Wiers Opening?
 

I am sure everyone will tell me I full of ****, but why is this not happening other that the salinity level being too high?

That should be the only reason they are not open.

I will make a post about the weirs and importance of them for our lake but I have to finish reading the 306 page document almost most done



But weirs will not open until we get 8-10inchs of rain

The 5PPM line had over 15PPm salinity so weirs will stay closed until that gets back down to 5



By thin it will have killed off our entire shrimp hatch as the water is 3ft lower.behind gate than lake and even on low tide its still lower!!

1st freeze we have with that low water back there will destroy that whole eco system!!

Welcome to politics at its best

Do you have any scientific data to support your statement?

This is about to get good! Should keep us entertained the rest of the day

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The salinity is still very high in the marsh

I think you mean PPt right? 15 PPm is pretty fresh

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oh no, Big Lake is going to die, oh no! All the shrimp are going to die, none of them from the west side marsh, or coming IN from the gulf are going to get into Big Lake. Cancel all fishing trips! Hide yo wife, hide yo kids, they rapin all the shrimps!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You really really really need to, nevermind

Can someone just tell me the scientific reason behind closing them. I understand salinity levels being too high. What does that do to the marsh? Kill Widgeon grass I heard.

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No no no no no! You HEARD that from W:shaking: That is one of the thousands of things he spouts off without knowing a thing about it. He is just mad:rotfl:
Widgeongrass is called Ruppia maritima, have already told W to google what 'maritime' means = it can handle salinity.

Kills all sorts of vegetation, not just widgeongrass. The Marsh is brackish, fresh in some areas. If the salinity gets too high, it will kill majority of the vegetation. I've seen it at times get to 36 ppt. Depending on who you ask, gulf strength is 32-36 ppt. Either way, that's to high for the Marsh. A lot of the high shrimp numbers historically were due to a large portion of the Marsh dieing off at one time. Shrimp and crabs feed on dead plant material. But they also use the Marsh as a breeding ground. So while some dead vegetation is good, too much is a bad thing.

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OK, Thank you for a serious answer.

Just found this :rotfl:

I was told widgeon grass grows best below 15 or 20ppt?

Looks like there has been a salinity level too high since early July......


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Pretty much. Its an intermediate to brackish Marsh plant. Salinities get to high and it will die. I've seen places where salinity was too high for it, especially in 2011. Those same places had it in 2012 after we got all the rain and the system freshened up.

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U think killing off millions of shrimp, reds and trout due to freeze is healthy?

Last time I checked it was 95 degrees outside:shaking: a freeze? really:rotfl:

I also think that dropping a nuclear bomb and killing millions of shrimp, reds and trout is unhealthy as well and about as unlikely to happen as a freeze in September, October, or November for that matter. Last time I broke ice duck hunting in November in Louisiana was hell I can't even remember



the sky is falling, the sky is falling, the sky is falling:rotfl: Do you really think that there are no shrimp on the west side of the lake in those marshes? Do you also know that some shrimp actually move in FROM the gulf this time of year as well?

O yea u mad!!!

That was the quickest e-fight ever with you bro:rotfl: Only took one page before you break out the memes (i.e concede):grinpimp:

Last time I broke ice duck hunting in La anytime was......probaly 1998. It just doesn't happen in the marsh. Plus, the saltier the water the colder it has to be to freeze..........duh. Ain't gonna happen.

Well how about this from Feb 2011?

Thousands of redfish trapped due to closed weirs but when the kill started stinking up the place it was funny that salt did not matter because they were quick to flush it

So before you say never, listen to people who know 1000Xs more than our 2 local saltycajun "save the duck weed guys"

Screw those redfish, the marsh didn't live without the weirs ever before, so why should it now? Let's be sure to keep the saltwater out, because it's never been in there before, and it will kill everything. Who cares about the lake, shrimp, fish, and rest of the ecosystem as long as we have grass. Lol.

What i don't understand is why does that marsh need to be completely fresh? There are plenty of brackish marshes all along the LA coast, just like there has been for thousands of years.

I remember that, you would have never thought there was that many redfish back there until that fish kill.

Have you been to the east side of the state before? All that marsh you talk about is disappearing before our eyes. When I have kids and they are my age there will be no more marsh between leeville and grand isle probably. It has reduced by more than half in my lifetime alone. So while the weirs may not be the best option for all parties, they are better than losing all the marsh and then there is no habitat for all those shrimp and redfish yall are crying about

That is what it all boils down to....they are trying to save land with weirs,not fish and shrimp. Just look at the wax lake outlet....only area in la building land. If the wax was never dug im sure there would not be much land left between the open bay/gulf and morgan city.

Been all over the west side marsh (dang near the tx line.) Only seen 10 or 12 shrimp, in a week. And the water Is salty salty!!!! but on a plus side the marsh and the gators where better for us this year!

Better build a levee and weirs in Sabine lake then too. I'm not crying about fish and shrimp either I don't really care. Man-made canals and channels are the reason the east side of the state is losing land. I understand we have a ship channel that is not natural, but everything works in cycles. Yeah the salinity levels may get high in that marsh at times, and at other times the water will be extremely fresh. Mother nature is better at working things out than we are.

If that is the argument, why aren't there weirs and levees on every coast of every lake in southern LA? It doesn't take a rocket scientist to tell that there is little to no difference in the east bank of Big Lake and the east bank of Sabine Lake.

So i guess it is okay for saltwater intrusion to happen in the marshes west of West Cove?

X1000 I agree

Since following this topic and reading the article in the local paper dated 9-7, it appears the salinity levels are increasing with the weirs closed. The article mentioned that the salinity level was 8 ppt and was about to be opened within a week, but then the level shot up to 13 ppt. Now according to this thread the salinity level is 15ppt.

Where is the breach into the marsh? Or do the analyzers need to be calibrated?

Perhaps a diversion project would be a good option to take some of the lower salinity water from the intracoastal waterway in order to blend down the salt water intrusion?

Freshwater lighter than salt
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Water is low and evaporation happens where?? On surface

Ducks...... and this only

There's nothing but greys, pintail, teal, and spoonies back there anyway lol. Might as well be salty they'll still be there. It's not like that marsh is going to turn into lilly pads and cut grass and be covered up in mallards. There has to be more too it than that.

They stocking it with bass

That's what's supposed to be in it anyway. Hypothetically, if tomorrow they decided to fill in the ship channel and put the river back to the way it was decades ago, would you be for it or against it?

That's a stretch. Gotta look at what we have now.

I know that. I'm just wondering what's more important. Catching specks or saving our coast. I know the west side doesn't have that problem like the East does but I'm just curious what the support would be if that could happen.

Bounce Da Hen!

Sorry wrong thread...

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The old river system 75 years ago still did not allow bass in that marsh


good try!! That has been a brackish marsh for ever

do you have any scientific data to support your comment?

Caught bass in Johnson bayou(deep bayou) pretty comparable to old river system...

I guess there are no bass in dulac, dularge, or cocodrie's brackish marshes either. Tell that to Captain Marty Lacoste on here. He'd tell you otherwise.

I've caught several limits of bass in that marsh before Rita.

Yeah there's a ton of bass and fresh water on the east side of state. Also no weirs

Yea those bass did not come down ship channel and through weirs


The came from big burns when water levels were high and the open the flap gates to release off water!!!

do you have any scientific data to support your comment?

Holy moly:rotfl: We are talking freezes in September and you pull an article from FEBRUARY:rotfl:

I have forgotten more than you will ever know about natural resources in Louisiana;)

So Mr La Grass guy

If we dont get 10inchs of rain in 3-5 months your telling me a huge fish kill and shrimp harvest will not die??