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Read that guides and immediate family members of guides are NOT allowed to enter the tournament this year. Can anyone add on to this?

I wonder what made them take this in as a new rule?

The Adams clause

It's not a new rule. This was the way it use to be. It was 10 years ago or so they started letting family fish. Why they changed it again who knows.

No Muffin mix rule added???

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But what sucks is because of the actions of one now my little girl and wife are eliminated automatically

Someone (guide's wife) tried to beat the system and got caught. I assume the rule change is a result of that.

Mike

Thanks for the clarification Captain Obvious.

I know there is a bunch of guides crying about it on Facebook

My time line was lit up with it this morning. Curious to see how this effects CCA.

Just to be clear, it's more than one.

x

You know another case ?

I really don't think it will unfortunately. I have no problem with the rule change, I just don't like CCA

That's the only case I have heard of. Lol.

Speaking of which is he still guiding?



"I really don't think it will unfortunately. I have no problem with the rule change, I just don't like CCA"

They do absolutely nothing.

Wonder what CCA's position will be on the crab thing?

Bet they don't support an increase in the redfish limit to save the crabs.

All of U are Delusional if you think Raising the Redfish limit will save the Crab pop..

Where is the science?? Lawlf biologist have got the data... I was at a earlier commission meeting... When the biologist spoke and showed the harvest data..

# 1 select crabs are being flown out of this state by the 100's of thousand of #'s a day to the Chesapeake Bay area...

And Crabber's are running 1500-3000 Traps in the water in Verm Bay alone.. Multiple that X 100 crabbers on Verm. Bay alone... Then go state wide...

Restaurants are selling boiled crabs 5-$6 for a regular male crab... 11-$13 a piece for Jumbo's...



Thats about on par with the Commerical Red Snap fisherman saying me catching 2 RS is ruining the fishery...

Ding Ding, and we have a winner.

I never indicated that one step, in isolation, would be sufficient in the crab issue. But raising the redfish limit is one step, that along with other measures, would contribute to a solution.

There are plenty of redfish. Since the commercial ban in the 1990s, redfish have come back very strong. Raising harvest numbers on redfish and black drum would be a sustainable piece of preserving good crab numbers. Of course, the number of crabs taken by humans needs careful consideration also.

But it is just bad science to think humans are the only major predator of crabs.

It was just one person talking about the crab population.

I'm more so concerned with the neglect everything on the west part of the state has encountered since "CCA" pledged to help the Gulf Coast. Also to relocate shrimp shares is bull**** to me. Honestly how many times a year does a average person shrimp? I maybe go twice a year if I hit them in grand Isle at the right time. They just continue to "do good" when all they are consumed about is money in there pocket. But I can't blame them for that, they are politicians at heart after all. If they would spend as much data on ****ing snapper as they have done on crabs we would be able to fish snapper a heeluva lot more and keep more. They have the power to fight the feds they just choose not to.

Big gun
So what does immediate family mean for CCA?

Can't enter your wife, so enter your side chick. :grinpimp:

Hell I don't know how a guide has time to take his wife fishing lol

Mine made all the time , cuz I'm booked everyday and when I'm not booked hell with fishing lol

SP AD

U must be living under a Rock... I've spent my money and attended GULF Counsel Meetings When ever they come close to LA.. LA CCA IS leading the fight for state management of RS..

Just come to a guld council meeting once... And see the amount of comericals attending.. Making comments, saying we the rec's are trying tyo take food out of there childrens mouths... Etc... Environmental Defense Fund pays most of the commercial snapper fisherman to attend EVERY GC meeting, no matter where it's held... Meals, Hotel bills, mileage etc.

CCA isn't Perfect... But until another organization comes up with better idea's.. I support them... I stopped Supporting DU... After Being greenwing state chair for almost 10 yrs...

Why.. Because they spend money on private land... Which doesn't help me with opportunities to Hunt... Just my opinion...

I can assure U.. Me and the majority of peps that support CCA are not in anyway Politician's, or silver spoon babies etc.

Quite the contrary... We are just everyday saltwater fisherman that have a passion just like U and anyone on this site...

If U want to effect change??? Get involved... Be part of the solution... Just don't ***** and moan...I challenge U to attend a GC meeting...

Just MHO...



Gunner

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Are these meetings open bar, or should I bring an ice chest?

Firstly, I would like to state that your rebuttal didn't even touch on 97% of what I was referring to.

My honest opinion is as follows,
I know what CCA has done, I know what they try to do and I also know the bull**** they pretend to do.
They are in at gulf coast council meetings because its a pay check for them, anytime someone sits there supporting them on an issue as big as the red snapper issue is right now they are collecting money. If they were really wanting to do something good they would've funded a televised program highlighting the corruption that is going on but they didn't, and of all people who did a damn politician. I get that they cover there *** and they are wanting "to do good" but until they get out of that glorified circle jerk, I am sorry counsil meeting and start putting pen to paper all I see is a pay check for them. Because "saltwater fishermen like you and me" will keep showing up, will keep donating, and will keep thinking they are fighting for a red snapper.

And the whole time you are looking at snapper, just like you did following up on my post they are waving some bull**** law through to hault crabbing or shrimping. The whole look at this hand while this hand is stealing from you trick seems to be working for them.

And lastly, you living on the west side of the state have seen more shallow water rigs get pulled, more coast line get neglected, and most importanly, reef management get turned to **** something that was told to us by CCA that they would protect. Oyster harvesting in big lake (that's a big one), RED SNAPPER RIGS in 50-70 ft of water gone because they don't take action against the feds. The list goes on. Stop being blinded by what you think they are doing for you, because a long time of wrong won't make up by going to council meetings to pretend like they give a ****.

Ice chest and own lube.

Roger that.

You are spinning your wheels trying to convince the unconvincable. Once they have their minds made up they will never be changed back. A conservation organization can do hundreds of great things and then do one thing that people don't agree with and somebody will get a bad taste in their mouth and only think about that one thing which is very silly and short sighted.

You are actually doing the same thing when you talked about leaving DU I could tell you 100 reasons why private lands are just as importantly for conservation as publicly lands but your kind is already made up and that's another bag of worms

I believe that's called "preachin to the choir". Or is it the pot calling the kettle black?

I always find this conversation amusing, and cannot wait for it to come up each year. Honestly though, I can't think of one thing CCA has done in Louisiana that was good. Yeah, they support atate management of red snapper...so what? That will only make it easier for them to push their agenda.



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They dumped a load of rocks in big lake.

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Soooo what is CCA's agenda?

Lower limits on all inshore species.

All as in fish. Shrimp, crabs, ect.....?

CCA agenda is always the same

Docker shoes , tucked in button up shirts in shorts with costas backwards around neck
Getting ready for next CCA banquet to raise money for 1/10th of the coastal place they will spend it
(It's not going to be Big Lake for sure )

#sofrat

I went to 3 CCA meetings when I moved here from TX, All they talked about was this, the CCA banquet. Nothing about fishing, nothing about BL, this LA CCA is a joke

All about $$$$ no action


I would love to see what they actually do for 8 hrs a day in that Baton Rouge office ?

Unless you are into circle jerks, I do't think you'd wanna see what they do. :*****: :*****:

CCA Definition



Immediate Family: The participant's spouse, parents, grandparents; the participant’s children; the spouses of the participant’s children; grandchildren; the parents of his or her spouse; the participant’s brothers and their spouses; the participant’s sisters and their spouses; stepparents; stepchildren; stepsiblings; and adoptive relationships consistent with the previously stated relationships.

What defines a guide?

Half of Louisiana will be disqualified as many guides as we got out there

4. Professional Fishing Guides Ineligible. Professional fishing guides licensed and permitted by the state of Louisiana and their Immediate Family are not eligible to participate in the STAR Tournament. (Note: Participants in the STAR Tournament may fish with a professional guide)

So can a guide from lets say Texas come over and enter the Louisiana Star??

Good question looks like it.

It appears that way to me too. Capt. Ryan said to let W know that he plans on coming to Big Lake and catching the winning trout. Said he might even hire W as his guide.

That would make for a great show.

CCA seems to be leaving themselves open for litigation by only excluding La. guides and their familys. I know there's more than a couple of Texas guides that bring clients to Louisiana to fish both Sabine and calcasieu.

If they are fishing Calcasieu, then they should have a Louisiana Charter License, if not they are fishing illegally.