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matt wahl 06-06-2012 11:00 AM

If the limit was changed without a vote or explanation to the public. It's messed up. If they have the power to do this then they could just forbid all boats and fishing all together.

I also believe that an aggressive approach isn't the way to fix this. That goes for both sides of the fence.

Limit the government. Have public forum and a vote.


RON PAUL 2012

Salty 06-06-2012 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Duck Butter (Post 443402)
Studies involving wildlife management can not technically be proven, that is why words such as 'suggests' and 'further studies needed', are used and why words such as 'proves' can not be used, because there are so many variables to consider and each population is different.
I can not 'prove' this but I would venture to say that the limit change from 25 to 15 has ZERO effect on the trout population (numbers, size, health, fecundity, etc.) of Big Lake. Recreational fishermen put hardly a dent in the population of a species such as trout. I would also venture to say that an increase from 15 even up to 50 would have such a small effect it would not matter.

It is not hard to find people who are in favor of moving the limit back to original status. It's kinda like coming to Bogalusa, setting up a tent and giving away FREE cell phones. There will be alot of signees. But, Butter is absolutely right...there is absolutely no concrete proof that the reduction has affected the fishery in a negative way. Showing enough proof to the contrary and getting the limit reversed is going to be a tall order. Now, money is another option but it's gonna take a bunch of it.

simplepeddler 06-06-2012 11:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Duck Butter (Post 443402)
Studies involving wildlife management can not technically be proven, that is why words such as 'suggests' and 'further studies needed', are used and why words such as 'proves' can not be used, because there are so many variables to consider and each population is different.
I can not 'prove' this but I would venture to say that the limit change from 25 to 15 has ZERO effect on the trout population (numbers, size, health, fecundity, etc.) of Big Lake. Recreational fishermen put hardly a dent in the population of a species such as trout. I would also venture to say that an increase from 15 even up to 50 would have such a small effect it would not matter.


makes sense really.........
I have never had the opinion that a rod and reel can hurt a fishery

"W" 06-06-2012 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by BIG RED 1983 (Post 443388)
w a little food for thought there is a common factor between office fishermen and real fishermen


THEY ARE BOTH FISHERMEN


1st off yall took this phrase the wrong way....

Officefisherman is the term used by other who are against the 15 trout limit

This describes the ones who went to baton rouge to fight for a limit they dont even fish enough for..

you can work in a office year round and be a great fisherman but I dont think a guy who only fishes a lake 2-4 times a month needs to be in Baton Rouge pushing something he knows little about

This was stated and proved the group of guys knew little about giving a reason...

You all took it as EVERYONE..who works in the office:rolleyes:

"W" 06-06-2012 12:03 PM

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Who Wants a T Shirt..Im having some made and what ever it cost me it cost you.....

Salty 06-06-2012 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by "W" (Post 443437)
1st off yall took this phrase the wrong way....

Officefisherman is the term used by other who are against the 15 trout limit

This describes the ones who went to baton rouge to fight for a limit they dont even fish enough for..

you can work in a office year round and be a great fisherman but I dont think a guy who only fishes a lake 2-4 times a month needs to be in Baton Rouge pushing something he knows little about

This was stated and proved the group of guys knew little about giving a reason...

You all took it as EVERYONE..who works in the office:rolleyes:

Really?

ckinchen 06-06-2012 12:13 PM

Sure W, so we took this wrong?


Quote"90% of you on this thread spend 3/4 less time on the water than I do.. So don't tell me my theory is wrong when you don't spend the time or know 1st hand the problem
99% of you talk about crap you don't know..you yap yap yap behind a desk and fish on weekend and think you know something

You don't know

...you don't see it enough to know
...your not around enough to know
I been on this lake from 5years old and I spend more time on the water in one year than 80 % of you do in 10years" Quote


Again this is what you said

"99% of you talk about crap you don't know..you yap yap yap behind a desk and fish on weekend and think you know something"


I get it but thanks for trying to clear things up.

"W" 06-06-2012 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ckinchen (Post 443454)
Sure W, so we took this wrong?


Quote"90% of you on this thread spend 3/4 less time on the water than I do.. So don't tell me my theory is wrong when you don't spend the time or know 1st hand the problem
99% of you talk about crap you don't know..you yap yap yap behind a desk and fish on weekend and think you know something

You don't know

...you don't see it enough to know
...your not around enough to know
I been on this lake from 5years old and I spend more time on the water in one year than 80 % of you do in 10years" Quote


Again this is what you said

"99% of you talk about crap you don't know..you yap yap yap behind a desk and fish on weekend and think you know something"


I get it but thanks for trying to clear things up.

So thats not true???

ckinchen 06-06-2012 12:17 PM

This looks familiar to me, I think I may have seen it before.....

Now I remember, this is exactly what W did with his close political friend (an office angler I'm sure) Dan Morrish and the oyster issue.

flip / flop - flip / flop

You and crawfish have more in common that just being short.

ckinchen 06-06-2012 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by "W" (Post 443455)
So thats not true???

What that you do not respect "99%" of the people on this site and think you are better than us? No I do think that is true, I have no doubt.

But now you want our support again, now that you have figured out that you are just one person and that you alone have no power, none....

"W" 06-06-2012 12:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ckinchen (Post 443460)
This looks familiar to me, I think I may have seen it before.....

Now I remember, this is exactly what W did with his close political friend (an office angler I'm sure) Dan Morrish and the oyster issue.

flip / flop - flip / flop

You and crawfish have more in common that just being short.

So answer me this

your telling me that I dont spend more time on the water than 90% of people active with this site?

your telling me that people who spend less time acutally on the water know more about our fishery than me??

Please to tell

Top Dawg 06-06-2012 12:22 PM

Lol I'll take a shirt lol

redaddiction 06-06-2012 12:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by "W" (Post 443465)
So answer me this

your telling me that I dont spend more time on the water than 90% of people active with this site?

your telling me that people who spend less time acutally on the water know more about our fishery than me??

Please to tell


Who care's who spends more time. Quit being an a-hole!!. Everyone here agrees with you about the fishery. It shouldn't have been changed. We all know that. BUT, no one wants to be on your side publicly because of how you are acting. You are just isolating yourself from the rest of us. That's no way to get things done.

ckinchen 06-06-2012 12:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by "W" (Post 443465)
So answer me this

your telling me that I dont spend more time on the water than 90% of people active with this site?

your telling me that people who spend less time acutally on the water know more about our fishery than me??

Please to tell

Tell me this, who cares? I mean besides you of course, trout fishing is clearly your number one priority in life.

If we all acknowledge that you spend more time on the water than anyone on this site other than the 57 or so guides that work out of big lake, what does that prove? You must have won several big tournaments on big lake given this wisdom you have obtained right? Nope, you are you tied with the office boys, sitting on a zero. Actually we should probably ask Evis what should be done, he consistently wins or places in the top five. Has he just spent more time on the water than you or is he just better?

Do you have a degree in Marine Biology? Truth be told, the guys you hate that you call office fishermen are far from it. As a matter of fact the guy I know that was involved fishes more than you do and has more money invested in the lake than you. Are you more qualified than he is to decide the fate of the trout limit?

Why keep this up, most people want to see the limit increased because like Salty said people inherently want more. Get with Math Geek and print out what you have and whatever you want to add and see what the powers that be have to say about it.

As far as you smashing 6,000 members and your flip/flop past being pointed out which you have not even tried to refute, that is collateral damage that comes with you running your mouth. I stand up for the people of this site, I always have and I always will. I got trashed on LAS last week for doing just that. It is what it is.

Good day.

ckinchen 06-06-2012 12:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by redaddiction (Post 443470)
Who care's who spends more time. Quit being an a-hole!!. Everyone here agrees with you about the fishery. It shouldn't have been changed. We all know that. BUT, no one wants to be on your side publicly because of how you are acting. You are just isolating yourself from the rest of us. That's no way to get things done.

Exactly, well said.

SaltERedneck 06-06-2012 12:35 PM

boooooom

Salty 06-06-2012 12:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ckinchen (Post 443478)
Tell me this, who cares? I mean besides you of course, trout fishing is clearly your number one priority in life.

If we all acknowledge that you spend more time on the water than anyone on this site other than the 57 or so guides that work out of big lake, what does that prove? You must have won several big tournaments on big lake given this wisdom you have obtained right? Nope, you are you tied with the office boys, sitting on a zero. Actually we should probably ask Evis what should be done, he consistently wins or places in the top five. Has he just spent more time on the water than you or is he just better?

Do you have a degree in Marine Biology? Truth be told, the guys you hate that you call office fishermen are far from it. As a matter of fact the guy I know the was involved fishes more than you do and has more money invested in the lake than you. Are you more qualified than he is to decide the fate of the trout limit?

Why keep this up, most people want to see the limit increased because like Salty said people inherently want more. Get with Math Geek and print out what you have and whatever you want to add and see what the powers that be have to say about it.

As far as you smashing 6,000 members and your flip/flop past being pointed out which you have not even tried to refute, that is collateral damage that comes with you running your mouth. I stand up for the people of this site, I always have and I always will. I got trashed on LAS last week for doing just that. It is what it is.

Good day.

:pissed:

Thanks alot, Casey. I just dropped my cigarette and burnt a hole in my newest OU shirt.

"W" 06-06-2012 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by ckinchen (Post 443478)
Tell me this, who cares? I mean besides you of course, trout fishing is clearly your number one priority in life.

If we all acknowledge that you spend more time on the water than anyone on this site other than the 57 or so guides that work out of big lake, what does that prove? You must have won several big tournaments on big lake given this wisdom you have obtained right? Nope, you are you tied with the office boys, sitting on a zero. Actually we should probably ask Evis what should be done, he consistently wins or places in the top five. Has he just spent more time on the water than you or is he just better?

Do you have a degree in Marine Biology? Truth be told, the guys you hate that you call office fishermen are far from it. As a matter of fact the guy I know that was involved fishes more than you do and has more money invested in the lake than you. Are you more qualified than he is to decide the fate of the trout limit?

Why keep this up, most people want to see the limit increased because like Salty said people inherently want more. Get with Math Geek and print out what you have and whatever you want to add and see what the powers that be have to say about it.

As far as you smashing 6,000 members and your flip/flop past being pointed out which you have not even tried to refute, that is collateral damage that comes with you running your mouth. I stand up for the people of this site, I always have and I always will. I got trashed on LAS last week for doing just that. It is what it is.

Good day.

Please fill this out and fax it back to me :help:

Lake Chuck Duck 06-06-2012 12:43 PM

Saw that one coming lol

ckinchen 06-06-2012 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by "W" (Post 443491)
Please fill this out and fax it back to me :help:


Is this the form you complete before or after you figure 8 an unsuspecting office fishermen?

Top Dawg 06-06-2012 12:44 PM

I'm serious bout the shirt. I need a large

Top Dawg 06-06-2012 12:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ckinchen (Post 443494)
Is this the form you complete before or after you figure 8 an unsuspecting office fishermen?

Lmao

"W" 06-06-2012 12:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Top Dawg (Post 443495)
I'm serious bout the shirt. I need a large


when I get the cost I will let you know...........Just sent the lay out today


Im sure its going to be cheep about 7-8 bucks....

Top Dawg 06-06-2012 12:51 PM

In that case I might get one for the ol lady too! Let me know

"W" 06-06-2012 12:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ckinchen (Post 443494)
Is this the form you complete before or after you figure 8 an unsuspecting office fishermen?

I always give the one FINGER Salute to my victims:thefinger::thefinger::thefinger::thefinger :

"W" 06-06-2012 12:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Top Dawg (Post 443506)
In that case I might get one for the ol lady too! Let me know


they pretty cool...have a few guides who are buying some...I told them to buy about 50 and give out to customers

Feesherman 06-06-2012 12:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by "W" (Post 443465)
So answer me this

your telling me that I dont spend more time on the water than 90% of people active with this site?

your telling me that people who spend less time acutally on the water know more about our fishery than me??

Please to tell

No, he is just calling out your total inconsistencies. First you said 99% of us don know nuttin cause we office fisherman. Then you changed it to say that office fisherman or the ones that went to baton rouge. And then when you were reminded that you said we were all retards and you were God, you jumped back on dat band wagon and looked for reassurance that you were in fact God!

Montauk17 06-06-2012 12:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by "W" (Post 443510)
they pretty cool...have a few guides who are buying some...I told them to buy about 50 and give out to customers

You should be able to spread the word as fast as lightning with your customers on your up and coming guide business.

ckinchen 06-06-2012 12:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Feesherman (Post 443512)
No, he is just calling out your total inconsistencies. First you said 99% of us don know nuttin cause we office fisherman. Then you changed it to say that office fisherman or the ones that went to baton rouge. And then when you were reminded that you said we were all retards and you were God, you jumped back on dat band wagon and looked for reassurance that you were in fact God!

And now because he knows he is toast he is ignoring all of the posts that point out his issues and focusing on T shirts. But in his little mind I am certain that he believe he is "winning".

BIG RED 1983 06-06-2012 12:56 PM

w no bs you should mark up the shirt a little so that the extra money can go to help fight your cause. its going to take a lot of time money and effort to get the limit raised back to 25 so extra funds would not hurt

Lake Chuck Duck 06-06-2012 12:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by "W" (Post 443510)
they pretty cool...have a few guides who are buying some...I told them to buy about 50 and give out to customers

How is handing out a bunch of shirts with no contact number or no instructions on how to help going to get a 25 trout limit back?

"W" 06-06-2012 12:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BIG RED 1983 (Post 443522)
w no bs you should mark up the shirt a little so that the extra money can go to help fight your cause. its going to take a lot of time money and effort to get the limit raised back to 25 so extra funds would not hurt

what i might do is see what it cost and sale them for a few dollars more and let the extra money go the the event Aug 4th

ckinchen 06-06-2012 12:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lake Chuck Duck (Post 443524)
How is handing out a bunch of shirts with no contact number or no instructions on how to help going to get a 25 trout limit back?

You not to stop. Come on man, you are trying to use logic and common sense when dealing with W. Let the guy continue winning.

Top Dawg 06-06-2012 01:00 PM

I just like the damn shirt! Those shirts are "winning"! Lol

Lake Chuck Duck 06-06-2012 01:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by "W" (Post 443527)
what i might do is she what it cost and sale them for a few dollars more and let the extra money go the the event Aug 4th

look at that, W does in fact have a heart!

ckinchen 06-06-2012 01:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by "W" (Post 443527)
what i might do is she what it cost and sale them for a few dollars more and let the extra money go the the event Aug 4th

Nice gesture and thanks but we have only shirt for sale for that event. I am not going to allow the charity event to become a political event for you.

You are smarter than I thought, trying to slowly turn the people back around. This will work better for you than calling us all stupid and office fishermen.

weedeater 06-06-2012 01:02 PM

Seems like if the office fishermen are responsible for limit change first time you would want the 99% office fishermen on SC to back you on your mission.....

"W" 06-06-2012 01:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Top Dawg (Post 443535)
I just like the damn shirt! Those shirts are "winning"! Lol

Yes they are WINNING.......Were always winning..

im on a Drug called "W"... Winning ..I have one gear GO...Win here Win there..WINNING

BIG RED 1983 06-06-2012 01:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ckinchen (Post 443538)
Nice gesture and thanks but we have only shirt for sale for that event. I am not going to allow the charity event to become a political event for you.

You are smarter than I thought, trying to slowly turn the people back around. This will work better for you than calling us all stupid and office fishermen.


w never said that then he said that then he didnt then he did again then he didnt

Salty 06-06-2012 01:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BIG RED 1983 (Post 443551)
w never said that then he said that then he didnt then he did again then he didnt

That's kinda been his MO "cents" I've known him.

Montauk17 06-06-2012 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by W";443549]Yes they are WINNING.......Were always winning..

im on a Drug called "W"... Winning ..I have one gear GO...Win here Win there..WINNING
[url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J0NIMTPYYcU
Charlie Sheen Parody - Bi-Winning (Official Song) - YouTube[/url]

Way to stay original

"W" 06-06-2012 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Top Dawg (Post 443535)
I just like the damn shirt! Those shirts are "winning"! Lol

Revised :smokin:

1fastmerc 06-06-2012 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by "W" (Post 443585)
Revised :smokin:

Now you have to change the picture you put on fb.


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Lake Chuck Duck 06-06-2012 01:23 PM

Heads up, I think they charge by letter/word but not sure

"W" 06-06-2012 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Lake Chuck Duck (Post 443592)
Heads up, I think they charge by letter/word but not sure

I GOT HOOK UPS..........its screen Prints to dont go buy letters unless on the arms

cgoods17 06-06-2012 01:37 PM

You're gonna stand there, ownin' a fireworks stand, and tell me you don't have no whistlin' bungholes, no spleen splitters, whisker biscuits, honkey lighters, hoosker doos, hoosker don'ts, cherry bombs, nipsy daisers, with or without the scooter stick, or one single whistlin' kitty chaser?

No... because snakes and sparklers are the only ones I like.

Well that might be your problem, it's not what you like, it's the consumer.

KDM 06-06-2012 01:46 PM

I think RatDog is back!!!!!

Lake Chuck Duck 06-06-2012 01:49 PM

Nah man dat's Joe Dirt!

Smoke Shack BBQ 06-06-2012 02:14 PM

Is this queer? This queer? Joe Dirt is a classic.

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mcjaredsandwich 06-06-2012 02:16 PM

you like to see homos naked?


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