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Big Kahunaz 06-03-2012 10:01 PM
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Originally Posted by "W" (Post 441743)
It is but I'm ruling out pressure
10-4 TID!

Smoke Shack BBQ 06-03-2012 10:01 PM
I never thought I would see more pathetic then the horn porn "trophy" deer hunters. I would rather take my son out and catch 50 12" trout and see 5 does each time out than catch a 7lb trout and a 10 point buck once in a while. We have lost sight of the most important aspect of the outdoors these days: having fun and teaching the next generation proper values.
Thank God I live on the east side and don't have to deal with
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Salty 06-03-2012 10:02 PM
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Originally Posted by huntin fool (Post 441742)
Regardless pressure does not cause near the damage that overpopulation does.
With all the boats running around that small body of water every day.....you cannot tell me that it does not matter to big trout. Big Lake is overpopulated alright....with boats.

Big Kahunaz 06-03-2012 10:03 PM
I believe u ment to state a 9lb trout once in a while
7's are plentiful
The new 7 is the old 9

"W" 06-03-2012 10:05 PM
Soon upper 6 will be the new 9

Big Kahunaz 06-03-2012 10:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Salty (Post 441762)
With all the boats running around that small body of water every day.....you cannot tell me that it does not matter to big trout. Big Lake is overpopulated alright....with boats.
X2. Same with Rayburn and Toledo. We need more lakes Lol

huntin fool 06-03-2012 10:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Salty (Post 441762)
With all the boats running around that small body of water every day.....you cannot tell me that it does not matter to big trout. Big Lake is overpopulated alright....with boats.
That boat running over the hole ain't going to affect the feeding pattern. It may displace the fish, but they still have to compete for bait with all the other trout.
I'm no biologist, but
I just can't see boating affecting it as much as overpopulation.

huntin fool 06-03-2012 10:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Big Kahunaz (Post 441768)
X2. Same with Rayburn and Toledo. We need more lakes Lol
Elite series this week on Toledo... Watch what kind of weights they bring in. Toledo however is actually doing some what decent for big fish. More and more people releasing. Leave our bass out of this! Next they going to ruin our trophy bass lol

ckinchen 06-03-2012 10:12 PM
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Originally Posted by chasin'tail (Post 441755)
The facts are that the fishery is and never was in need of a 10 fish reduction in creel. I was at the meeting and the only ones wanting the reduction was idiots and persons in the loop with the people that could shove this down our throats. The peolpe that study and work the lake, the biologists were ignored. And your refrence to duck limits are based on population of breeding birds. They got what they wanted but facts are facts, it has NOT HELPED THE LAKE PRODUCE TROPHY TROUT!!!!. SO tell me why do we need the 15 fish limit? So you can feel good 'bout saving a fishery that doesn't need to saved....y'all can say what you want. It was never about what the lake needed, on the contary it was what the people with the money wanted to happen.
Do you know me? I was not even fishing big lake when it was a 25 fish limit and I don't care either way. I sure as hell wasn't someone that went to BR to do anything about it.

All I want is for the lake to remain healthy so my grandchildren can fish big lake and I personally do not know if the limit makes a difference.

My point in posting on this thread is because this is my site and I am not going to let anyone name people in threads like has been done in the past, that's it, end of story. Also I believe you guys are fighting a losing battle on this topic but hey you guys do what you feel is right. My references were to things that may not be fair but “we” cannot change.

Send me a PM please if you want to continue this, I have no reason to be in this thread otherwise. Also I no longer argue with members.

Big Kahunaz 06-03-2012 10:18 PM
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Originally Posted by huntin fool (Post 441777)
Elite series this week on Toledo... Watch what kind of weights they bring in. Toledo however is actually doing some what decent for big fish. More and more people releasing. Leave our bass out of this! Next they going to ruin our trophy bass lol
I think a lot could have to do with fish being concentrated along with bait concentrated allowing fish to fatten up. With the water levels back to normal and the exposed land having fresh vegetation and ground critters all the more reason for Toledo to have a boom. Along with a huge decrease in fishing pressure if any at all at some points. I feel that bass fishing has become an electronics sport more or less. Give them fellas a map and an old school hummingbird buzzer on new lakes and see what the weight limits are then.
Back to original topic

cmcnabb 06-03-2012 10:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Smoke Shack BBQ (Post 441760)
I never thought I would see more pathetic then the horn porn "trophy" deer hunters. I would rather take my son out and catch 50 12" trout and see 5 does each time out than catch a 7lb trout and a 10 point buck once in a while. We have lost sight of the most important aspect of the outdoors these days: having fun and teaching the next generation proper values.
Thank God I live on the east side and don't have to deal with
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I think your on too something

"W" 06-03-2012 10:23 PM
If you want a trophy Lake make the limit 50per person.
.in 5years the lake record would be shattered

Smoke Shack BBQ 06-03-2012 10:34 PM
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Originally Posted by "W" (Post 441795)
If you want a trophy Lake make the limit 50per person.
.in 5years the lake record would be shattered
Define the word trophy? Or even better, a successful trip? I've had my most successful trips in the woods and the water when I didn't kill or catch my limit. Life is way to short to give a crap about 10 fish or a 2 lb difference of a fish. Don't you have a new born? I know my son is the most important thing in my world. Not the size or limit of fish. Grow up.

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ckinchen 06-03-2012 10:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Smoke Shack BBQ (Post 441800)
Define the word trophy? Or even better, a successful trip? I've had my most successful trips in the woods and the water when I didn't kill or catch my limit. Life is way to short to give a crap about 10 fish or a 2 lb difference of a fish. Don't you have a new born? I know my son is the most important thing in my world. Not the size or limit of fish. Grow up.

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Just an observation but you seen to be a very level headed father with the right priorities. We need more people like you posting, thanks for your comments. Like you, my kids are everything to me.

"W" 06-03-2012 10:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Smoke Shack BBQ (Post 441800)
Define the word trophy? Or even better, a successful trip? I've had my most successful trips in the woods and the water when I didn't kill or catch my limit. Life is way to short to give a crap about 10 fish or a 2 lb difference of a fish. Don't you have a new born? I know my son is the most important thing in my world. Not the size or limit of fish. Grow up.

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Dude its not about just size....its about over population which in time will cause problems for our fisheries
...I don't fish for big trout but maybe 2 months a year and could care a less about them..I don't eat them...I don't keep them
But they are part of our estuary and now we have a problem with the lack of size decrease ....this is from too many trout

Just like your does...you have to take out s given number of trout....we are not taking that number out


I'm for 25 trout....I don't care If I catch all 12inchers....but I do know that with a 25 trout limit you will have bigger fish showing up




You know that saying your dad told you...if its not broke don't fix it

Smoke Shack BBQ 06-03-2012 10:52 PM
Then you need to let at least ten boats follow your drifts so the pilgrims can catch their limits and level out the population in the lake. They catch the dinks, cause 99% can't catch 15 fish, and you get to make a possative impact in more ways than one. You can be the big lake hero. Get you a cape and everything.
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Salty 06-03-2012 10:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Smoke Shack BBQ (Post 441800)
Define the word trophy? Or even better, a successful trip? I've had my most successful trips in the woods and the water when I didn't kill or catch my limit. Life is way to short to give a crap about 10 fish or a 2 lb difference of a fish. Don't you have a new born? I know my son is the most important thing in my world. Not the size or limit of fish. Grow up.

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A "successful" trip to W is catching a limit before 8:00 am and having somebody "cut his drift" in the process so he can come back here and tell us all about how he ran figure 8's around 2/3 of the lake.

Salty 06-03-2012 10:55 PM
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Originally Posted by huntin fool (Post 441770)
That boat running over the hole ain't going to affect the feeding pattern. It may displace the fish, but they still have to compete for bait with all the other trout.
I'm no biologist, but
I just can't see boating affecting it as much as overpopulation.
It'll damn sure affect the catchin' pattern.

clay67 06-03-2012 11:20 PM
I find it interesting that no one has mentioned the fact that the lake is no longer fished commercially. I'm sure most people that have been around awhile know what kind of numbers used to be taken out of that lake.

MathGeek 06-04-2012 05:34 AM
Interestingly, Louisiana recently adopted (in 2006) a spatially-explicit management plan for Calcasieu Lake. The premise of this management decision, which included a reduction in daily bag limits and imposition of a slot limit, was to ‘preserve’ the renowned trophy-fishery for spotted seatrout in Calcasieu Lake. However, the decision to enact this regulation was based exclusively on socio-economic factors, rather than the biological status of the subpopulation. In fact, no formal stock assessment was conducted as part of the decision-making process. Thus, the status of the subpopulation (stock) was largely unknown (i.e., overfished or not?) at the time regulations were changed. While perhaps setting a bad precedent for fisheries management (i.e., making a decision based purely on socioeconomic reasons), this situation affords a unique opportunity to evaluate the response of spotted seatrout to a spatially-explicit (estuarine-scale) regulations change (i.e., adaptive management, sensu Hilborn and Walters 1992).

from Callihan PhD thesis LSU 2011 p. 182


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