why is LDWF out at Medusa?
 

last week I was fixing to fly in from a rig next to the Medusa production facility way the heck out there in Mississippi Caynon. I see a boat come flying up to the rig and it's a 30-40' LDWF boat with four 300 mercs on the back.
they circle the rig a few times then drive off.

what do u think they were looking for? maybe somebody fishing off the rig?
can they even do anything to anybody out there in international waters?
just seemed strange to me to see ldwf instead of coast guard or homeland security way the heck out there past state waters.

sounds like a monumental waste of taxpayer dollars if you ask me. imagine all the fuel that boat sucked down!

That's a research vessel. Tagging sharks probably.

That's not a taxpayer waste. That would be a budget investment. That's how they work. Alotted budget year to year. You have to make sure all of the money is spent or you get less money next year. They don't consider it a waste at our expense. It's job security for them. Spend all the money and maybe more so they can ask for a bigger budget next year. All the while it's the same people trying to hunt down people that may have an extra duck or fish to eat so they can write a ticket and think they did a good deed. They literally stole money from a person to finaince their life. Possum cops suck. They have that job because they were not good enough to be a real cop.

And not a single frickin dime of that money actually comes from general taxes.

You know you can look up LDWF's funding sources, right? It's all license sales, federal excise taxes on hunting and fishing supplies, interagency transfers, and permit/license fees and royalties that go into the Conservation Fund. Not a single dollar comes out of the general fund, which is where our tax dollars go.

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I'm trying to remember at what point GOD created animals to feed us then asked for us to purchase the right for food. Perhaps I missed that verse?

So mad

I'm not mad. Just can't stand ignorant comments. You can easily look up where LDWF's funding comes from, instead of automatically blasting them for wasting taxpayer dollars without even knowing where it comes from.

Well, when you figure out how to manage wildlife so that it won't be driven to extinction without funding, you be sure to let us all know, k pumpkin?

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Still sound a Lil mad

In response to ****man...yeah, lil mad...lmao!

I've heard that ridiculous argument too many times.

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The way I see it. The people that B...itch and moan are the ones trying to break the rule. But mostly are people that doesn't know the whole story. I'm glad game warden are out and about make me feel safer because they are a phone call away.

http://www.bing.com/images/search?vi...=11&ajaxhist=0Did it look like this? US Customs has gray boats with green markings and run four mercs on the stern

He used K and called me pumpkin. That is a little worriesome. I have nothing against gay people I just don't want them giving me pet names.

Granted I don't think a fee for public land/water use is unreasonable but private land/water most certainly the fee is theft of citizen money.

That license/fee is to use a public resource. No one owns the wildlife or fish just because they walk or swim onto their land.

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So you don't believe in private property rights? On my land I own everything. Everything. If one does not wish to fall under that guide line they should stay away. Be it person or wildlife. If LDWF wants to control the animals that are on the property I own and hunt perhaps I should issue an eviction notice. Give LWFD 30 days to remove all taxed animals from my property. After the 30 days I shoot all of them(animals). I understand that your income obviously comes from tax dollars taken from peoples pay checks so you feel complelled to defend your job. It is a huge theft. Gotta buy your basic license then your deer license then bow license then primative license then turkey license. It is a huge theft. I'm shocked the thieves don't charge a license for each kind of stand a deer hunter uses.

I don't work for wildlife and fisheries, so I'm not sure whar you're getting at. I just have a fundamental grasp on how wildlife management in this country operates, and a grasp on the fact that we would not have wildlife today if it weren't for taxes (pushed for by hunters and fishermen) that fund our wildlife agencies and the enforcement that keeps our wildlife around. Otherwise, we would be in the same state we were at the turn of the 20th century--diminished deer, turkey, and waterfowl numbers due to unregulated exploitation of game populations.

But the fact is, private property rights differ from wildlife ownership. You can post a "No Trespassing" sign on your property, and that is completely legal. You cannot, however, in the state of Louisiana resurrect a high fence and claim all of the wildlife inside as your own. Wildlife is a public trust. No one individual can own it. That is how this country was established and differs so beautifully from European countries where only the rich have access to wildlife.

If you don't like that, don't buy a license. It's that simple.

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My mistake on your employ. No high fence on my hunted land but as long as a critter resides on it said critter belongs to me and will be dealt with as I see fit. Granted I do not believe in killing just to do so but if it eats food on my property I will make it food for me if I can. I don't the LDWF to dictate when or how that happens.

Well, we will have to agree to disagree then. But the fact is, that's not how it works, and you can kill that deer whenever you want, but don't let LDWF find out.

And if it's a duck, well, definitely don't let anyone find out about that.

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But, as long as you got money, you can gate off entire canals and marshlands and claim all the wildlife on the inside as yours. I'm sure, again as long as your name is Gray or Henning etc etc etc, you can erect a high fence as well and claim everything on the inside. This is Louisiana after all.

Didn’t the Busbice boys high fence a crap load of land in Olla also? I’d be willing to bet LA game wardens don’t mess with their place either.

They high fenced their place and I think someone elses property as their own as well.

You can legally high fence in Louisiana.

However, all the wild deer have to be out of the fenced area. It is pretty heavily regulated by the Louisiana Department of Ag and Forestry. High fence operations in Louisiana are no different than cow pastures--they are farms. The deer are classified as "alternative livestock".

Anyone that tells you they have wild deer in a high fence in Louisiana is either lying or breaking the law. They have to import every deer within the fence.

Now, I think even being able to buy deer to put in an enclosure is ridiculous. Someone obviously captured some deer at some point, which is illegal--or at the very least goes against the North American Model for Wildlife Conservation--and started "farming" them.

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Yes, i know its legal to high fence your property in LA. How could you possibly remove or know that you have removed all the deer from the property before the fence goes up? Didn’t they high fence something crazy like a few thousand acres or more? And do they also have to follow the same season dates, and laws that the entire state does?

And Smalls, just to be clear, I’m not asking these questions to be be a smart ***, I’m truly curious.

Well, that's the tricky part (whether the wild deer have all been removed), and I don't know all of the ins and outs, but all deer brought into have to have a permit/tag of some type. So either the wild deer are not going to have a tag, or they are going to be falsely tagged. I believe those outfits are inspected annually, and the permits have to be reapplied for annually.

Seasons are different for farm-raised deer. Runs October 1 to January 31. They can also harvest at any will at any time as long as 48 hours notice is provided and with written approval from the department (LDAF), who then notifies LDWF. They also have to have a harvest permit and a tag for each carcass.

Canned hunts are also prohibited, with a canned hunt being one where you will kill a deer with certainty. Now, how they define "certainty" I'm not sure. Seems like a slippery slope. How would you go about proving that it was a canned hunt if that is based on a harvest being a "certainty"?

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Don't know the ins and outs of the rules but seems to be quick to say you don't follow the rules. Not a shocker. Exactly what happend if I want to high fence and have a lawyer tell LWFD they hace 30 days to remove all citizen owned wildlife from my property because they are trespassing? Nothing I bet but they will still stake claim to them and what I can do to them. I want guidelines from LWFD. If a deer is eating my acorns is it fair for me to reclaim my property? If a duck lands on my pond could he not be taking food from my fish? Am I not allowed to protect what is mine even against animals? Why should I have to pay to protect what is mine? I don't want them there. They need to be removed in one way or another. The state gonna come do that? Nope but they will steal even more money from me if they have proof I do it my self.

Now, I don't have a biology degree, but I expect that at some point even farm raised deer are gonna do the "wild thing" and give rise to new deer in the fence that are legitimately legal but were not imported.

Then there are the case of the state's overly eager bucks circumventing the protective measures and impregnating private farmed does. Do they gotta pay child support? Or does title on the offspring revert to the state?

Inquiring minds want to know~!

I'm not wasting my time with you anymore.




And I would have expected better from you, but I guess that was as foolish as your questions.

Don't you have 3 or 4 degrees? I think you are perfectly capable of searching out and reading regulations, regardless of your biology background.

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MG nailed it. Nature always rules eventually and at what point do certain people think nature was subject to laws and regulation. I don't think people should be idiots but at what point does the gov get to dictate what you do to animals on your property. Sure you can get a license to shoot them if they are destroying crops but that also has to be paid for. To get meat from the woods you have to pay the state to do so. Is that correct? If I own the land I should own what is on it correct? If you disagree please send me your adress. I want to camp on your lawn for a few weeks. Your property but you(by your own arguement) have no say in the matter. I could be just passing through and slept there a night or 2.

MG didn't nail anything. He's being facetious. Or just an obnoxious ***. Either way, every ridiculous question he posed has an answer, I'm just not going to answer them when Dr. Physics can go find it himself.

You are crossing so many different arguments, it's not even worth debating anymore. ****, you can't even tell the difference between private property laws and public trust doctrine.

Go ahead and kill deer and ducks whenever you want if you have a problem with the system that restored all of that game to what it is today.

Just don't ***** and moan when green jeans nails you for the lowlife poacher you would become.

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You're speaking to a brick wall

Smalls is really fun to troll.

You was baitin' dem fields ...

Lol...yes he is

Duckman I notice you are pretty good at baiting the baiters.....

You know that kid thay sees an aint pile and has to kick it? Yeah that's pretty much me.
I would say Smalls is a good guy and knows his stuff. I was just fishing for fun :)

Back to the original question. After 9-11 the United States extended its boundaries out to 200 miles. Medusa is in US Territorial waters, not international waters. Louisiana WLF receives funding from and participates in a Joint Enforcement Agreement with the federal government, they are commissioned to patrol out to the 200 mile limit.