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marty f 02-17-2016 11:56 AM

Jeb Bush
 
www.jebbush.com


AWESOME!!!

Flex 02-17-2016 02:18 PM

Saw that. Cold blooded.

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Nickt87 02-17-2016 02:42 PM

I love it. Eat or get eaten

Lake Chuck Duck 02-17-2016 02:44 PM

Jeb Bush is such an embarrassment. He needs to just stop

Creole Fisherman 02-17-2016 03:04 PM

Better yet, check out this link

http://tedcruzforamerica.com/

Duffy.yyz 02-17-2016 03:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Creole Fisherman (Post 787118)
Better yet, check out this link

http://tedcruzforamerica.com/

lmao

Top Dawg 02-17-2016 11:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lake Chuck Duck (Post 787117)
Jeb Bush is such an embarrassment. He needs to just stop

This

PiroguePat 02-18-2016 11:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lake Chuck Duck (Post 787117)
Jeb Bush is such an embarrassment. He needs to just stop


I personally think he's still in the race just to attack Trump / also think he's " heavily" funded by "Who's Who " of the Republican Party . They are scared of "New Way" of thinking by the American Public, you know the one -We've had enough!

Go Trump!


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bjhooper82 02-18-2016 11:16 AM

I was more of a Ben Carson fan but I'm really liking Trump here lately. I really think he's what this messed up country needs.

marty f 02-18-2016 11:19 AM

Trump/Carson??

keakar 02-18-2016 12:39 PM

how about a trump and mr 999 guy from the last election?

THAT would be entertaining tv for sure

Matt G 02-18-2016 03:07 PM

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bjhooper82 02-18-2016 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by marty f (Post 787208)
Trump/Carson??

Yeah, I think that would be a good match.

Matt G 02-18-2016 05:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by marty f (Post 787208)
Trump/Carson??

If that's the case, the Republicans might as well just hand over the office to the crook or the socialist and save their money for the 2020 election. Every one of you supporting Trump is setting yourself up for a major heartbreak. The guy says what he knows people want to hear, no matter how outrageous or far fetched the idea is. Mexico isn't paying for no damn wall no matter how many times Trump said he can make them. And poor Carson....... Nice guy and smart, but way in over his head. He might as well have been sleeping during the last few debates. He'll make us an even bigger mockery on the global stage than what we are now.

marty f 02-18-2016 06:43 PM

I tend to agree about Carson but I was just throwing it up for discussion hence the "??"


and................ the others are offering something better? Ya Trump wants something, but what the other are offering is laughable. Please elaborate on what is better the others offer, maybe Im missing something.

Matt G 02-18-2016 07:41 PM

They really aren't. That's the scary part. This election isn't about the best person for the job cause they all suck. It's about ensuring Hilary or Sanders isn't our next president. Unfortunately, I think the only person who is capable of beating whoever the democrat's candidate turns out to be is Rubio. If Trump is the candidate, you can guarantee that the minority and female vote will be lost, which means the presidency will go to the democrats. I thought Cruz was the one to follow the constitution until he came out in favor of the court order against Apple yesterday. Not to mention the flack about whether he's a natural born citizen or not. Rubio is the safe bet for the White House. He won't make things better, but he won't make them worse either. That's all we can ask for at this point.

fonikoddity 02-18-2016 11:15 PM

Smoke and mirrors, folks


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fishinpox 02-18-2016 11:28 PM

Doing exactly what he planned!

Split the conservative vote so dems can win

Trump is an admitted democrat

Matt G 02-19-2016 06:49 AM

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Originally Posted by fishinpox (Post 787316)
Doing exactly what he planned!

Split the conservative vote so dems can win

Trump is an admitted democrat

^ Bingo. He's been a democrat longer than anything else.

Quote:

Trump's party affiliation has changed over the years. Until 1987, he was a Democrat, then he was a Republican from 1987–99. He then switched to the Reform Party from 1999–2001. From 2001–09 he was a Democrat again, and switched to the Republican Party again from 2009–11. An independent from 2011–12, he returned to the Republican Party where he has remained from 2012–present.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Trump

irokcj5 02-19-2016 07:27 AM

"Trump is a Business Man" that is what his supporters say....I say he's a salesman, not unlike snake oil salesman who's greatest gift is being able to tickle the ears of his audience. I don't trust this man to give him the reigns to my kids and grandkids future, any more than I trust giving it to Bernie or Liar.

fishinpox 02-19-2016 08:01 AM

They are to opposite extremes vocally ( trump and sanders ) who know what trump is really up to . All I know is this country is so f-d right now he is the last thing we need . We need a middle of the road conservative in office that will bring the party together along with appeal to the liberals who are on the fence ( not scare them away like trump)

I've ran my business by puffing out my chest and attacking anything or anyone that gets in my way and beating dead horses..... I can tell you first hand it does not work for long ! Being level headed , humble and fair has help me become more successful than anything

BArmand 02-19-2016 09:15 AM

The political process is entertainment at best. Living in Tecas I have followed Cruz the last few years and there is a reason why Washington hates him. It's because he has gone there and has done exactly what he said he was going to do. Common sense conservative. He's not perfect, but neither was Reagan.

I don't see why we can't have Carson run healthcare, Trump run the economy, etc.... Egos too big o guess.

marty f 02-19-2016 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Matt G (Post 787334)
^ Bingo. He's been a democrat longer than anything else.


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Trump

Please don't tell me you have faith in "Wikipedia"

MAN the interwebs can find you any thing, true, not true, Hal-la-ba-lu
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Quote:

Originally Posted by fishinpox (Post 787316)

Trump is an admitted democrat

Up until the Carter/Regan Election through out the times Democrat and Republican parties have evolved back and fourth conservative/liberal. My Father/Grand Father were both Dems, but were both very Conservative, I was raised VERY conservative, I am a conservative, but NOT a Democrat

Parties Agendas changed (until about 40yrs ago) Peoples out looks change.

Now this Ted Cruise thing, to me its pretty simple, was he born on American soil? NO

Now with that said children born in foreign countries to members of the armed services are. They were sent there by the government of the United States. More then likely born in a military base, which is an extension of the United States sovereign soil.

Just because your mum is a citizen of the US but living abroad on her own free will, does not entitle you to the title of "NATURAL BORN CITIZEN". If an American (lets say a world reporter) goes, to N Korea, China, Russia, Syria, Iran and fathers a child in each of these counties, could we then (in the reasoning of Ted Cruz) have a president from N Korea, China, Russia, Syria or Iran that kept his corresponding citizenship up until he decides to run for POTUS ?

Something to think about

marty f 02-20-2016 10:17 PM

Bye bye Bush!!

PathfinderNI 02-20-2016 10:49 PM

I for one don't want a "middle of the roader".....
 
We've put up those kind the last several rounds in the form of McCain and Romney and many Republicans stayed home. In the words of Reagan, we need bold colors, not pale pastels. If we miss out on a strong conservative leader this round, I don't think this country comes back from the abyss. Heck, we may not even with a strong conservative leader at this point after what Obama has done to us.

marty f 02-20-2016 11:44 PM

Yep

noodle creek 02-21-2016 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by BArmand (Post 787348)
The political process is entertainment at best. Living in Tecas I have followed Cruz the last few years and there is a reason why Washington hates him. It's because he has gone there and has done exactly what he said he was going to do. Common sense conservative. He's not perfect, but neither was Reagan.

I don't see why we can't have Carson run healthcare, Trump run the economy, etc.... Egos too big o guess.

Thank you. Cruz is the ONLY one who will actually do what he says. He's the only one with a voting record to prove it. He's not scared to do what he says, and he's got just as big of balls as Trump. Hell, all the Trump supporters have zero clue what the guy will do in office. Sure he says the right thing, but everything he says now is 180 degrees opposite of what he was saying not too long ago. Blows my mind how many people support him just because of what he says.

If you want someone who will actually do what they say, and is pretty hardcore conservative, go with Cruz. Like someone else said, Rubio wouldn't be bad either. Trump, good luck with that.

Santorum and Paul were very overlooked candidates as well.

Voting records - most important tool for knowing what someone will actually stand for in office.

simplepeddler 02-21-2016 02:12 PM

I agree it's cool to see Trump running a bold campaign where he does not own ANYONE anything......

But he seems to think he does not owe US anything as well.......

scott craft 02-21-2016 03:23 PM

I won't vote for Trump if he gets the Republican Party nomination. I'm tired of voting against people. I'm going to find someone who's platform aligns closest with my values and vote for them whether they are a republican or a third party. Voting in self defense hasn't got us anywhere so I don't see a reason to vote for a poor republican candidate in fear that the democratic nominee will win. This thinking has gotten us candidates like John McCain and Mitt Romney and we see how that turned out.

noodle creek 02-21-2016 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by scott craft (Post 787510)
I won't vote for Trump if he gets the Republican Party nomination. I'm tired of voting against people. I'm going to find someone who's platform aligns closest with my values and vote for them whether they are a republican or a third party. Voting in self defense hasn't got us anywhere so I don't see a reason to vote for a poor republican candidate in fear that the democratic nominee will win. This thinking has gotten us candidates like John McCain and Mitt Romney and we see how that turned out.

Hmm. Anyone is better than Clinton or Bernie. I don't like Trump, and I really hope it dorsn't come down to that, but i'll sure as hell vote for him over whoever gets democratic nomination. If Bernie or Hilary get elected this country is done for.

chuzo 02-21-2016 04:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt G (Post 787255)
If that's the case, the Republicans might as well just hand over the office to the crook or the socialist and save their money for the 2020 election. Every one of you supporting Trump is setting yourself up for a major heartbreak. The guy says what he knows people want to hear, no matter how outrageous or far fetched the idea is. Mexico isn't paying for no damn wall no matter how many times Trump said he can make them. And poor Carson....... Nice guy and smart, but way in over his head. He might as well have been sleeping during the last few debates. He'll make us an even bigger mockery on the global stage than what we are now.

Snake oil seller? Mussolini?
Thanks. Enough with one narcissistic disgrace !!!!

Dogface 02-21-2016 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by noodle creek (Post 787514)
Hmm. Anyone is better than Clinton or Bernie. I don't like Trump, and I really hope it dorsn't come down to that, but i'll sure as hell vote for him over whoever gets democratic nomination. If Bernie or Hilary get elected this country is done for.

Totally agree. The surest way to elect another liberal/socialist is to not vote or vote for a 3rd party.

chuzo 02-21-2016 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by simplepeddler (Post 787505)
I agree it's cool to see Trump running a bold campaign where he does not own ANYONE anything......

But he seems to think he does not owe US anything as well.......

He's own by sooooo many banks. Haven't you seen the facts?

marty f 02-21-2016 05:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scott craft (Post 787510)
I won't vote for Trump if he gets the Republican Party nomination. I don't see a reason to vote for a poor republican candidate in fear that the democratic nominee will win..

You do realize by NOT voting, you are giving the Dems a 1/2 vote, Joe Smo didn't get Bush so hes NOT voting, one vote for HELLary.

Hell I don't like Cruz, But Ill vote for him if hes the nominee. I will give it to the Dems They do stick together, no matter their candidate.

This mind set that "my guys not the nominee so im not voting" is idiotic, selfish, as well un patriotic! Unless one has something to gain by voting Democrat they need to vote Rep, whom ever it is. Hell the last 8 yrs should encourage one to vote, unless you approve of the last 8.

Yeah one NONE voter wont make or break the election, but 1000s have died, so that I can!

scott craft 02-21-2016 05:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by marty f (Post 787522)
You do realize by NOT voting, you are giving the Dems a 1/2 vote, Joe Smo didn't get Bush so hes NOT voting, one vote for HELLary.

Hell I don't like Cruz, But Ill vote for him if hes the nominee. I will give it to the Dems They do stick together, no matter their candidate.

This mind set that "my guys not the nominee so im not voting" is idiotic, selfish, as well un patriotic! Unless one has something to gain by voting Democrat they need to vote Rep, whom ever it is. Hell the last 8 yrs should encourage one to vote, unless you approve of the last 8.

Yeah one NONE voter wont make or break the election, but 1000s have died, so that I can!


Where did I say I won't vote? I just said I won't vote for Trump. I will vote for a third party candidate if Trump gets the nomination.


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marty f 02-21-2016 05:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scott craft (Post 787524)
Where did I say I won't vote? I just said I won't vote for Trump. I will vote for a third party candidate if Trump gets the nomination.


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Maybe I misunderstood you,

But whens its just Trump and Hellary on the ballot, who else is there?

scott craft 02-21-2016 05:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by marty f (Post 787525)
Maybe I misunderstood you,

But whens its just Trump and Hellary on the ballot, who else is there?


There will be plenty of people on the ballot besides the Republican and Democrat candidates. The Libertarian party will have a candidate among others. I really don't think any of the third party candidates have a chance at winning, but if one of those candidates align with what I'm looking for in a president I will vote for them.


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marty f 02-21-2016 05:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scott craft (Post 787527)
There will be plenty of people on the ballot besides the Republican and Democrat candidates. The Libertarian party will have a candidate among others. I really don't think any of the third party candidates have a chance at winning, but if one of those candidates align with what I'm looking for in a president I will vote for them.


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Guess I never noticed, Ive always know who im voting for before I go in, I see my candidate, vote Im out.

Well THANKS for voting,

scott craft 02-21-2016 05:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by marty f (Post 787530)
Guess I never noticed, Ive always know who im voting for before I go in, I see my candidate, vote Im out.

Well THANKS for voting,


I've always known ahead of time who I was voting for too. If you don't know before hand you haven't done any research.


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Dogface 02-21-2016 06:47 PM

Voting for a 3rd party candidate is just like not voting because they have no chance. Remember Ross Peroit??

marty f 02-21-2016 06:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dogface (Post 787544)
Voting for a 3rd party candidate is just like not voting because they have no chance. Remember Ross Peroit??


Depends if they split the REP vote or the DEM vote, Ross split the REP vote, a 3rd party Trump will split the REP vote. If Bloomberg runs 3rd party he'll split the DEMs vote, But in general I agree with you! I personally don't like these "others" on the ballot, kinda like death by a 1000 cuts from within

givemeabreak 02-21-2016 07:30 PM

I'm with Noodle Creek. The Republican nominee(Trump?)would be far better than either Hillary or Bernie in my opinion. At this point, unless she is indicted by the FBI, (and maybe in spite of that), Hillary will be the Dem nominee. if you think Obama is bad, wait until she is pres. You like guns? Better enjoy them now. If she is elected, she has said she likes the Australian model of gun ownership, where citizens don't have the right to defend themselves with them. Obamacare? There was Hillarycare long before anyone ever heard of Obama. Sanders? A proud Socialist! Times are tough for you now? Wait until Sanders starts to tax your paycheck to make it "fair" for everyone else, no matter if they even have a paycheck or not. Third party candidate? Great-cast your vote for someone has no chance of being elected. That will show 'em. Just know that you might as well be voting for Hillary or Bernie. They will thank you for that vote. The American public has had enough of the status quo, hence the popularity of "outsiders" like Trump, Sanders, Carson, and Herman Cain. Trump might not be my first choice, but he is a very successful businessman, who knows how to deal with people and get things done. Sure he is a blowhard, and says things that politicians usually don't or shouldn't, but at least he speaks from the heart and doesn't care if he is politically correct or not. If given the choice between Trump and the Democraticic alternative I would vote for him in a heartbeat.

marty f 02-21-2016 07:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by givemeabreak (Post 787548)
I'm with Noodle Creek. The Republican nominee(Trump?)would be far better than either Hillary or Bernie in my opinion. At this point, unless she is indicted by the FBI, (and maybe in spite of that), Hillary will be the Dem nominee. if you think Obama is bad, wait until she is pres. You like guns? Better enjoy them now. If she is elected, she has said she likes the Australian model of gun ownership, where citizens don't have the right to defend themselves with them. Obamacare? There was Hillarycare long before anyone ever heard of Obama. Sanders? A proud Socialist! Times are tough for you now? Wait until Sanders starts to tax your paycheck to make it "fair" for everyone else, no matter if they even have a paycheck or not. Third party candidate? Great-cast your vote for someone has no chance of being elected. That will show 'em. Just know that you might as well be voting for Hillary or Bernie. They will thank you for that vote. The American public has had enough of the status quo, hence the popularity of "outsiders" like Trump, Sanders, Carson, and Herman Cain. Trump might not be my first choice, but he is a very successful businessman, who knows how to deal with people and get things done. Sure he is a blowhard, and says things that politicians usually don't or shouldn't, but at least he speaks from the heart and doesn't care if he is politically correct or not. If given the choice between Trump and the Democraticic alternative I would vote for him in a heartbeat.

DING DING DING

WINNER!

If a DEM gets in we are more then FOOKED. No guns, no money. I wonder how the gun confiscation would play out, wonder how many American's will get killed over this

Ill vote for anyone to keep a DEM out

bjhooper82 02-21-2016 08:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by givemeabreak (Post 787548)
I'm with Noodle Creek. The Republican nominee(Trump?)would be far better than either Hillary or Bernie in my opinion. At this point, unless she is indicted by the FBI, (and maybe in spite of that), Hillary will be the Dem nominee. if you think Obama is bad, wait until she is pres. You like guns? Better enjoy them now. If she is elected, she has said she likes the Australian model of gun ownership, where citizens don't have the right to defend themselves with them. Obamacare? There was Hillarycare long before anyone ever heard of Obama. Sanders? A proud Socialist! Times are tough for you now? Wait until Sanders starts to tax your paycheck to make it "fair" for everyone else, no matter if they even have a paycheck or not. Third party candidate? Great-cast your vote for someone has no chance of being elected. That will show 'em. Just know that you might as well be voting for Hillary or Bernie. They will thank you for that vote. The American public has had enough of the status quo, hence the popularity of "outsiders" like Trump, Sanders, Carson, and Herman Cain. Trump might not be my first choice, but he is a very successful businessman, who knows how to deal with people and get things done. Sure he is a blowhard, and says things that politicians usually don't or shouldn't, but at least he speaks from the heart and doesn't care if he is politically correct or not. If given the choice between Trump and the Democraticic alternative I would vote for him in a heartbeat.

Couldn't have said it better myself. You are 100% correct!

scott craft 02-21-2016 09:28 PM

Jeb Bush
 
In 2008 I voted for McCain to keep a democrat out, in 2012 I voted for Romney to keep a democrat out, so..... I wasted two votes in an effort to keep a democrat out because the Republican Party couldn't seem to put forth a candidate that most people thought would be a good president.

Look, I totally understand we don't won't Clinton or Sanders in office, that's a no-brainer. But at the same time the Republican Party needs to provide us with viable candidates that people besides far-right conservatives can get behind. I'm not convinced that Trump will make a good president and to be honest I think Hillary will beat him in a landslide and Sanders might even beat him. I know my opinion in this is a bit different than most of you guys and it's definitely not a popular opinion among my conservative circle, but I don't like settling for voting for someone out of fear that if I don't someone worse will get the job.

I guess in the end we all have to do what we think is best and what helps us sleep good at night. I'll vote this November and pray the Lord has his hand on us.


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MathGeek 02-22-2016 01:04 AM

There are several Republican candidates who I would gladly vote for if my preferred candidate does not get the nomination, but I will not vote for whoever the Republican candidate happens to be if his platform, character, and ideas are radically different from what I want in a president. If we always vote for mediocre Republican nominees, we'll keep getting mediocre Republican nominees. I won't hold my nose again and vote for liberals like McCain and Romney just because they are "not as bad" as the democratic candidates.

eman 02-22-2016 07:28 AM

If Trump gets the nod i will vote for him. If he runs 3rd party i will not There is no way a 3rd party candidate can win . All that will result in is a split vote and a demo craptic president.

Pat Babaz 02-22-2016 08:07 AM

I think its gonna end up being Rubio vs Hillary with Trump doing the Ross Perot thing which will guarantee Hillary a victory unfortunately

simplepeddler 02-22-2016 11:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MathGeek (Post 787587)
There are several Republican candidates who I would gladly vote for if my preferred candidate does not get the nomination, but I will not vote for whoever the Republican candidate happens to be if his platform, character, and ideas are radically different from what I want in a president. If we always vote for mediocre Republican nominees, we'll keep getting mediocre Republican nominees. I won't hold my nose again and vote for liberals like McCain and Romney just because they are "not as bad" as the democratic candidates.


so........just curious..............you no vote?

I just cannot vote for a right out liar like Hillary..........or a Bernie, a person that has his ideas needs to live in another country.

IF Trump goes all the way to the Oval office, he will likely be a one term president, he may would not even run the second term once her learns how challenging the "real" life of politicians are.

But at least he will test the tolerance this country has to getting back on a more conservative track. Right now, most republicans are afraid to speak out lest you be called a racist, greedy or homophobic.

Pat Babaz 02-22-2016 01:22 PM

People are angry about the way things are going in this country. They want their candidate to be angry about it too. I think that's a big reason Trump is so popular right now. Jeb Bush had about the same passion and emotion as a limp dish rag


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