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Jadams 04-07-2014 05:03 PM

Bl rant
 
Talked to warden yesterday doing fish count survey we had 12 trout and few reds.. Had a discussion about why the lake sucked so bad and Sabine is doing good.. Identical lake system only difference was weirs, washout area and oyster rapers...warden claims that the washout 9 mile area bn washed out is letting lot of sediment in lake covering reefs etc that use to be filtered.... Also admits that the use of dredging is killing the reefs when u tong only it is actually beneficial to the reef helps reseed it... On the east side of state where they oyster w permits they have to reseed after they dredge it... Third the weirs and warden agreed w me on that topic less bait flow but u ain't winning that battle.. So I'm asking cca to stand up and fight for tonging only and rock off the areas of the channel washing out and just leave small openings....there is 4 times the amount of bait at Sabine then there is bl right now... This lake is goin downhill and it needs to be done.. Yes we still have days we smoke em but patterns are way less consistent than In the past...so call cca and ask them to help out maybe they'll do something other than build a reef in the middle of nowhere that u can only fish a a handful of times a yr


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Clampy 04-07-2014 05:07 PM

Agreed !!


Spiral Out

jldsc 04-07-2014 05:29 PM

any specific contacts that you and Waltrip have discussed this with? Just to make it easier for us to get ahold of someone who you have dealt with this on.


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Jadams 04-07-2014 05:42 PM

The fish survey guy that talks really slow! Don't know his name but they'll know it


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"W" 04-07-2014 06:05 PM

Letting them dredge for oysters worst mistake in Big Lake History

Freaken raped everything

Even when they moved the line up a few years ago by Basket Reef.. They destroyed it and it has not been the same since

#2 which is a losing battle is weirs, money money money is all that it is.. save my duck weed so we can kill ducks... screw estuary life ( New Sticker)

#3 we need a rock levee from area formally know as Super Cut to rock Island then on off both sides of steam engine island to stop erosion




The ship channel brings on millions a day yet we can't save land loss

bjqx 04-07-2014 07:04 PM

We have bad years also on Sabine, due to fresh water off neches and Sabine rivers. The washout would suck and over oystering damaging reefs also. The West side of Sabine is nothing but a rock wall protecting pleaser island from erosion and the ship channel side of pleaser island is being rocked also for erosion. The rocks are some of the best fishing on Sabine certain times of year. Rock walls on the washout and steam engine would be nice for erosion and fishing!!!! Do y'all fish the rocks in ship channel on BL? They love jerk baits on Sabine this time off year.

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Jadams 04-07-2014 07:36 PM

We fish em but it's nothing like y'all's west revetment wall


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bjqx 04-07-2014 07:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jadams (Post 678590)
We fish em but it's nothing like y'all's west revetment wall


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You been over here any? That bite on the wall is getting good when wind lays down.

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Jadams 04-07-2014 07:55 PM

I'm over there a lot more than people now lol


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PotLikinisAhabbit 04-07-2014 07:55 PM

Im really surprised some local coon-*** hasn't taken care of those weirs a long time ago.

Jadams 04-07-2014 08:03 PM

Know...


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"W" 04-07-2014 08:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PotLikinisAhabbit (Post 678594)
Im really surprised some local coon-*** hasn't taken care of those weirs a long time ago.

Me too

"W" 04-07-2014 08:05 PM

Mother nature took care of weirs with Hurricane Rita but out idiot humans failed to see that sign!!

duckman1911 04-07-2014 08:13 PM

I don't fish the lakes in you guys areas but I cant see how dredging for oysters couldnt be a good thing. That would be like using a bulldozer to dig out the one crawfish that builds a mound in your yard. Just my opinion though.

mstulb 04-07-2014 08:18 PM

Agree 100%

MathGeek 04-07-2014 09:24 PM

The oyster reefs are the top priority, with erosion control second. Rock lines to reduce erosion also serve as artificial reefs.

flounderkiller 04-08-2014 12:08 AM

Sabine is better because it is not over fished and the size limits and bag are more conservative. Seen many years when I fished Sabine and didn't even limit while all my buddies in Big lake were limiting in about an hour. But I do agree the weirs are the biggest problem for the decline in the last 2 years. There are so many cuts on the Louisiana shoreline of Sabine and there are no weirs limiting the bait coming out of that marsh.

Jadams 04-08-2014 12:14 AM

Size and limits are the same on la side pressure is not the problem on bl rt now I might see 5 to 8 boats a day hell I've seen more on Sabine lately than bl... And the reason ur buddies are limiting on bl when u aren't is common.. Me and a couple other guides fish both lakes and when bl blows Sabine is good when bl is on fire Sabine usually blows have no clue why but this has been pattern for the 5 yrs since I've started guiding on both lakes...


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"W" 04-08-2014 05:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by flounderkiller (Post 678700)
Sabine is better because it is not over fished and the size limits and bag are more conservative. Seen many years when I fished Sabine and didn't even limit while all my buddies in Big lake were limiting in about an hour. But I do agree the weirs are the biggest problem for the decline in the last 2 years. There are so many cuts on the Louisiana shoreline of Sabine and there are no weirs limiting the bait coming out of that marsh.

Big Lake is now where near over fished, and we can support a 25 man limit but have a 15


SMH

Salty 04-08-2014 06:07 AM

Open dredging was almost the ruination of Lake Pontchartrain. Thus, the "Save Our Lake" Foundation.


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