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"W" 02-23-2010 07:29 PM

Weirs........
 
About two years ago I was sitting on my tailgate drinking a few beers talking with a guide about redfish at the weirs! We were discussing the number of reds taken each day.......

In our discussion we talked about how the weirs are not good for our lake but yet trap our fish!!!

We both agreed that the weirs should be off limits to fishing for 1000 feet both ways! This give our fish a chance to leave with out having 50 jig heads thrown at them!

What do you guys think about making the weirs off limits for fishing? Making a 1000 feet rule

Salty 02-23-2010 07:31 PM

Sounds like a great idea...just get a bigger spool.

Jordan 02-23-2010 07:35 PM

I agree with salty. W. That's ur hot spot man!

Mediumheavyaction6'6 02-23-2010 07:36 PM

that sounds like a great idea.....but you will never get most of the people who fish that area to agree with you. there is not an ounce of conservation in most people in this state. people still believe they can pay for their boats if they bring enough fish home. conservation won't occur here until it is called replenishing the stock.

Salty 02-23-2010 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Mediumheavyaction6'6 (Post 118019)
that sounds like a great idea.....but you will never get most of the people who fish that area to agree with you. there is not an ounce of conservation in most people in this state. people still believe they can pay for their boats if they bring enough fish home. conservation won't occur here until it is called replenishing the stock.


Truer words were never spoken. It's sad...but, it's true.

huntin fool 02-23-2010 07:43 PM

Why not leave them as is???



Not everybody can get out and fish every weekend like some. Not everybody knows every reef out there like some. And not everybody cares what size of fish, they go for meat. And the weirs are a place,for people to catch MEAT. Don't fix something that don't need fixing.
You got to take a step back and think about other people, than the big name fishermen.
And don't say well you need to for conservation. You,your self waltrip even said you can't outfish big lake with a rod-n-reel.


Yall sound like women, always complaining about something

Bluechip 02-23-2010 07:43 PM

I would say to allow "Youth Fishing" with in so many feet of the weirs...kinda like the youth hunting days.

It's always exciting to watch a young one fighting a redfish on a zebco.

Salty 02-23-2010 07:46 PM

I propose filling in the entire lake.

"W" 02-23-2010 07:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by huntin fool (Post 118025)
Why not leave them as is???



Not everybody can get out and fish every weekend like some. Not everybody knows every reef out there like some. And not everybody cares what size of fish, they go for meat. And the weirs are a place,for people to catch MEAT. Don't fix something that don't need fixing.
You got to take a step back and think about other people, than the big name fishermen.
And don't say well you need to for conservation. You,your self waltrip even said you can't outfish big lake with a rod-n-reel.


Yall sound like women, always complaining about something


:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

Does your mom need to change your diaper????

huntin fool 02-23-2010 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by "W" (Post 118029)
:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

Does your mom need to change your diaper????


No it just gets old. uhh why did we create this site? To get away from Whinners, and guess what? thats all i see here.

Salty 02-23-2010 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by "W" (Post 118029)
:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

Does your mom need to change your diaper????

He's old enough to change his own.

Mediumheavyaction6'6 02-23-2010 07:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by huntin fool (Post 118025)
Why not leave them as is???



Not everybody can get out and fish every weekend like some. Not everybody knows every reef out there like some. And not everybody cares what size of fish, they go for meat. And the weirs are a place,for people to catch MEAT. Don't fix something that don't need fixing.
You got to take a step back and think about other people, than the big name fishermen.
And don't say well you need to for conservation. You,your self waltrip even said you can't outfish big lake with a rod-n-reel.


Yall sound like women, always complaining about something

fool, you of all people should be out there advocating for conservation. your children will be less fortunate than you are. i am not a real big environmentalist but i see that if resources that are constantly taken by people who are unchecked are going to run out sooner than later. the way i see it, the best hunting clubs in this state and country are successful because of culling practices as well as conservation efforts. if we want the biggest and healthiest fish possible we should control the MEAT fishermen as you call them. just my .02

Salty 02-23-2010 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Deadly D (Post 118032)
WE what did you build here:confused:


I'm wonderin' the same thing. :eek:

adamsfence 02-23-2010 07:54 PM

Im with fool I kinda disagree with guides filling there boat everyday but a lot of people don't have time to go all the time like me I go maybe 1 time a month and don't know all the spots like most of y'all

Salty 02-23-2010 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by adamsfence (Post 118035)
Im with fool I kinda disagree with guides filling there boat everyday but a lot of people don't have time to go all the time like me I go maybe 1 time a month and don't know all the spots like most of y'all

If those weirs are ever seriously discussed for closing....I doubt this reason will weigh in at all to keep them open.

huntin fool 02-23-2010 08:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deadly D (Post 118032)
WE what did you build here:confused:


Sorry typo...Dang D aint gotta jump me :shaking:

adamsfence 02-23-2010 08:01 PM

oh I know but it is still nice too have them as a backup after I am fixing to scratch

huntin fool 02-23-2010 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Mediumheavyaction6'6 (Post 118033)
fool, you of all people should be out there advocating for conservation. your children will be less fortunate than you are. i am not a real big environmentalist but i see that if resources that are constantly taken by people who are unchecked are going to run out sooner than later. the way i see it, the best hunting clubs in this state and country are successful because of culling practices as well as conservation efforts. if we want the biggest and healthiest fish possible we should control the MEAT fishermen as you call them. just my .02

I'm thinking for my generation bud, look at your fishing rulebook/phamplet. Now, you see all these rules and regs, yall keep wanting to add more rules, pretty soon, my "generation" isn't even going to be able to keep a darn fish!

Like i said,"don't fix it if it aint broken"

Mediumheavyaction6'6 02-23-2010 08:06 PM

sorry to bother you little buddy

Mediumheavyaction6'6 02-23-2010 08:11 PM

well, it is not very often that i agree with the starter of this thread but....i have to admit I am one of those people who fish for the sport not the meat so i would like to see lower limits and regulations that don't allow people to wheel up to a spot and load the boat. i don't see the sport in that. i know i am in the minority on this one so let the bashing begin!

adamsfence 02-23-2010 08:18 PM

i am just saying i limit out at the jetties all the time are we going to close that next

"W" 02-23-2010 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by adamsfence (Post 118055)
i am just saying i limit out at the jetties all the time are we going to close that next


Jetties is open water 50ft deep 1mile long and 500yards or more wide...



Weirs are small and its a one way in and one way out deal........Im not for lowering the limit on reds just dont allow fishing for 1000 on any structure...let the fish go in and out to lake or marsh then catch them.......

Salty 02-23-2010 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by "W" (Post 118067)
Jetties is open water 50ft deep 1mile long and 500yards or more wide...



Weirs are small and its a one way in and one way out deal........Im not for lowering the limit on reds just dont allow fishing for 1000 on any structure...let the fish go in and out to lake or marsh then catch them.......

6,000 posts and he finally makes sense. I don't agree with this beotch much but he's right on track here.

adamsfence 02-23-2010 08:30 PM

i guess im just not down there enough to see a problem i dont think you are going to fish big lake out of reds by fishing one very small part of the lake

Fishmaster 02-23-2010 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Salty (Post 118070)
6,000 posts and he finally makes sense. I don't agree with this beotch much but he's right on track here.

First the saints won the superbowl then salty agreeing with W, hell has to be frozen over.......................:eek:

"W" 02-23-2010 08:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adamsfence (Post 118072)
i guess im just not down there enough to see a problem i dont think you are going to fish big lake out of reds by fishing one very small part of the lake


your not going to fish the reds out by no means but a red fish only reproduces once its over 25inch...(I believe)....... I think we should give them a chance to make it to the marsh or lake!!.......Fish have to eat so if you chunk a dead shrimp at the door he will take it..........Its like shooting Ducks coming out of the pin......... You will kill more ducks sitting by the door waiting for them to fly out...............Then you will sitting in the blind in a open field.................. Just saying we should look into giving the fish a chance to get out!!!

Salty 02-23-2010 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by "W" (Post 118079)
your not going to fish the reds out by no means but a red fish only reproduces once its over 25inch...(I believe)....... I think we should give them a chance to make it to the marsh or lake!!.......Fish have to eat so if you chunk a dead shrimp at the door he will take it..........Its like shooting Ducks coming out of the pin......... You will kill more ducks sitting by the door waiting for them to fly out...............Then you will sitting in the blind in a open field.................. Just saying we should look into giving the fish a chance to get out!!!

I love how you put it into elementary terms so everyone can understand.

adamsfence 02-23-2010 08:43 PM

it don't really matter to me either way seems yall are pretty passionate about this so if it is hurting the fisheriery then close it.......just don't like to see more places closed to access...............Deadly you said people was talking about this is this just locals or important people that make decisions

Gerald 02-23-2010 10:06 PM

I don't think there needs to be a 1000 foot rule.

If the 250 foot....no fishing restriction were followed, the catch at the wier would be greatly reduced. Look at the picture I posted earlier tonight......2 boats in the "no fishing" area. This is very common.

FYI.......a ticket fishing there cost $ 225.

Reel Bender 02-23-2010 10:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Salty (Post 118084)
I love how you put it into elementary terms so everyone can understand.

You a w got a Love fest going on or what??:eek:

all star rod 02-23-2010 10:29 PM

maybe they should pass a law that you can only spec fish for 60 days like duck season.......I guess he is trying to stir the post since the super bowl/Saints talk have stopped.....LOL.....

Salty 02-23-2010 10:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reel Bender (Post 118153)
You a w got a Love fest going on or what??:eek:


No. Does it mean I have feelings for you just because I like your watch? :eek: :smokin:

Salty 02-23-2010 10:42 PM

Do the trout ever wad up at them wiers like the reds do?

all star rod 02-23-2010 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Salty (Post 118189)
Do the trout ever wad up at them wiers like the reds do?

I have only been fishing BL for 4 years and I have never seen or heard reports. The redfish slam at the weirs is not a year around event. In general, I think most fish it only because the trout fishing is slow at this time and the reds are stacked at the weirs at this time.

Salty 02-23-2010 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Deadly D (Post 118190)
:*****::*****::*****::*****::*****:

:rolleyes:

tgsx750f2000 02-23-2010 11:39 PM

If you make this a law then what's next? You can't fish under the birds! No using corky's! No using live shrimp! No using lights at night! I mean the list could go on forever.



The corky one was just a joke. LOL

all star rod 02-23-2010 11:43 PM

funny thing is the person who srtarted this thread has not caught really any fish lately except for fishing the weirs....LOL....this post was just to Stir The Pot....

SULPHITE 02-23-2010 11:45 PM

well there is so much marsh around the lake etc. where reds can enter freely without jigs and shrimp in der way. Also think of all the reds that go in and out during the night too.

QUACKHEAD 02-24-2010 12:11 AM

The thread does make for good discussion. I think the weirs are good as it is. Some of you have been around long enough to remember what it was like before the Blackened Red Fish Craze. You could catch Red fish with a bent perch hook and a can top. Yea they use to come off for you younger guys. Then the craze hit, and purse seiners came out from every country and caught everything the Gulf and oceans would give em. It didn't take but a couple of years for the fisheries to realize that the Red fish along with others were getting fewer and fewer. They band the seiners, put restrictions and now look, the population is growing by leaps and bounds. The conservation of red fish is and has proven itself where the laws are right now. The weirs in the whole scheme of things is nothing to the well being of the red fish population. Fool is right, which the more I read of his post I find he usually knows what he is talking about, you can put so many rules on things that after awhile it's just not enjoyable any longer and does not make sense. There's a lot of water in Big Lake and a whole lot more out in the Gulf. If you guy's think the wiers are putting a population hurt on the Red Fish.... U R WRONG! You also have the choice to NOT Fish there. That way you are not clogging the area when I pull up there my 2 times a year and want to catch a few RED'S.

LaAngler 02-24-2010 12:17 AM

why dont we ban guides

SULPHITE 02-24-2010 12:20 AM

Quote:

why dont we ban guides
:eek:

LaAngler 02-24-2010 12:22 AM

maybe i'll start a thread on that, LMAO

SULPHITE 02-24-2010 12:27 AM

Quote:

maybe i'll start a thread on that, LMAO
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LaAngler 02-24-2010 12:33 AM

brings back memories of W's old threads on the sportsman, his solution was just to get all the idiots who can't fish off the water. :rotfl:

those made tony so proud

Hebert 02-24-2010 01:45 AM

yea lets regulate the hell out of big lake...but lets start with trout first...bring the limit down to 1 per person and anyone with a black boat is not allowed to fish at all.....sounds good huh? :).......its funny to see someone that kills more fish out of that lake than the average person , even think of regulating someone else.

2ndamendment 02-24-2010 08:25 AM

No new laws needed. Blow all the weirs up and let the fishery return to the natural state.

Ray 02-24-2010 08:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2ndamendment (Post 118304)
No new laws needed. Blow all the weirs up and let the fishery return to the natural state.

That would help the fisheries but hurt coastal erosion.
That has been a big debate for years. Which one do we want to keep up?
Coastal erosion won. Fish, shrimp and crabs lost.

"W" 02-24-2010 08:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by all star rod (Post 118174)
maybe they should pass a law that you can only spec fish for 60 days like duck season.......I guess he is trying to stir the post since the super bowl/Saints talk have stopped.....LOL.....

YOUR A FOOL

Quote:

Originally Posted by all star rod (Post 118204)
I have only been fishing BL for 4 years and I have never seen or heard reports. The redfish slam at the weirs is not a year around event. In general, I think most fish it only because the trout fishing is slow at this time and the reds are stacked at the weirs at this time.

This statement Proves it........#1 Reds are caught year around at the weirs....Sometimes is better than others but you can catch reds Year around in any month! #2 Yes Trout do stack up at the weirs when the shrimp are moving in and out of the marsh......Trout don't hang around as long and when boats start piling up they usually shut down or move out....Trout is not a big deal..

Quote:

Originally Posted by tgsx750f2000 (Post 118230)
If you make this a law then what's next? You can't fish under the birds! No using corky's! No using live shrimp! No using lights at night! I mean the list could go on forever.


The corky one was just a joke. LOL


Its not a law......Im just suggestion to expand the 250foot to 1000foot.....not making a law of how many reds you can catch......

Quote:

Originally Posted by all star rod (Post 118236)
funny thing is the person who srtarted this thread has not caught really any fish lately except for fishing the weirs....LOL....this post was just to Stir The Pot....

Yes I have caught reds and trout at the weirs....Never said I didn't.....I have also tagged over 150 and released in one week....;)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hebert (Post 118278)
yea lets regulate the hell out of big lake...but lets start with trout first...bring the limit down to 1 per person and anyone with a black boat is not allowed to fish at all.....sounds good huh? :).......its funny to see someone that kills more fish out of that lake than the average person , even think of regulating someone else.

Its not about killing fish.......Its about giving reds a chance to make it in and out the marsh........ Why shoot ducks coming out of a cage? Just shoot them in the field? Same thing here!

QUOTE=2ndamendment;118304]No new laws needed. Blow all the weirs up and let the fishery return to the natural state.[/QUOTE]

Thats a BIG 10-4......Before the weirs were installed the Lake was 100 times better!!!

cmdrost 02-24-2010 08:56 AM

"Thats a BIG 10-4......Before the weirs were installed the Lake was 100 times better!!! "

:rotfl: Well which one is it??? You want them off limits or taken out all together? One severly contradicts the other.

"W" 02-24-2010 09:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cmdrost (Post 118316)
"Thats a BIG 10-4......Before the weirs were installed the Lake was 100 times better!!! "

:rotfl: Well which one is it??? You want them off limits or taken out all together? One severly contradicts the other.


I would love to see them taken out all together!!!! ........... then I could leave with the 250ft........ But when the water is restricted this just cause fish to stack up....... Move them out and all you have is a cut!!!

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