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"W" 04-12-2010 08:27 AM

Fish The Birds GuideLines
 
Since someone posted a report about bird fishing I though we could re post this to help out anyone who is not use to fishing under birds....
Please read these tips as they are the Bible to Bird Fishing..
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Tips::D

When you locate a group of birds , don't just run up to them. There are a few things you need to know 1st about that group to be successful
- Look to see which way the wind is blowing, this is the first key factor to your success for bird fishing
- Once you have determined watch way the wind is blowing you want to go up wind of the birds,
- Once your a good ways upwind point your boat nose straight on to the set, and drive up slowly until your 400-500 yards away from set, shut your big motor down
- Make a huge circle around them to keep your wake down, big wave will spook the birds
- Now once your trolling up to the group of birds you need to determined which way the fish or group is moving...this is very important to know how you will set up on the fish.
- with light wind you should be able to place the boat in a good position to cast into the set or where you see fish popping
- If winds are high and its rough you will have to work the trolling motor more than fish....You will have to try to get your guys or gals in the best position to cast into the group while you maintain the boat from blowing into them....

Never approach a group of birds trolling upwind! This will spook the fish and shut the bite off quickly, always let the wind drift you to them! if calm let the tide push you or troll softly over

Remember that 1 boat Per Group of Birds ..... 1st boat on them , thats there fish! Only if its real calm attempt to fish two boats... Let the 1st boat have the lead....He was there 1st...;)

Awareness is key also.... You should approach a set of birds to get the most number of fish out of them. Don't worry about other groups or your next move, as this is where lots mess up on fish! Take your time and fish them ! Remember if you know which way the birds are moving you know which way the fish are moving. So when the birds fly away your able to still produce fish! Trout don't fly so there still in the area.... I have produced tons of fish by staying after the birds leave.... ;)

System.... If you do join someone on a group of birds allow the person there to be the leader! Allow them the best angle on the group and you fill in the gap... More then likely if you crowd them they will get pushy and blow the group out!

Have courtesy for all anglers and respect, you can learn a lot also by watching others fish.

Good Luck

Purple Back 04-12-2010 09:25 AM

AMEN!

LaAngler 04-12-2010 09:31 AM

i'll fish them however i want to fish them :thefinger:

personally i like to troll at a low idle with the big motor

speckdaddy 04-12-2010 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by LaAngler (Post 138773)
i'll fish them however i want to fish them :thefinger:

personally i like to troll at a low idle with the big motor

Lmao. " corporal ". Tunnel. Lmao

meaux fishing 04-12-2010 12:03 PM

I thought you were supposed to run up on a plane...then shut down the motor 30 yds out and use that momentum to coast right into the middle of the birds...then splash the TM down and run it at full speed in circles....:eek:
That method always works for me...;)

jpeff31787 04-12-2010 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by meaux fishing (Post 138823)
I thought you were supposed to run up on a plane...then shut down the motor 30 yds out and use that momentum to coast right into the middle of the birds...then splash the TM down and run it at full speed in circles....:eek:
That method always works for me...;)


thats what i was saying.. don't know what all that being quiet is neccesary for.. I know the fish cant hear you under and the noise the birds are making.... :spineyes:

"W" 04-12-2010 12:28 PM

:shaking:
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Originally Posted by jpeff31787 (Post 138826)
thats what i was saying.. don't know what all that being quiet is neccesary for.. I know the fish cant hear you under and the noise the birds are making.... :spineyes:


:shaking: Thats where I limit out on 2 groups and you limit out on 10:D

Yes Fish can hear very well.... slapping boat on water , Trolling to fast, big Motor,

specktator 04-12-2010 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by "W" (Post 138832)
:shaking:


:shaking: Thats where I limit out on 2 groups and you limit out on 10:D

Yes Fish can hear very well.... slapping boat on water , Trolling to fast, big Motor,

Word!

LaAngler 04-12-2010 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by "W" (Post 138832)
Trolling to fast, big Motor,

seriously, you can limit out trollin with the big motor upriver in the deeper water

the W's aren't too smart

meaux fishing 04-12-2010 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by LaAngler (Post 138859)
seriously, you can limit out trollin with the big motor upriver in the deeper water

the W's aren't too smart

they catch some hogs on p-train trollin with the big motor

"W" 04-12-2010 01:14 PM

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good old Days........Before the 15trout limit....

Home before the sun has a chance to break the tree lines:D

specktator 04-12-2010 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by meaux fishing (Post 138861)
they catch some hogs on p-train trollin with the big motor

i have seen Dumas do it on LAS Tv

"W" 04-12-2010 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by specktator (Post 138866)
i have seen Dumas do it on LAS Tv


I taught him how to fish LAKE P;)

specktator 04-12-2010 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by "W" (Post 138868)
I taught him how to fish LAKE P;)

hahaha ***** please!
On my way back from Biloxi I came through I guess where u exit for the Causeway off I-12. (never been there before) I would like to check it out one day though. When does the Causeway get hot?

Feesherman 04-12-2010 02:03 PM

That's plagerism!! LOL Eric Rue gave dat spill da udder night!

"W" 04-12-2010 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Feesherman (Post 138890)
That's plagerism!! LOL Eric Rue gave dat spill da udder night!

:rolleyes: I posted this samething In Nov.

Just great minds think alike:D

Purple Back 04-12-2010 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by W";138893]:rolleyes: I posted this samething In Nov.
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Inshore Saltwater Fishing Discussion: Bird Fishing Helpfull Hints - SaltyCajun.com[/url]

Just great minds think alike:D

AWE cone on "W" you don't want to be like Arrogant Rude (Eric Rue).

Reel Bender 04-12-2010 07:21 PM

Shoot you stop 400-500 yards away the them birds will no longer be yours cause someone is going to slip in before ya!!

Salty 04-12-2010 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by LaAngler (Post 138773)
i'll fish them however i want to fish them :thefinger:

personally i like to troll right through the middle of 'em at a low idle with the big motor so I can fish both sides.

:eek:

Bluechip 04-12-2010 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by "W" (Post 138832)
:shaking:


:shaking: Thats where I limit out on 2 groups and you limit out on 10:D

Yes Fish can hear very well.... slapping boat on water , Trolling to fast, big Motor,

I thought you didn't fish the birds????:smokin:

huntin fool 04-12-2010 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Bluechip (Post 139060)
I thought you didn't fish the birds????:smokin:

clip on corks and sparkle beetles are his favorite bird fishin set up

Bluechip 04-12-2010 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by huntin fool (Post 139062)
clip on corks and sparkle beetles are his favorite bird fishin set up

:rotfl:...The "Fool" has now spoken......CASE CLOSED!!!!!!!

all star rod 04-12-2010 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Bluechip (Post 139060)
I thought you didn't fish the birds????:smokin:

:*****::*****::*****:Just like he never uses a CLIP-ON-CORK......

all star rod 04-12-2010 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Bluechip (Post 139064)
:rotfl:...The "Fool" has now spoken......CASE CLOSED!!!!!!!

That is bad when you have to use a clip on cork when fishing the birds.....:eek:

huntin fool 04-12-2010 08:00 PM

personally i like a sand eel under a clip on ;)

Evans 04-12-2010 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Reel Bender (Post 139047)
Shoot you stop 400-500 yards away the them birds will no longer be yours cause someone is going to slip in before ya!!

That ain't no lie.

"W" 04-12-2010 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Reel Bender (Post 139047)
Shoot you stop 400-500 yards away the them birds will no longer be yours cause someone is going to slip in before ya!!


If they burn in while Im trolling up........Sorry for them because that group just became un fish:Dable

Reel Bender 04-12-2010 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by "W" (Post 139077)
If they burn in while Im trolling up........Sorry for them because that group just became un fish:Dable

Ok BillyBob.

LaAngler 04-12-2010 09:22 PM

jeremy always fishes the birds and posts in his report that he hit some secret reefs he knew.....

believe dat

Gottogo49 04-12-2010 09:23 PM

Actually, Mr. Meaux's technique will work and it's called Rambo-ing the birds. Especially when redfish are moving very fast under the birds, you can bust into them and everyone in the boat can get a hookup before the school submarines. It doesn't make you popular with any other fishermen who are around but it works.

"W" 04-13-2010 05:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Gottogo49 (Post 139110)
Actually, Mr. Meaux's technique will work and it's called Rambo-ing the birds. Especially when redfish are moving very fast under the birds, you can bust into them and everyone in the boat can get a hookup before the school submarines. It doesn't make you popular with any other fishermen who are around but it works.


Works for WHAT 4 fish? When you could of caught 45 :shaking: I watch guys do this all the time......Blast in on a group pull 3 to 6 trout and destoy the school.......Ill sit back for 30mins let them build back up and go pull 30 off of the school.....

all star rod 04-13-2010 07:07 AM

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Originally Posted by LaAngler (Post 139109)
jeremy always fishes the birds and posts in his report that he hit some secret reefs he knew.....

believe dat

:*****:Not many do!

catch.and.fillet 04-13-2010 07:51 AM

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Pretty good article on fishing the birds published last fall:

"W" 04-13-2010 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by huntin fool (Post 139062)
clip on corks and sparkle beetles are his favorite bird fishin set up

:grinpimp:

LaAngler 04-13-2010 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by "W" (Post 139173)
Ill sit back for 30mins let them build back up and go pull 30 off of the school.....

sounds pretty challenging, do you pop the cork once or twice? :smokin:

"W" 04-13-2010 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by LaAngler (Post 139235)
sounds pretty challenging, do you pop the cork once or twice? :smokin:


Never use the Clip on under birds.....:p Only in winter on the W reef:smokin:


I double rig for birds............Corky and Catch 2000

Gottogo49 04-14-2010 12:11 PM

I must say I've never used the Rambo method, but I have seen it used successfully. In the fall when reds are on the top making a wake like a boat, if you chase them with a trolling motor you can't catch them. Maybe W can with a 36 volt job but they usually will dive at the sound of that much hum. You can get ahead of them and try to let them come to you but at best you might get 4 before they dive and come up 100 yds away. I'm not proposing the Rambo method, but in certain situations, I have seen it work. My bud and I used to chase on those big schools of reds back in the marsh in about 6 " of water. The game plan was to chunk a gold Johnson spoon into the fray to get a hookup then they would breakup and regroup 100 yds away. We would each try to get two on - talk about a wild and crazy time.

jpeff31787 04-14-2010 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by "W" (Post 138832)
:shaking:


:shaking: Thats where I limit out on 2 groups and you limit out on 10:D

Yes Fish can hear very well.... slapping boat on water , Trolling to fast, big Motor,


it was a joke dufus!

simplepeddler 04-14-2010 06:06 PM

can't you just shootem with a bowe

yak'em-n-stack'em 04-14-2010 06:19 PM

or you could not fish the birds? and catch the good trout somewhere else?

evis102 04-14-2010 09:02 PM

Pass them up and go catch some real fish.

duckman444 04-14-2010 11:16 PM

what if you are fishing for birds. them gulls make a heck of a stew with some gaftops throwed in.

tgsx750f2000 04-14-2010 11:20 PM

gull gumbo :eek:

evangler 04-16-2010 09:52 PM

Trout don't care what you throw at them when they're under the birds. That's why most anglers keep a "bird box." Old, discarded lures get tossed in the bird box because in the eyes of the trout any an all baits are wanted.

It doesn't matter what kind of failure those lures were previously, because no baits are unwanted by trout under the birds.

Read more at http://evangler.com/2010/03/25/bird-box-baits/

evis102 04-17-2010 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by evangler (Post 140771)
Trout don't care what you throw at them when they're under the birds. That's why most anglers keep a "bird box." Old, discarded lures get tossed in the bird box because in the eyes of the trout any an all baits are wanted.

It doesn't matter what kind of failure those lures were previously, because no baits are unwanted by trout under the birds.

Read more at http://evangler.com/2010/03/25/bird-box-baits/

Last year I was making a meat haul and the only thing they would hit was topwater. Was very odd.

Ray 04-17-2010 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by evis102 (Post 140933)
Last year I was making a meat haul and the only thing they would hit was topwater. Was very odd.

We fished the lil baby spooks and badonkadonks under the birds, in cold rough weather. Caught guud.


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