Originally Posted by "W" (Post 650239)

I have no "Dog" in this fight, but I have hunted with D dog and it is one bad machine. I would put it up against any dog!!

Originally Posted by "W" (Post 650239)

I have no "Dog" in this fight, but I have hunted with D dog and it is one bad machine. I would put it up against any dog!!

Originally Posted by Ducktrickster (Post 650240)

I love good dog work. This makes me want to hunt with DD.

Originally Posted by Spunt Drag (Post 650241)

Here's y'all's chance, www.entryexpress.net. Don't even have to do any of those bull**** whistles or hand signals. Enter the Derby stakes, it's just a "simple" double mark, and mostly 3-400 yards to boot! Sounds like the perfect setup.

Originally Posted by cgoods17 (Post 650236)

I believe this is the dumbest competition ever.. So the dog will just run around until it happens to come across this 300-400 yrd mark? Whats the fun in that if you cant see your dog further than 50 yards? Isnt the handler supposed to help the dog find the bird?

So by letting the dog work on its own, that is saying your dog has not trust in you helping him get to the mark.. and i thought we wanted trust in our dogs?

Originally Posted by Ducktrickster (Post 650246)

Derby is my favorite. Its all about a dogs natural abilities....not how good his training is.

Originally Posted by Deadly D (Post 650197)

Read number 1 and it will be in a marsh any dog can run in a field. My poodle can fetch a ball that far and he is a ball dog.

Originally Posted by cgoods17 (Post 650236)

I believe this is the dumbest competition ever.. So the dog will just run around until it happens to come across this 300-400 yrd mark? Whats the fun in that if you cant see your dog further than 50 yards? Isnt the handler supposed to help the dog find the bird?

So by letting the dog work on its own, that is saying your dog has not trust in you helping him get to the mark.. and i thought we wanted trust in our dogs?

Originally Posted by Raymond (Post 650193)

Exactly, he doesn't know what a "blind" is so it will be impossible to explain said criteria for judgement. It doesn't have to be longer than 100 yds but will require a whistle and hands. Klondike fire station would work, it should have enough room. Thursday is my only day to run blinds since I am scheduled to train ribbon dogs in Laplace Friday. My definition "the real definition" of a blind retrieve and you got Yosef a bet.
Is bet limited to just me? I am pretty sure I can get 15-20 dog handler teams to Klondike for that kinda chedda.

Originally Posted by Deadly D (Post 649406)

Ok Raymond if you would like to run your dog against mine in the marsh I game. We can have a blind at 300 or 400 yrs. the blind will consist of cut grass, cattails and a thick patch of rozas. You will cast the dog from the dogplatform and let him go no whistles or hand signals after the cast. You will be able to see your dog for about 50 yrds and after that he is on his on. I will place a private substanal amount with you

Originally Posted by southern151 (Post 650342)

This thread is as cool as all "fish-off" threads with the $1000K" wagers that took never came to happen.

With all you big money guys going on about whose dog has a bigger sack, throwing out crazy numbers, how about you guys pitch in on something that really make a difference in the world like our 2013 Christmas drive! Families that we are helping would probably praise both dogs and, call em cute but, what these big numbers being spewed would really do is help them!

Originally Posted by Top Dawg (Post 650341)

I don get it. So there's no time limit? Hide a bird 500 yards away, send your dog, let him hunt aimlessly for hours until he stumbles upon a bird? Where does training come into play?

Originally Posted by Ducktrickster (Post 650340)

No intelligent dog man would take that bet. That is why you threw it out there. Do you have any openings for the second split?