Update on the Oyster Issue RE: LDWF
I have seen responses from LDWF and the responses did not seem favorable to our push to change the current oyster harvest. One of the response I have seen contained this statement "the overall oyster resource in Calcasieu Lake remains strong and the abundance of oysters in this lake allows it to remain one of the most bountiful resources in the state".
The LDWF will have their next meeting on April 7, 2011 in the Louisiana Room at the department headquarters in Baton Rouge. At the conclusion of the meeting as with all LDWF meetings the public will be allowed to provide comments to the Commission. Obviously I am very disappointed by this response. I will be very surprised if the Task Force and LDWF does not allow the harvest to move further north in Big Lake next year. |
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:*****::*****::*****::*****: What Oysters??? They have none left!!! but they want to move up north becasue of that......Ask them why are they wanting to move up north??? Never had to move the line up north when tonging:shaking: |
maybe we are going about this wrong. might have to look for other ways to solve the problem. gonna be hard to change the "experts" minds when they think they are doing the right thing. why not start a group that looks after oyster populations in our area, with a big emphasis on re-seeding. it would be in the best interests of the oyster fisherman to back this group since it effects their livelihood. if they dont, we just seed the hell out of areas the cant fish.
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State is telling the Oyster fishermen that the East side may be closed for the next 2 years. Look out West Cove.
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There are too many lazy Oyster fishermen who will not tong. It is too much work. It makes no difference if they catch 15 sacks with tongs or with dredges. The issue is how many boats they have with dredges. The number of Oyster fishermen doubled, the number of boats tripled. Too many are fishing multiple boats. They will reseed themselves, if you don't over catch. The issue is reseeding from another area. This might bring in non native clams and other things from somewhere else. There are places in Big Lake that are off limits to Oyster fishermen. They are called cultches. These are for reseeding if something catastrophic happens. But you cannot wipe out half the oysters in the lake and hope they will reseed themselves at that rate. It will take at least 3 to 5 years to repair the damage after they are wiped out. There are some Oyster fishermen who are concerned, and there are some that don't care. They want to make as much money right now and cry for help from the Feds cause their livelihood was wiped out. Then want to sue anyone they can blame. The ones who tonged before dredges should be able to still catch their limit with dredges, the rest should not be able to get a license. State made it too easy to over catch. |
This is not a conservation issue fellas, it is a political issue. Senators and Representatives on the Natural Resources board need to be contacted via phone and email. It takes less than five minutes to make a difference! These people work for us but can't if they don't know what is going on AND they don't!!!! Put some pressure on the issue and someone is going to get the message, your state representatives. You don't have to live in Lake Charles, call your guy in Shreveport,Monroe,Alexandria,Baton Rouge,New Orleans,Houma!!!!!!!!! Show me this issue is more than a bunch of guys pissing and moaning on the Internet!
Regards, Raymond Little Lake Charles La 337-288-5685 anytime |
im pretty sure we've been over the problems many many times on here. lets try to come up with innovative ways to solve some of these problems
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This has happened before. Oysters were wiped out due to dredging.
They closed it down about 10 years then opened tonging only. Only the guys who needed money bad tonged oysters. They are going for over $35/sack right now. That means they will be dredging till there are no more in any open areas. I heard it from an oyster fisherman today, they are worried about no more Oyster fishing on the East side. That is the scoop they are hearing. I will see if I can get more info. before I go offshore. |
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I hope they close it for 40 years
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Once or over a specified period of time. WLF says harvest and they are getting at it! It is no different than any farmer selling his crop,with the exception Of the crop being a public resource. |
all of this is why I proposed we take a different route. We're not gonna get WLF to shut it down and if the legislators on the resources commity gave a **** they would've had something in place a long time ago. like, maybe the last time they got whipped out. thats just a guess though. you dont think they realize that one side of the state works to keep their resources in tact and the other doesn't. But we can make a difference without have to spend a few years getting laws changed. Stop and think for a minute about the assistance we could get as a group trying to preserve a natural resource for everyones benefit, not just commercial or recreational.
but what do I know, I'm not a biologist and I didnt stay in a holiday inn express last night. |
They will not have a season next year because there is no oysters..... cant fish with out oysters...... Kill em all..... If the WL&F dont care...fk it...Ill take 7 limits of trout a day..... Kill em all
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Why is everyone against trying to start a re-seeding program on our own? Legislative action is going to take time and its time that we don't have. Re-seeding is in our control NOW.
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does CCA have any attorneys involved in this?
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Who is going to pay for it? Sure not the oysterfishermen on a public lake.... They would have to make lease package and I dont see that ever happing.... They will close it next year im almost 100% of that...WL&F knows there is no oysters left....the local oysterfishermen are telling them that... |
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i know there has to be people here who will contribute. otherwise we are just going to sit back and watch our lake get torn to heck with no plan to fix the situation in sight. i'd rather not leave it to chance. |
The lake will re-seed itself, but there are too many oyster boats to do that.
Re-seeding will only work if you lease areas, or allow oystering in one section at a time. Big Lake is a public oystering lake. When it opens, most of the oyster fishermen will try to make as much money as fast as they can. Not worrying about what will be left for the next season. If it is re-seeded, then it will have to be closed for a few years to let them grow. And again I will say, reseeding from another area could bring in unwanted problems like hook mussels and other diseases that we may not have now. And what other area would want to send their seed oysters over here? Do we want the East side of the state to be able to take our oysters to reseed the their side of the state? The commercial fishing lobby is just as big as the recreational fishing lobby. I can promise you they are looking at this and other forums all the time to see what their next fight will be. But we cannot look at what they are saying, they don't put it out for everyone to see. The only answer is to make it publicly known, and that has already happened, KPLC TV and other news media have brought it up. If you listen to the oyster fishermen, they are worried too. Especially the ones who only commercial fish for a living. There needs to be a limited number of commercial oyster licenses on Big Lake, if they are going to keep dredging. Or close the East Side for the next 3 years to let the oysters grow. Everyone has good ideas, but to make them reality is going to be a lot tougher than you think. |
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