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MarshRat89 01-28-2014 05:41 AM

Why the ducks didn't reach Louisiana.
 
I can debunk just about every theory offered in this article, but I'm not been gonna waste my time. Larry Reynolds threatens we are gonna be down to 30 days and 6 ducks soon. The good ole days gone he says.

http://www.nola.com/outdoors/index.s...each_loui.html



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Smalls 01-28-2014 07:01 AM

So what do you think? I think some if the theories are plausible.

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AubreyLaHaye458 01-28-2014 07:28 AM

I think that it can't be blamed on one specific thing. I think there multiple different reason that are all to blame.


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BIG-C 01-28-2014 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by MarshRat89 (Post 661817)
I can debunk just about every theory offered in this article, but I'm not been gonna waste my time. Larry Reynolds threatens we are gonna be down to 30 days and 6 ducks soon. The good ole days gone he says.

http://www.nola.com/outdoors/index.s...each_loui.html



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I don't know what to say about this one,I thought they came down pretty good this year,especially the second split,most Mallards I've killed in years,but who am I to question
this guy.

MarshRat89 01-28-2014 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Smalls (Post 661818)
So what do you think? I think some if the theories are plausible.

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I think the ducks are here now and they weren't in big numbers earlier.


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Smalls 01-28-2014 08:27 AM

So is it just that the migration was later then?

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"W" 01-28-2014 08:42 AM

I think that is a bunch of BS........ You have bad duck seasons like you have fishing seasons...

I know a guy who hunts in Pine Island who limited out everyday this year during hunting season

mallarddecoyryt 01-28-2014 09:13 AM

Might not be a bad idea for season and limits to go down. Get some off these yahoos out off hunting.

MarshRat89 01-28-2014 09:15 AM

Yes I think the migration was late. And yes certain areas did good but with conditions we had this year we should have had good numbers wide spread


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PotLikinisAhabbit 01-28-2014 09:17 AM

I would like to hear your thoughts on this marshrat. No sarcasm intended.

cmcnabb 01-28-2014 09:27 AM

All these biologist aint got a clue. On one hand we have fewer birds than ever and on the other its a record hatch. Im sorry but surveys dont represent actual numbers. Survey Ws friend and there are more birds down than ever. Survey joe blow who aint killing and there are no birds. Its all a bunch of bull**** that I don't believe. Whether Mr. Reynolds says we have a ton of birds or none, ill still go and make the best of what I have.

Nickt87 01-28-2014 09:42 AM

I hunted from Sabine Pass to the Biloxi Marsh this year. The SE side of the state's hunting was HORRIFIC. The lease I hunt in Delacroix was the thickest I've ever seen with vegetation in the 18 years I've been hunting it, thought the birds were going to be everywhere, sadly sadly mistaken. But I did have some success elsewhere.Overall, I was satisfied with the hunting season and had some of the better hunts this year than any other. I do believe that the bird count is decreasing though, due to multiple factors.

Smalls 01-28-2014 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by cmcnabb (Post 661845)
All these biologist aint got a clue. On one hand we have fewer birds than ever and on the other its a record hatch. Im sorry but surveys dont represent actual numbers. Survey Ws friend and there are more birds down than ever. Survey joe blow who aint killing and there are no birds. Its all a bunch of bull**** that I don't believe. Whether Mr. Reynolds says we have a ton of birds or none, ill still go and make the best of what I have.


You're right, the surveys don't represent the actual numbers, but people act like that is what biologist are saying is the case. I would bet any biologist would tell you those numbers are not the exact number, but an estimate. That's what it is. But people take it as an exact count.

The other thing I've found is that duck hunters tend to assume that if wildlife and fisheries is saying there are X amount of birds in this part of the state, that they should be seeing birds at their place. That's just not the case. All habitat is not equal. Birds are much more sensitive to changes than we are. Somewhere that has been a stronghold for ducks for 3 decades may no longer be that way for some unknown reason.

I don't think anyone will ever fully know why the ducks aren't here or there. the White-tail is one of the most studied species on the face of the earth, and deer biologist still dont' know everything there is to know about them. If they don't know everything about 1 species, what makes anyone think waterfowl biologist will ever know everything about multiple species with a complex ecology?

I'm with you though, Mcnabb. I'm still going to go out and make the best of it. Even if they go to a 3 duck limit, that's still better than no ducks at all.

Clampy 01-28-2014 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by "W" (Post 661830)
I think that is a bunch of BS........ You have bad duck seasons like you have fishing seasons...

I know a guy who hunts in Pine Island who limited out everyday this year during hunting season


Bet he was bouncing the hen.


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FF_T_Warren 01-28-2014 10:10 AM

Due to work, I got to hunt 1 month out of the season and I killed 1/3 of what I killed last year. So theoretically I was right on step with the previous year. Now I heard horrible reports just like everyone else but for me, the numbers don't lie

bgizzle 01-28-2014 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by MarshRat89 (Post 661840)
Yes I think the migration was late. And yes certain areas did good but with conditions we had this year we should have had good numbers wide spread


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Hatch was a month late as well. No correlation?


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Paulox86 01-28-2014 10:23 AM

The more manipulation of our natural terrain for the specific reason of holding waterfowl is what is hurting the migration. Plus with all the new hunters crowding the area, ducks are getting shot far sooner and much more on their way down to the south. Nothing is going to change. Too much money in hunting nowadays. The average guy cannot compete with the multimillion dollar lodge that manages fields of crops with the sole purpose of waterfowl hunting.


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bmac 01-28-2014 10:25 AM

"Statewide, it was below average," biologist Larry Reynolds said. "In Southeast Louisiana, it was well below average, and I think it was probably about average in Southwest Louisiana."

bgizzle 01-28-2014 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Paulox86 (Post 661859)
The more manipulation of our natural terrain for the specific reason of holding waterfowl is what is hurting the migration. Plus with all the new hunters crowding the area, ducks are getting shot far sooner and much more on their way down to the south. Nothing is going to change. Too much money in hunting nowadays. The average guy cannot compete with the multimillion dollar lodge that manages fields of crops with the sole purpose of waterfowl hunting.


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Well said


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bgizzle 01-28-2014 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by bmac (Post 661860)
"Statewide, it was below average," biologist Larry Reynolds said. "In Southeast Louisiana, it was well below average, and I think it was probably about average in Southwest Louisiana."

My thoughts as well. In our area ppl started crawfish ing or setting up for crawfish earlier


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