you out there and get you on them slabs!

Republican's on the life time free lunch express? RINO?

I have a brother in-law that says hes a Rep, but yet stands for everything the Dems propose. Rinos are the lowest form of life..........
I think he tells people hes a Republican only to save face, but hes all about trying to swindle people as well the government.

Needless to say the RINO brother in law is not welcome at my home.

Not all republicans are conservatives and not all democrats are liberals most republican politicians want to believe they are conservatives but a quick look at their voting history will tell you otherwise. They are all the same to me. They come in and tell you what you want to hear to get elected. And I really think some really want to change things but once they get in office they become complacent. I had big hopes for Bobby j in Louisiana. That didn't work out too well

There are some things in life that you shouldn't bother with, you'll drive yourself crazy trying to fit a square peg into a round hole. One of those things is trying to understand why idiots think like they do.

The tides and moods have shifted between parties I think.......I grew up with everyone around my family democrat......today they are republicans.

I think most people are socially liberal to a point......we want to help the under privilidged and those that simply cannot help themselves

Yet we are mostly finacially conservative......meaning we will only give money for so long.

the problem we all have is we are creating more takers than makers

I think you nailed it, "More Takers then Makers" that's good stuff.
But it's ok we can always just borrow more money from China ohh wait nope they maxed out there credit as well.

In 1887 Alexander Tyler, a Scottish history professor at the University of Edinburgh , had this to say about the fall of the Athenian Republic some 2,000 years prior: "A democracy is always Temporary in nature; it simply cannot exist as a permanent Form of government. A democracy will continue to exist up until The time that voters discover that they can vote themselves generous Gifts from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority Always votes for the candidates who promise the most benefits from The public treasury, with the result that every democracy will finally Collapse over loose fiscal policy, (which is) always followed by a Dictatorship."


"The average age of the world's greatest civilizations from the Beginning of history, has been about 200 years. During those 200 Years, these nations always progressed through the following sequence:


From bondage to spiritual faith;
From spiritual faith to great courage;
From courage to liberty;
From liberty to abundance;
From abundance to complacency;
From complacency to apathy;
From apathy to dependence;
From dependence back into bondage."The Obituary follows:


" United States of America ", Born 1776, Died 2016 It doesn't hurt to read this several times.
Professor Joseph Olson of Hamline University School of Law in St. Paul, Minnesota, points out some interesting facts concerning The last Presidential election:


Number of States won by: Obama: 19 Romney: 29
Square miles of land won by: Obama: 580,000 Romney: 2,427,000
Population of counties won by: Obama: 127 million Romney: 143 million Murder rate per 100,000 residents in counties won by:
Obama: 13.2 Romney: 2.1


Professor Olson adds: "In aggregate, the map of the territory Romney won was mostly the land owned by the taxpaying citizens of the country.


Obama territory mostly encompassed those citizens living in low Income tenements and living off various forms of government Welfare..."


Olson believes the United States is now somewhere between the "complacency and apathy" phase of Professor Tyler's definition of Democracy, with some forty percent of the nation's population Already having reached the "governmental dependency" phase..