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MathGeek 04-12-2016 02:07 AM

Boycott the Saints until they FIRE SEAN PEYTON for proposed CIVIL RIGHTS Violations
 
http://www.wwltv.com/news/local/orle...eath/128665577

swamp snorkler 04-12-2016 06:13 AM

I got rid of my season tickets, threw away all the cups I keep from the games including the NFC championship game ones, wrote Bobby Hebert an email telling him he's not my hero anymore, didn't cry when Hokie and Will and passed on and I'm building a fire right now to burn all my shirts and Jerseys. Thanks for the heads up.

Duck Butter 04-12-2016 06:38 AM

Punish the whole group because of the actions of one individual?

The irony:rotfl:

MathGeek 04-12-2016 07:24 AM

You can't wipe your butt with the 2nd Amendment without getting poop on the whole Bill of Rights.

Duck Butter 04-12-2016 07:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MathGeek (Post 792232)
You can't wipe your butt with the 2nd Amendment without getting poop on the whole Bill of Rights.

Yep, Freedom of Speech:)

seachaser250 04-12-2016 07:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MathGeek (Post 792227)

I don't agree with what he said one bit. However, he didn't violate anyone's civil rights by giving his opinion, even if it's a stupid opinion.

BloodKnot 04-12-2016 07:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by seachaser250 (Post 792234)
I don't agree with what he said one bit. However, he didn't violate anyone's civil rights by giving his opinion, even if it's a stupid opinion.



Well said.

marshrunner757 04-12-2016 08:46 AM

Sounds like a complete liberal idiot to me. I've always liked him as a coach and appeared to be a good level headed person. Time for him to move back to Chicago if you ask me.

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biggun 04-12-2016 09:30 AM

MathGeek

U are the Dumbest A zzz I've ever read. Where is the civil rights violation?? Coach Peyton was just expressing his opinion. Everyone has there right to there own opinion. He lost a friend, player, that was close to him.

If my memory serves me right??? U have expressed your extreme views and opinions on why CCA is the cause for every evil and bad that has happened to BIG LAKE.

I think even about "Why Home schooling is the best thing since sliced bread".

No one on here has hollered for you being banned from this site. U have your own right to express your opinion.

I'd like to see what U would SAY?? If it was your on child, wife, or family member that was shot and killed for no sane reason.

Come ON MAN. Get REAL.

And Before you start bashing me.. I've got lots of shotguns. I've been waterfowl hunting before U were born. So I'm not anti-gun.

Guns don't kill People........ People kill People.

MathGeek 04-12-2016 10:11 AM

Banning guns would be a violation of civil rights, and Payton's comments make it clear he is advocating for additional gun restrictions:

"I hate guns. ... I've heard people argue that everybody needs a gun. That's madness. I know there are many kids who grow up in a hunting environment. I get that. But there are places, like England, where even the cops don't have guns," Payton said.

He looked up information on the internet about the .45 large caliber gun that killed Smith.

"We could go online and get 10 of them, and have them shipped to our house tomorrow," Payton said. "I don't believe that was the intention when they allowed for the right for citizens to bear arms."

"Two hundred years from now, they're going to look back and say, 'What was that madness about?' " Payton told Jarrett Bell and USA Today. "The idea that we need them to fend off intruders ... people are more apt to draw them (in other situations). That's some silly stuff we're hanging onto."

The Right to Keep and Bear Arms is not "some silly stuff we're hanging onto." It is a fundamental civil right guaranteed both by the US and the Louisiana Constitutions.

See: http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300...th-i-hate-guns

Perhaps the problem would be clearer for some if he was advocating taking away the right to vote rather than RKBA.

Smalls 04-12-2016 10:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MathGeek (Post 792246)
Banning guns would be a violation of civil rights, and Payton's comments make it clear he is advocating for additional gun restrictions:

"I hate guns. ... I've heard people argue that everybody needs a gun. That's madness. I know there are many kids who grow up in a hunting environment. I get that. But there are places, like England, where even the cops don't have guns," Payton said.

He looked up information on the internet about the .45 large caliber gun that killed Smith.

"We could go online and get 10 of them, and have them shipped to our house tomorrow," Payton said. "I don't believe that was the intention when they allowed for the right for citizens to bear arms."

"Two hundred years from now, they're going to look back and say, 'What was that madness about?' " Payton told Jarrett Bell and USA Today. "The idea that we need them to fend off intruders ... people are more apt to draw them (in other situations). That's some silly stuff we're hanging onto."

The Right to Keep and Bear Arms is not "some silly stuff we're hanging onto." It is a fundamental civil right guaranteed both by the US and the Louisiana Constitutions.

See: http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300...th-i-hate-guns

Perhaps the problem would be clearer for some if he was advocating taking away the right to vote rather than RKBA.

And some stooge *** football coach isn't gonna change any of that. These stupid athletes, coaches and actors think they can just spout their opinion, and that it's going to mean something.

His opinion doesn't mean any more than anyone else's. If this idiot can't realize that bad people will find ways to do bad things, then that's him.

You honestly believe this idiot can sway political matters? That just shows how dumb politicians, and people, are if they are swayed by what some overpaid football coach has to say.

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biggun 04-12-2016 10:40 AM

Matt Geek

Again.. I guess because of your superior mind.. U feel expressing ones own opinion is a civil rights violation.

I guess if he was anti-fishing you would be calling for his firing also..

Go read my Big Fish Texas title on this site if U want to get fired up about something. I posted it for a friend. These guys HATE RECREATIONAL FISHERMAN....

I'm FOR the STRICTEST of background checks for the sale of all guns.. If U have a criminal record besides miner speeding tickets etc.. You Should NOT be able to own certain types a gun. Domestic violence, drug conviction etc. No guns of ANY type.

But I'm just expressing my own opinion.. The guy that shot Will Smith was a lowlife coward.

Remember most laws are for the every day law bidding citizen.. Thugs and lowlife criminals will always get weapons. Just my 2 cents.

seachaser250 04-12-2016 11:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MathGeek (Post 792246)
Banning guns would be a violation of civil rights, and Payton's comments make it clear he is advocating for additional gun restrictions:

"I hate guns. ... I've heard people argue that everybody needs a gun. That's madness. I know there are many kids who grow up in a hunting environment. I get that. But there are places, like England, where even the cops don't have guns," Payton said.

He looked up information on the internet about the .45 large caliber gun that killed Smith.

"We could go online and get 10 of them, and have them shipped to our house tomorrow," Payton said. "I don't believe that was the intention when they allowed for the right for citizens to bear arms."

"Two hundred years from now, they're going to look back and say, 'What was that madness about?' " Payton told Jarrett Bell and USA Today. "The idea that we need them to fend off intruders ... people are more apt to draw them (in other situations). That's some silly stuff we're hanging onto."

The Right to Keep and Bear Arms is not "some silly stuff we're hanging onto." It is a fundamental civil right guaranteed both by the US and the Louisiana Constitutions.

See: http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300...th-i-hate-guns

Perhaps the problem would be clearer for some if he was advocating taking away the right to vote rather than RKBA.

The bold part is not a violation of your civil rights. Why don't you go join all the other protesters that have nothing better to do than whine about what people say in the media.

"W" 04-12-2016 11:25 AM

He is a Hypocrite to the fullest

If he hates guns them please Sean (communist ) Payton never use our state police with guns on there side to escort you off and on field !

Dude is garbage

MathGeek 04-12-2016 12:06 PM

So if I say we should take the voting rights away from homos, I'm not advocating that their civil rights be violated?

MathGeek 04-12-2016 12:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smalls (Post 792250)
And some stooge *** football coach isn't gonna change any of that. These stupid athletes, coaches and actors think they can just spout their opinion, and that it's going to mean something.

His opinion doesn't mean any more than anyone else's. If this idiot can't realize that bad people will find ways to do bad things, then that's him.

You honestly believe this idiot can sway political matters? That just shows how dumb politicians, and people, are if they are swayed by what some overpaid football coach has to say.

Are you really ignorant of the NFL's attempts to sway civil rights legislation in various states?

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016...-bowl-bid.html

Duck Butter 04-12-2016 12:43 PM

"I am offended by this person's actions, he should be fired" - every liberal SJW ever

Matt G 04-12-2016 12:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Duck Butter (Post 792229)
Punish the whole group because of the actions of one individual?

The irony:rotfl:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Duck Butter (Post 792263)
"I am offended by this person's actions, he should be fired" - every liberal SJW ever

^^^ True story.

Top Dawg 04-12-2016 01:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by biggun (Post 792252)
Matt Geek

Again.. I guess because of your superior mind.. U feel expressing ones own opinion is a civil rights violation.

I guess if he was anti-fishing you would be calling for his firing also..

Go read my Big Fish Texas title on this site if U want to get fired up about something. I posted it for a friend. These guys HATE RECREATIONAL FISHERMAN....

I'm FOR the STRICTEST of background checks for the sale of all guns.. If U have a criminal record besides miner speeding tickets etc.. You Should NOT be able to own certain types a gun. Domestic violence, drug conviction etc. No guns of ANY type.

But I'm just expressing my own opinion.. The guy that shot Will Smith was a lowlife coward.

Remember most laws are for the every day law bidding citizen.. Thugs and lowlife criminals will always get weapons. Just my 2 cents.

So would that make will Smith a lowlife coward since he crashed into the other lowlife's hummer in a hit n run?

Smalls 04-12-2016 01:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MathGeek (Post 792260)
So if I say we should take the voting rights away from homos, I'm not advocating that their civil rights be violated?

Advocating is not a violation. That, as much as some may not like it, is freedom of speech. The action would be as violation of civil rights. I would expect you to understand the difference. Everyone else here seems to.
Quote:

Originally Posted by MathGeek (Post 792261)
Are you really ignorant of the NFL's attempts to sway civil rights legislation in various states?

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016...-bowl-bid.html

No, I am not ignorant of it. One coach is not the NFL. Did anyone with the Falcons say anything about it? No. There is a monumental difference between the NFL threatening to pull millions of dollars and some stupid coach spouting his opinion as if it means something. As bad as it is, money is going to influence political decisions. Does anyone think that if this moron coach said "I'm leaving new orleans if guns aren't banned" that some politician is going to run out and make it happen? He's a football coach for a team that hasn't done **** aside for one season.

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MathGeek 04-12-2016 01:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smalls (Post 792269)
Advocating is not a violation. That, as much as some may not like it, is freedom of speech. The action would be as violation of civil rights. I would expect you to understand the difference. Everyone else here seems to.

No, I am not ignorant of it. One coach is not the NFL. Did anyone with the Falcons say anything about it? No. There is a monumental difference between the NFL threatening to pull millions of dollars and some stupid coach spouting his opinion as if it means something. As bad as it is, money is going to influence political decisions. Does anyone think that if this moron coach said "I'm leaving new orleans if guns aren't banned" that some politician is going to run out and make it happen? He's a football coach for a team that hasn't done **** aside for one season.

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The NFL as a whole is anti gun also.

See: http://www.gunsandammo.com/politics/...un-commercial/

And yes, the Falcons through their weight around to influence the recent civil rights legislation that was vetoed in GA:

http://www.thenewcivilrightsmovement...s_freedom_bill

Keep proving your ignorance with your ill informed nonsense.

Duck Butter 04-12-2016 01:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MathGeek (Post 792271)
The NFL as a whole is anti gun also.

See: http://www.gunsandammo.com/politics/...un-commercial/

And yes, the Falcons through their weight around to influence the recent civil rights legislation that was vetoed in GA:

http://www.thenewcivilrightsmovement...s_freedom_bill

Keep proving your ignorance with your ill informed nonsense.


Have you completely boycotted the NFL then?

Probably so

Smalls 04-12-2016 02:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MathGeek (Post 792271)
The NFL as a whole is anti gun also.

See: http://www.gunsandammo.com/politics/...un-commercial/

And yes, the Falcons through their weight around to influence the recent civil rights legislation that was vetoed in GA:

http://www.thenewcivilrightsmovement...s_freedom_bill

Keep proving your ignorance with your ill informed nonsense.

Calls me ignorant while using the wrong word, in a thread where he can't even spell the coach's name right.

And I'm ignorant?

Did he, in fact, throw his weight around? Sounds like he was just vocal about it. He didn't say anything to the effect of "I'm taking the Falcons out of Atlanta if this bill passes". And the Governor, the REPUBLICAN governor, was against it from the start. Even says so in your little article.

The fact is, this tragedy hit close to home for Sean. If it hadn't happened to a former player, he would have never said a word, even with it happening all the time in New Orleans. He even makes reference to other shootings and how you "don't hear that noise" when it happens in the Lower 9, or New Orleans East.

Before Sunday, none of that mattered to Sean Payton. But because it happened to a friend, he is speaking out.

You sure are showing your true colors recently. God forbid anyone have a different opinion than you.

duckman1911 04-12-2016 04:20 PM

What happened to that young man is tragic but proves one point. Always have a gun. Never bring words to a gunfight. Had he been armed himself he may still be alive. We'll never know now.

Smalls 04-12-2016 04:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by duckman1911 (Post 792279)
What happened to that young man is tragic but proves one point. Always have a gun. Never bring words to a gunfight. Had he been armed himself he may still be alive. We'll never know now.

Thing is, there seems to be a lot of speculation as to whether Smith had a gun or not.

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redchaserron 04-12-2016 04:43 PM

It's a sad state of affairs that people in our country can no longer disagree without being disagreeable. Unfortunately the new norm is to assault an individuals character as a person because of a disagreement with an opinion they hold.

People of all political stripes are quick to paint someone as bad, evil or a dullard because they hold a differing opinion on a political or social issue. Sean Peyton's job is to be a football coach. In that regard he's done a pretty darn good job. His opinion is his own and he's entitled to it (in spite of the fact that I disagree with it strongly). The First Amendment applies as much as the second.

Are we to limit our friends and associations to people who are in lockstep with our own opinions or world view? That would really be boring. I'm very conservative, one of my best friends and fishing buddies is very liberal. We fish together, have fun, crack jokes and on occasion even argue about politics, however I would quickly defend his character against anyone who tried to besmirch it because they don't agree with his politics. He's a good man, better than most. Honest, generous, hard working, successful, great family man and loyal friend. He just happens to have opinions shaped by a different set of life experiences and a different world view.

People need to quit demonizing individuals because they disagree with an opinion. I miss civility.

biggun 04-12-2016 04:45 PM

This was written by a former team; Roman Harper. This is WHAT'S ABOUT. I think there is a Bibical saying" About Casting the First Stone...

This man had 3 very young children. He was Shoot in the Back...


I have mourned for a few days now. I did not want to speak in haste and I wanted my words to be tactful. I will lead off by saying if God can forgive all sins then so can I. Will Smith, my brother and teammate, you will be missed dearly and I still can't wrap my imagination that you are no longer with us on this earth. This tragedy could have happened to anybody, and that's what scares and eats at me the most. Will Smith you deserved better my brother. As a members of the greatest times in New Orleans Saints history I look back at the mindset we all had during those years. We could do no wrong, and the fans loved us so much they would never let anything happen to us saints players. We were treated as royalty. Family to the people and the city. Violence and crime made an exception to us. I'm deeply saddened to see that "our" city has broken that feeling of trust from me. Heartbroken for the Smith family and their loss. Will's children, his beautiful wife Rockie, and his parents are the true victims here. Losing a husband, father, and son is something no one is ever truly prepared for. Will Smith I hate that I will never argue with you anymore. I will not hear you talk about how much "will is always right." Or that I won't be able to call u "big willy style" on our nights out on the town. And I hate that in 3 years we will have our Super Bowl reunion and you will not be there to hug me our teammates in joy of what we all accomplished that year. I do know that Will Smith we will "walk together forever," and you are already truly missed by many. As our captain on the field you helped bring our team, organization, and city together in our championship year in 2009, and in your death you will bring us all back again "CLOSER THAN EVER" in 2016. We Love You and Rest in Peace Will-------Roman Harper 4/12/16

fonikoddity 04-12-2016 05:06 PM

My civil rights have been violated by the use of "their", "there", "they're" on this website. For who's firing should I call?


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biggun 04-12-2016 05:32 PM

Sorry.. I didn't use spell check. I'm the offender.. Sorry I violated your sensibilities. Ah. your Civil Rights.

I use "THERE" instead of "THEIR". Didn't use They're in any way.... I guess I should be band censored for 3 mths. :)))))))))))




Now that I thing about it !!!!!!!!!

But what about my right to use misspelled words??? I think My Civil Rights are being violated by you calling me out about 2 small grammatical errors... :)))))))))))

Oh wait let me go get my gun......My life is in danger. :)))))))))))

CajunSaint 04-12-2016 05:56 PM

I'll just leave this here

Loaded handgun found inside Will Smith's car, NOPD says



http://www.nola.com/crime/index.ssf/...ncart_breaking

duckman1911 04-12-2016 06:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smalls (Post 792280)
Thing is, there seems to be a lot of speculation as to whether Smith had a gun or not.

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Could be. Haven't followed the story much. If he did maybe it was in his vehicle? If that's the case it's worthless if you're outside. Not saying you're wrong just speculating. The outcome may have been the same had he had a gun in hand. To think being armed is the end all be all is a fools dilusion. Guns are much like seat belts. It's not a garuntee but it works better if you have it on you.
Regardless it is a reminder that you never know when your time is coming. It's a tradgic situation.

Baychamp1 04-12-2016 06:16 PM

This is, to say the least, a high profile senseless killing which the anti gun advocates are going to use to their advantage. There's already talk about a second line march & rallys. God forbid handgun laws similar to NYC, where your concealed carry permit is no longer valid, and just about the only way to get one is through the police commissioner, only issued to LE & those well connected. You end up with no effective means of defending yourself.

simplepeddler 04-12-2016 07:19 PM

For me...........the rub is where he lies like Obama.......
there is no place I buy from that will ship a gun "straight" to my house......that is misleading and feeding the stupidity.......

Baychamp1 04-12-2016 07:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by simplepeddler (Post 792291)
For me...........the rub is where he lies like Obama.......
there is no place I buy from that will ship a gun "straight" to my house......that is misleading and feeding the stupidity.......

You're right emotions are high right now & he's said some stupid uninformed shat, but when all of this plays out, our concealed carry permits have to be unaffected, that needs to be the major pushback rather than a boycott of the Saints

fonikoddity 04-12-2016 07:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by biggun (Post 792285)
Sorry.. I didn't use spell check. I'm the offender.. Sorry I violated your sensibilities. Ah. your Civil Rights.

I use "THERE" instead of "THEIR". Didn't use They're in any way.... I guess I should be band censored for 3 mths. :)))))))))))




Now that I thing about it !!!!!!!!!

But what about my right to use misspelled words??? I think My Civil Rights are being violated by you calling me out about 2 small grammatical errors... :)))))))))))

Oh wait let me go get my gun......My life is in danger. :)))))))))))



I'm just exercising my constitutional right to a little good-natured ribbing, sir!

In all seriousness, I think the man was distraught over the loss of someone and decided to open his mouth and voice some opinions that could be considered stupid, depending on what side of the issue you hang your hat.

Unfortunately, these days we read and hear just about every opinion that folks have, even ones they might've been less likely to divulge in a different time.

MathGeek 04-12-2016 07:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by simplepeddler (Post 792291)
For me...........the rub is where he lies like Obama.......
there is no place I buy from that will ship a gun "straight" to my house......that is misleading and feeding the stupidity.......

I'm glad you caught that.

Lies just like Obama.

MathGeek 04-12-2016 07:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Baychamp1 (Post 792294)
You're right emotions are high right now & he's said some stupid uninformed shat, but when all of this plays out, our concealed carry permits have to be unaffected, that needs to be the major pushback rather than a boycott of the Saints

New Orleans has illegally seized citizens guns before (in spite of carry permits), and with enough wealthy, popular liberals in the city proclaiming their support for such tyranny, they may be emboldened to do it again.

In the aftermath of Katrina, a carry permit was vain hope against illegal gun seizures in the Peoples' Republik of New Orleans.

But they might give you your rusty gun back a few years later ...

Baychamp1 04-12-2016 08:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MathGeek (Post 792297)
New Orleans has illegally seized citizens guns before (in spite of carry permits), and with enough wealthy, popular liberals in the city proclaiming their support for such tyranny, they may be emboldened to do it again.

In the aftermath of Katrina, a carry permit was vain hope against illegal gun seizures in the Peoples' Republik of New Orleans.

But they might give you your rusty gun back a few years later ...

Ok but in reality, the TV contracts are a done deal, Saints season ticket holders have already paid installments on their tickets, the cheap seats are gonna fill up according to their record, so you boycott the broadcast & hope you get a Nielson Survey? You're not accomplishing anything.

Baychamp1 04-12-2016 08:55 PM

I can promise you one thing, this is gonna be a gut wrenching funeral if it's broadcast, that's going to spark a lot of emotion in a lot of people. At that point from a legal standpoint as it relates to the 2nd Amendment, it's damage control mode. Past any boycott mode, need to start thinking about preserving our rights!

duckman1911 04-12-2016 09:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Baychamp1 (Post 792302)
I can promise you one thing, this is gonna be a gut wrenching funeral if it's broadcast, that's going to spark a lot of emotion in a lot of people. At that point from a legal standpoint as it relates to the 2nd Amendment, it's damage control mode.

I get what you're saying so don't take this wrong. Why would anyone broadcast that? Why would it be gut wrenching? I understand your point and why it could cause issues for gun owners. Yes it's a tradgic thing but those happen by the minute. If not for the gun issue hardly anyone would know about it. I just don't understand how society thinks. Why get emotionaly sparked over someone you don't know and never would know. It's crap but it happens everyday. I think you are right that it may hqve that effect. Just saying it's pointless because those people didn't care until it benefitted their cause.

PathfinderNI 04-12-2016 09:25 PM

Always like Sean Payton
 
but he definitely needs to stick to football. Celebrities always think their opinions and words mean so much more than the average citizen. He lives in his big house, probably in a gated community and sophisticated alarm system and wonders why people need guns. Wait till he gets robbed at gunpoint or someone shoots one of his kids. Criminals will always have guns, and as the NRA so aptly put it, the only antidote for a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun. Heck, think I'll have to go watch a couple of Dirty Harry movies now.

Baychamp1 04-12-2016 09:42 PM

Those tragic things that happen by the minute go unnoticed, but this is different, like it or not this is the guy who on Feb. 7 2010, caused hell to freeze over, (Payton) at least for one Sunday LOL, he has tremendous influence within the city . All I'm sayin is, if you have to enter that city, or you're a resident, you should be afforded the right to concealed carry, from now til judgement day. (Response to duckman1911)

duckman1911 04-12-2016 10:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Baychamp1 (Post 792314)
Those tragic things that happen by the minute go unnoticed, but this is different, like it or not this is the guy who on Feb. 7 2010, caused hell to freeze over, (Payton) at least for one Sunday LOL, he has tremendous influence within the city . All I'm sayin is, if you have to enter that city, or you're a resident, you should be afforded the right to concealed carry, from now til judgement day. (Response to duckman1911)

Oh I wasn't talking about payton. I was talking about smith. Until a few days ago almost nobody knew who he was. Now he'll be the poster boy for gun activists to use for an agenda. They didn't know him and never would have but suddenly they'll play the concerned friend card. BS. Yeah it sucks he got popped but oh well. Just because he played football it's a big deal. If it had been you or me we may have got a small article in the local paper.
All of the ones claiming to be so concerned will do the same thing I will do tomorrow. Get up, have coffee, go to work and really don't give a fck.

Baychamp1 04-12-2016 11:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by duckman1911 (Post 792331)
Oh I wasn't talking about payton. I was talking about smith. Until a few days ago almost nobody knew who he was. Now he'll be the poster boy for gun activists to use for an agenda. They didn't know him and never would have but suddenly they'll play the concerned friend card. BS. Yeah it sucks he got popped but oh well. Just because he played football it's a big deal. If it had been you or me we may have got a small article in the local paper.
All of the ones claiming to be so concerned will do the same thing I will do tomorrow. Get up, have coffee, go to work and really don't give a fck.

I was responding more so to your comment about "i guess I don''t understand how society thinks" in reference to notoriety, & influence from people like Payton, no harm intended

duckman1911 04-12-2016 11:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Baychamp1 (Post 792332)
I was responding more so to your comment about "i guess I don''t understand how society thinks" in reference to notoriety, & influence from people like Payton, no harm intended

None taken sir. I do understand it but just think it's stupid. If payton was a plumber nobody would care what he thinks. I misunderstood your point and didn't explain mine thoroughly.

Baychamp1 04-12-2016 11:47 PM

Cooling off period is definitely justified, no need for irrational decisions

MathGeek 04-13-2016 08:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PathfinderNI (Post 792309)
but he definitely needs to stick to football. Celebrities always think their opinions and words mean so much more than the average citizen. He lives in his big house, probably in a gated community and sophisticated alarm system and wonders why people need guns. Wait till he gets robbed at gunpoint or someone shoots one of his kids. Criminals will always have guns, and as the NRA so aptly put it, the only antidote for a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun. Heck, think I'll have to go watch a couple of Dirty Harry movies now.

Well said.

keakar 04-13-2016 08:21 AM

ok, so payton is a liberal democrat, so what? sports are sports and politics are politics and I don't confuse them.

liberal democrats are everywhere (unfortunately) and that's why this country is in the crapper but his political views are just that, opinions, and he is entitled to think so stupidly if he wishes (even though all the while, he is being surrounded by armed security on many occasions wherever he goes at any event)

just look at that moron mark zuttenburger (owns facebook) just said. he said trumps idea of building a wall is racist and wrong because stopping illegal immigration would be a crime and everyone should be welcomed into this country and yet he bought every house in the whole neighborhood around his house just so he wouldn't have to live next to anyone???? that's how liberals think, they don't, they just spouse nonsense because they have no clue but would never apply those crazy views to their own safety and security.

jhrsmail 04-13-2016 10:00 AM

This has been said in so many ways already.. but, to break it down. Why, when a shooting occurs "gun control" becomes some legal battle of some kind, when the perpetrator illegally committed the crime anyway. Further gun control IN PLACE wouldn't stop this incident from happening.. :spineyes:

If it's someone's right to bear arms, guess what, if you choose not to, then DONT. We'll put you on the news when an armed robber assaults you, and miraculously you defended yourself, without a gun. cuddos.

PS: for grammar teachers, I know I used too many commas...r is it to, :D

Duck Butter 04-13-2016 10:31 AM

If anyone is go on away their saints tickets away in disgust holler at me I will take them :spineyes:


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