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LaAngler 02-12-2010 01:50 PM

Core 50MG7
 
W when will my reel be here

"W" 02-12-2010 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by LaAngler (Post 113684)
W when will my reel be here


When I get my CHECK:D......... They should hit my steps Today or Monday!!!!........Really I only got 3 if you want one you better let me know So I can get it coming......

You know the price:D

LaAngler 02-12-2010 02:46 PM

order another one sell me one of yours, seriously i can't wait

i can paypal you the funds

"W" 02-12-2010 02:52 PM

Anybody else want a Core mg 50..... I have to order some more....Right now only deal $275...... on a 370 reel puls tax anywhere you go....you would pay almost $400

LaAngler 02-12-2010 02:53 PM

fished with one the other day melts into your hand like it isn't there, basically it's the only way a trout will bite the corky

fishinpox 02-12-2010 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by LaAngler (Post 113715)
fished with one the other day melts into your hand like it isn't there, basically it's the only way a trout will bite the corky

:*****::*****::*****::*****:

cmdrost 02-12-2010 03:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LaAngler (Post 113715)
fished with one the other day melts into your hand like it isn't there, basically it's the only way a trout will bite the corky



oh lord! :rotfl:

meaux fishing 02-12-2010 03:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LaAngler (Post 113715)
fished with one the other day melts into your hand like it isn't there, basically it's the only way a trout will bite the corky

Thats what i heard... :D

Jordan 02-12-2010 03:53 PM

Give me 50 of them. Payment send through laypal ! ***** :thefinger:

Dink 02-12-2010 04:36 PM

That damn word has made it into every thread on this board!!!!!! Sick of it!!!!!..............corky

speckdaddy 02-12-2010 04:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LaAngler (Post 113715)
fished with one the other day melts into your hand like it isn't there, basically it's the only way a trout will bite the corky

:confused::confused::confused::confused::confused:
this is the strangest thing ive ever heard you say. magnesium and saltwater dont mix. but to each its own.

jchief 02-12-2010 06:44 PM

spent so much on Corkies now I don't have the money for any reels!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Salty 02-12-2010 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by speckdaddy (Post 113781)
:confused::confused::confused::confused::confused:
this is the strangest thing ive ever heard you say. magnesium and saltwater dont mix. but to each its own.


That's where the melting comes in.

speckdaddy 02-12-2010 08:11 PM

w hated these things now hes sellin all his curados and buyin cores... oh well at least a shimano dealer will make money offa him lol

"W" 02-12-2010 08:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by speckdaddy (Post 113862)
w hated these things now hes sellin all his curados and buyin cores... oh well at least a shimano dealer will make money offa him lol

:pissed::pissed::pissed::pissed::pissed::pissed: Did you not hear Bruce its the only reel you can catch on with a Corky:D

speckdaddy 02-12-2010 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by "W" (Post 113864)
:pissed::pissed::pissed::pissed::pissed::pissed: Did you not hear Bruce its the only reel you can catch on with a Corky:D

:shaking::shaking::shaking::shaking::shaking::shak ing::shaking:

Salty 02-12-2010 09:53 PM

I'm swappin' my Cores for Scorpions. Same reel but no magnesium.

wtretrievers 02-12-2010 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by jchief (Post 113804)
spent so much on Corkies now I don't have the money for any reels!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Thats like selling your truck to get gas money.:confused:

LaAngler 02-12-2010 10:24 PM

the old mg and salt arguement is played out, the technology allows hard inshore use now. and that's a fact

Salty 02-12-2010 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by LaAngler (Post 113959)
the old mg and salt arguement is played out, the technology allows hard inshore use now. and that's a fact


That is.......if you baby 'em. Treat 'em like a Curado and you're dead in the water.

speckdaddy 02-13-2010 08:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Salty (Post 113962)
That is.......if you baby 'em. Treat 'em like a Curado and you're dead in the water.

thank you salty:p its played out? how? facts are facts .magnesium corrodes in saltwater.doesnt matter if ya baby em or not.it will corrode.you and w are so self righteous.its good if ya say it is.pfffffffffft

"W" 02-13-2010 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by speckdaddy (Post 114041)
thank you salty:p its played out? how? facts are facts .magnesium corrodes in saltwater.doesnt matter if ya baby em or not.it will corrode.you and w are so self righteous.its good if ya say it is.pfffffffffft




:eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:

speckdaddy 02-13-2010 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by "W" (Post 114060)
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:eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:

yep thats right .if yall say the sun is purple,you will argue till no tomorrow that you are right. its ok ta say,im wrong,your right. all im sayin is that magnesium and saltwater donot mix..it doesnt matter how far technology has come, or how far it will go.if its made of magnesiun, and ya use it in saltwater environments, IT WILL CORRODE. nuff said.if not, lets argue some more:spineyes:

"W" 02-13-2010 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by speckdaddy (Post 114063)
yep thats right .if yall say the sun is purple,you will argue till no tomorrow that you are right. its ok ta say,im wrong,your right. all im sayin is that magnesium and saltwater donot mix..it doesnt matter how far technology has come, or how far it will go.if its made of magnesiun, and ya use it in saltwater environments, IT WILL CORRODE. nuff said.if not, lets argue some more:spineyes:


I never said it would not corrode.......It has a 2 year warrenty.,,,:D

Who Pissed in your Fruit Loops:confused:

huntin fool 02-13-2010 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by "W" (Post 114066)
I never said it would not corrode.......It has a 2 year warrenty.,,,:D

Who Pissed in your Fruit Loops:confused:


Its cheerio's not fruit loops, fruit loop :cool:

speckdaddy 02-13-2010 11:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by "W" (Post 114066)
I never said it would not corrode.......It has a 2 year warrenty.,,,:D

Who Pissed in your Fruit Loops:confused:

didnt piss,crapped in it...lol does the warranty cover corrosion?

"W" 02-13-2010 11:14 AM

:smokin:
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Originally Posted by speckdaddy (Post 114072)
didnt piss,crapped in it...lol does the warranty cover corrosion?

it Better its SHIMANO.......Its kind of like MIKE.....Just DO it:smokin:

speckdaddy 02-13-2010 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by "W" (Post 114074)
:smokin:

it Better its SHIMANO.......Its kind of like MIKE.....Just DO it:smokin:

Tell ya what w. I've held those reels atya house and did my homework. If you can show me where it says shimano will cover a reel that they say isfor freshwater use only from corrosion from saltwater use, I'll buy five right now and cut ya grass fir a year. Deal? If you can't ,
you give you core to someone at the tourney. Waddaya say

Montauk17 02-13-2010 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by "W" (Post 114074)
:smokin:

it Better its SHIMANO.......Its kind of like MIKE.....Just DO it:smokin:

Nike??

speckdaddy 02-13-2010 12:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Montauk17 (Post 114084)
Nike??

Hello. Jordan. Wake up. Lol

all star rod 02-13-2010 04:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by speckdaddy (Post 114063)
yep thats right .if yall say the sun is purple,you will argue till no tomorrow that you are right. its ok ta say,im wrong,your right. all im sayin is that magnesium and saltwater donot mix..it doesnt matter how far technology has come, or how far it will go.if its made of magnesiun, and ya use it in saltwater environments, IT WILL CORRODE. nuff said.if not, lets argue some more:spineyes:



Talked to the owner of a well-know tackle and bait shop in the BR area about the CORE 50 & 100 and he told me they are not really made for saltwater! This guy is a major Shimano repair guy and of course sell a boat load of them at his buisness! POX you probably know who I am talking about!!!

fishinpox 02-13-2010 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by all star rod (Post 114120)
Talked to the owner of a well-know tackle and bait shop in the BR area about the CORE 50 & 100 and he told me they are not really made for saltwater! This guy is a major Shimano repair guy and of course sell a boat load of them at his buisness! POX you probably know who I am talking about!!!

i met a shimano rep that was in town for ohio last wednesday and he said that any shimano with the s arb bearings in them is approver for saltwater use by shimano .
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http://fish.shimano.com/publish/cont...dash.75.53.gif S A-RB Bearings

These bearings have been through the same process as our A-RB bearings, but feature shields on both sides of the bearings that reduce the possibility of salt or sand inhibiting the bearing's rotation.

"W" 02-13-2010 07:04 PM

Here is a email from my Shimano Guy.........today

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John....

Will the Core 50mg rust or corrode fishing saltwater? Please give me the truth on the reels and from what you know.

Jeremy Waltrip
Intertek - KCS / Apache Area 7
Measurement Technician
Office: 337-774-5992
Fax: 337-774-5994
Cell: 337-789-9002
Email: jeremy.waltrip@intertek.com


Jeremy

The Core 50mg is made with magnesium and this is what guys think is a saltwater no. I have been with Shimano for 20 years and I can tell you, that the Core model is built right for saltwater. Shimano is made with the best the market has to offer and if you ever have any corrosion from saltwater you just send me that reel back. I deal with a few captains out of Texas who stay ninety percent of their fishing time in the water! Core 100 is my best selling reel to this area of guys. I still believe the Curado model is by far the toughest out of all the Shimano reels just because of fewer problems due to the high number of reels in public. I put my word on the core 50mg along with some of the other reels! Jeremy If I did not think for one second the Core would not hold up in saltwater, I never would have introduced you to the reel

Thanks
Best Regards

all star rod 02-13-2010 07:35 PM

W, this reminds me of the email you said you got from the BCS about LSU!!!!:*****::*****:
Remember only 2 teams MAX from BCS conference will be chosen for BCS bowls!!:*****:

BTW, I can care less if they are good for saltwater or not.....I have Curados and Chronarch....I have spent enough $$$ on reels

meaux fishing 02-13-2010 07:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by W";114140]Here is a email from my Shimano Guy.........today

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John....

Will the Core 50mg rust or corrode fishing saltwater? Please give me the truth on the reels and from what you know.

Jeremy Waltrip
Intertek - KCS / Apache Area 7
Measurement Technician
Office: 337-774-5992
Fax: 337-774-5994
Cell: 337-789-9002
[FONT=Arial]Email: [EMAIL="jeremy.waltrip@intertek.com
jeremy.waltrip@intertek.com[/EMAIL][/FONT]


Jeremy

The Core 50mg is made with magnesium and this is what guys think is a saltwater no. I have been with Shimano for 20 years and I can tell you, that the Core model is built right for saltwater. Shimano is made with the best the market has to offer and if you ever have any corrosion from saltwater you just send me that reel back. I deal with a few captains out of Texas who stay ninety percent of their fishing time in the water! Core 100 is my best selling reel to this area of guys. I still believe the Curado model is by far the toughest out of all the Shimano reels just because of fewer problems due to the high number of reels in public. I put my word on the core 50mg along with some of the other reels! Jeremy If I did not think for one second the Core would not hold up in saltwater, I never would have introduced you to the reel

Thanks
Best Regards

who fishes out of the water....:p:p

all star rod 02-13-2010 07:45 PM

If you notice he does not say "SALTWATER"!!!!! W is not worried, he works for NASA....BIG $$$$$$$$......

"W" 02-13-2010 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by meaux fishing (Post 114151)
who fishes out of the water....:p:p


He is talking about waders:shaking::shaking::shaking: If you ever waded you know your reels get wet the whole time:shaking:

all star rod 02-13-2010 08:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by W";114140]Here is a email from my Shimano Guy.........today

---------------------------------------------------------------------------------
John....

Will the Core 50mg rust or corrode fishing saltwater? Please give me the truth on the reels and from what you know.

Jeremy Waltrip
NASA - KCS / Apache Area 7
Measurement Technician
Office: 337-774-5992
Fax: 337-774-5994
Cell: 337-789-9002
[FONT=Arial]Email: [EMAIL="jeremy.waltrip@[B]NASA[/B].com
jeremy.waltrip@NASA.com[/EMAIL][/FONT]


Jeremy

The Core 50mg is made with magnesium and this is what guys think is a saltwater no. I have been with Shimano for 20 years and I can tell you, that the Core model is built right for saltwater. Shimano is made with the best the market has to offer and if you ever have any corrosion from saltwater you just send me that reel back. I deal with a few captains out of Texas who stay ninety percent of their fishing time in the water! Core 100 is my best selling reel to this area of guys. I still believe the Curado model is by far the toughest out of all the Shimano reels just because of fewer problems due to the high number of reels in public. I put my word on the core 50mg along with some of the other reels! Jeremy If I did not think for one second the Core would not hold up in saltwater, I never would have introduced you to the reel
HOUSTON WE HAVE A PROBLEM....

Thanks
Best Regards



W, on one of your comments you stated that Shimano has a 2 year warranty on the CORE........So, if the reel fails within two years it will be replaced no question asked??????

speckdaddy 02-13-2010 08:27 PM

then why oh why does it say for fresh water use only??? i wanna know if they will warranty these reels if puposely used in saltwater.if they do,,,,i will buy 5 right now. email ya boy and tell em ta say that he will warranty em. and ill buy em

"W" 02-13-2010 08:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by all star rod (Post 114167)
W, on one of your comments you stated that Shimano has a 2 year warranty on the CORE........So, if the reel fails within two years it will be replaced no question asked??????

Quote:

Originally Posted by speckdaddy (Post 114170)
then why oh why does it say for fresh water use only??? i wanna know if they will warranty these reels if puposely used in saltwater.if they do,,,,i will buy 5 right now. email ya boy and tell em ta say that he will warranty em. and ill buy em


You guys read it as clear as i did in his email........If it corrodes send it back to him.......... I dont know about any others who use this reel but I will have 4 total when I come in .... and if anything goes wrong with them....He said it himself send it back I will replace it............. I never had a major problem with the curado but he told me the same thing....

So I feel safe with the core mg 50...... If you guys dont...so be it...Its a smooth reel and light...... I have two curados left for back up if i need...but Like John said if he was worried he would not of gave me the fist Core for $150 to demo it.....He knows I only fish Saltwater and he told me on the phone thats why he gave it to me for $150 because I would come back for more..... I did.... :p

all star rod 02-13-2010 08:42 PM

W if the told you then I am sure he will back up his word. Good luck with them.....I have 3 Curados and 1 Chronarch thru with buying reels for some time!
BTW, when we going on that fishin trip????

"W" 02-13-2010 08:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by all star rod (Post 114179)
W if the told you then I am sure he will back up his word. Good luck with them.....I have 3 Curados and 1 Chronarch thru with buying reels for some time!
BTW, when we going on that fishin trip????






When your wife lets you go...........P Whipped again:*****::*****::*****::*****:


Lets go next Mon or Tues:D

"W" 02-13-2010 08:53 PM

Speckdaddy and ASR.........Here is what he just sent me BACK......you bunch of Core Haters...

The Shimano Core 50Mg7



Shimano’s latest magnesium baitcast reel has finally hit the scene in America under the “Core” line up of reels. Introduced earlier this year in Japan, as the “Aldebaran”, this reel is touted as Shimano’s smallest and lightest baitcaster ever. Many bass anglers (including myself) have been waiting for this diminutive wonder to makes it way over to the United States. Thankfully Shimano delivered this past summer during ICAST 2009. Much like the previous generation JDM Scorpion 1000 came to be the US Chronarch 50 Mg. It only seemed inevitable for this platform to assume top position as Shimano North America’s domestic lightweight since the 50Mg was discontinued late last year. While the two reels target two different price points, it’s only natural that those interested in the new 50Mg7 are in fact fans of the 50Mg.
Initial Impressions:
Holding the new Core 50Mg7 is certainly an eye opening experience. Its ultra low profile frame is a substantial departure from those used to palming the round shaped platform utilized for the Chronarch 50Mg reels. This all new profile has a much lower stance and has much more aggressive geometry that is very much like last years Curado E, albeit much more compact. The 50Mg7’s 80mm handle is almost the same the 50Mg’s were it not for the inclusion of two S A-RB ball bearings under each knob. The 50Mg7’s red accents, black frame and tapered TI level wind insert are all reminiscent of the larger 100 size Core reels. Septon grips are standard on this reel as is the 1/8th turn easy access side plate found on last years Curado E platform.
Performance:
With a measured weight of 5.565 oz this reel is certainly a joy to fish soft plastics with for any extended period of time. Palmability is excellent, even with respect to other diminutive bass reels like the highly touted Daiwa Steez. This reel easily casts ¼ oz baits on 10lb to 14lb mono and is appreciable at chucking even 1/8oz lures with the right rod and 4-8lb line. Its excellent castability can mainly be attributed to its diminutive spool size, which is in fact smaller than the 50Mg spool, and the inclusion of a tapered titanium level wind insert. The stock drag is capable for majority of bass fishing applications topping out at over 10lbs. This is much better than the Chronarch 50Mgs miniscule 5.5lbs which has certainly caused some terse moments when hooking into a lunker on braid. While I wouldn’t hesitate to flip with the Core 50Mg7, it wouldn’t necessarily be my first choice.
Aesthetics/ Refinement:
The black and red coloring of the Core series of reels certainly is attractive when paired up with a domestic spilt grip rod such as the Shimano Cumara. The subtle red highlighting around the cast control cap and handle porting is rather “sporty”, compared to the subtle TDZ esq finish on the JDM Aldebaran. Also, with regards to the TDZ, one can’t help but see the angular frame geometry and drag star are quite reminiscent of the now defunct lineup. The glossy surface treatment is a familiar and welcome element, especially on magnesium based reels such as this one. I’ve always liked this coating as the rather matte finish found on Daiwa’s TDZ and Steez always seemed more prone to the perils of boat rash. Despite the inclusion of this coating on the 50Mg7 Shimano still recommends the utilization of “preventative maintenance” after use in saltwater.
Overall refinement for the Core 50Mg7, while a level above the original Core 100 and the Chronarch 50Mg, is still below Daiwa’s flagship Steez. To be fair the Steez and Core 50Mg7 aren’t on the same playing field since the Steez retails for over $100 more. While the Core’s clicking dragstar, bearing supported knobs, and 1/8 turn access hatch are tight; that notorious Shimano “back play” is still present. However, incorporation of HEG gives the 50Mg7 a more refined and powerful retrieve over the 50Mg. The lack of a clicking cast control knob, while not really necessary, is still apparent, and would be greatly appreciated for a reel at this price point.
Value:
With a retail of over a $120 more than the old Chronarch 50Mg many anglers might have themselves asking if forking over the $369.99 retail is in fact worth the price delta to step up to the Core. My answer to that question would be…it depends. Given such a wide price gap between the two I will definitively state the Core 50Mg7 is a more refined and lower profile performance package as you would expect it to be. Weight difference between the two remains negligible at .4oz and casting performance is about the same and would almost be a mute point if you were to supplant ceramic spool bearings in either. In reality it all boils down to application, personal taste, and budgetary concerns. If you’re a diehard Shimano fan and want the smallest low profile baitcaster they’ve ever offered, then go ahead and indulge in a Core 50Mg7. However, if you are one of those anglers that absolutely loves the Chronarch 50Mg and can’t see using anything else for a long time to come, well then scour the net and pick up another one. Regardless of your choice, you wont regret the aquistion of either as you’ll end up with a quality magnesium framed reel that should serve you for many years to come.
Conclusion:
The Shimano Core 50Mg7 proves to be quite the performer. It truly is a small, durable, saltwater safe, domestic market finesse reel. The palmability of its diminutive frame is much appreciated, especially for those who love lightweight reels. Its new and aggressive shape becomes more addicting every time I take it out on the water. As a result, it will ultimately become a staple in my arsenal. In summation, the Core 50Mg7 is a sweet reel that would make a great addition to any bass anglers baitcasting line up.

all star rod 02-13-2010 08:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by "W" (Post 114181)
When your wife lets you go...........P Whipped again:*****::*****::*****::*****:


Lets go next Mon or Tues:D
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Good with me......when you getting back from your hitch with NASA????
Man when we go, POX will be one jealous MOFO!!!:*****:

"W" 02-13-2010 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by all star rod (Post 114184)
Good with me......when you getting back from your hitch with NASA????
Man when we go, POX will be one jealous MOFO!!!:*****:


were launching two missions one on this coming Monday and then Tues ...So I will Landing back on earth Wed afternoon.... (Weather permits you know how us NASA guys watch the weather).....

all star rod 02-13-2010 09:08 PM

Kool...I will touch base with you the ladder part of the week.....Acutually going to Lake Chuck TUES and WED for buisness. Week of the 22nd is good with me! Cannot wait to see you in your GOT NICK shirt....well come to think of it, since you are now a BAMA fan, I may get you to wear LSU gear.....:*****:

speckdaddy 02-14-2010 07:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by "W" (Post 114181)
When your wife lets you go...........P Whipped again:*****::*****::*****::*****:


Lets go next Mon or Tues:D
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dont count on it...im still waitin from last friday....i got suckered :eek:

"W" 02-14-2010 07:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by speckdaddy (Post 114256)
dont count on it...im still waitin from last friday....i got suckered :eek:



:eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:Did I go last Fri?.... I went Sat. I think

huntin fool 02-14-2010 10:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by "W" (Post 114257)
:eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:Did I go last Fri?.... I went Sat. I think


you went friday and sat

"W" 02-14-2010 10:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deadly D (Post 114285)
Friday ya caught some fishies and Saturday I knocked you out:*****:

Quote:

Originally Posted by huntin fool (Post 114287)
you went friday and sat


I'm glad yall keep up........Just remembered but we did not go out to late afternoon.....I had a meeting that morning


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