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big nd fan 10-23-2012 11:56 AM

Top Water Flounder ?? Need Advice
 
Got to a spot Sunday and I could see flounder busting the surface chasing bait. Saw at least 30 or 40. Tried to catch them but he water was 1' and the bottom was really muddy. Tried reeling in fast but still hitting bottom.

Has anyone had success in real shallow water with any type of topwater?

hewes 10-23-2012 02:29 PM

Live bait. When in doubt live bait

meaux fishing 10-23-2012 02:37 PM

Cast net ;)

I know a couple of people that have caught a flounder on top. Don't know what they were using though

SaltERedneck 10-23-2012 02:43 PM

u try a 1/16 oz jig head?? typically use that in shallow water marsh fishin in the kayak when sight fishing for reds.

Never tried it for flounder but a PopR works well in certain conditions. but again we are talking about redfish.

Goooood question man.... those two above wouldve been my first try.... I would like to know as well.

Top Dawg 10-23-2012 02:57 PM

I have seen them do that before and throw the box at them and not be able to get them to bite. But I've also seen them do that and they ate my grub as soon as it hit the water.

Clampy 10-23-2012 03:12 PM

Take a #1 Kahle hook. No weight and nose hook a gulp. Throw it right on top of where he swirled and twitch lightly and hold on. Typically they won't chase bait. They ambush and the bait schools over them and then they explode up and grab some and go right back down in same spot. Just drop it on his head and shake rod tip. I have ran into exactly this situation in the marsh by Black Lake and crushed em.

marshrunner757 10-23-2012 04:35 PM

As crazy as this may sound, chunk a clear tiny torpedo on them. Caught them like that before.

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Duck Butter 10-23-2012 04:53 PM

3 tailed shrimp
 
will work here, wife and I were in the keys and a big dolphin was hanging out under a pallet and he wouldn't bite the bait and the guide told the deckhand to get the 3 tailed shrimp. he came out with a weighted treble hook and starts trying to snag this thing. After about 4 casts I told him we weren't really that interested if we have to snag a dang fish:rotfl:

jchief 10-23-2012 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Clampy (Post 507292)
Take a #1 Kahle hook. No weight and nose hook a gulp. Throw it right on top of where he swirled and twitch lightly and hold on. Typically they won't chase bait. They ambush and the bait schools over them and then they explode up and grab some and go right back down in same spot. Just drop it on his head and shake rod tip. I have ran into exactly this situation in the marsh by Black Lake and crushed em.

This works. Or use a cork and a pogy or shrimp and set it where it just drifts over the bottom.

Will"E"Fish 10-23-2012 07:11 PM

Beetle Spin with light leadhead any curly tailedplastic with the point of the curl facing down when retrieved. Been smashing flounder and red's with this rig . Silver spinner works for me.

Fuze13 10-23-2012 07:26 PM

Its hard to compete with what they are feeding on when they hit on the top sometimes. I've had really good luck taking a 1/8 oz jig head and a smaller bait regardless of what they are feeding on. Ill usually use a swim mullet or deadly Dudley. The trick here is to tip it with a piece of shrimp and dragggg the bait. They can't stand it and the shrimp is just enough to drive them crazy. In my experiences with this situation its more about size of the bait and movement. Try it out

Bluechip 10-23-2012 07:30 PM

I think he is asking if anyone catches them on top water baits.

eman 10-23-2012 07:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by clampy (Post 507292)
take a #1 kahle hook. No weight and nose hook a gulp. Throw it right on top of where he swirled and twitch lightly and hold on. Typically they won't chase bait. They ambush and the bait schools over them and then they explode up and grab some and go right back down in same spot. Just drop it on his head and shake rod tip. I have ran into exactly this situation in the marsh by black lake and crushed em.

this works!!! ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Fuze13 10-23-2012 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Bluechip (Post 507397)
I think he is asking if anyone catches them on top water baits.

To better answer I think its more of a fluke to catch on top. Happens occasionally......

1fastmerc 10-23-2012 08:01 PM

I've had good luck in really shallow water using an inline spinner.


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LPfishnTIM 10-23-2012 08:04 PM

I have had them hit my popping cork before and it took me a couple cast for them to get the bait!

Bluechip 10-23-2012 08:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fuze13 (Post 507413)
To better answer I think its more of a fluke to catch on top. Happens occasionally......

I agree....

Jrchip1 10-24-2012 09:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Duck Butter (Post 507342)
will work here, wife and I were in the keys and a big dolphin was hanging out under a pallet and he wouldn't bite the bait and the guide told the deckhand to get the 3 tailed shrimp. he came out with a weighted treble hook and starts trying to snag this thing. After about 4 casts I told him we weren't really that interested if we have to snag a dang fish:rotfl:

In freshwater they call that a 3-legged cricket. Those bedding momma's hate 'em.

YellowMouth7 10-24-2012 09:49 AM

Caught one on Topwater 2 weeks ago

Flatfishfreak 10-24-2012 02:51 PM

Small size fluke weightless on spinning rig. Twitch twitch bang!!!! Never fails.

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