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mr crab 02-19-2014 10:35 AM

does running dogs ruin stand hunting?
 
I hunt on a 9000acre lease near Toledo bend. Several members of our hunting club as well as several groups in neighboring properties have been running dogs for hogs pretty much non-stop since deer season closed. What are y'all opinions about what effects this will have on the deer hunting for next season. I know for a fact that the dog hunters have run most of the hogs out of the area.

swamp snorkler 02-19-2014 10:42 AM

Them hog dogs won't run Deer.

BuckingFastard 02-19-2014 10:47 AM

i think any activity will adversely affect the deer. after the season, you want zero pressure so they still stay around and can relax. i believe the hogs need to be hunted but so much noise and motion is likely to push them out, even if they arent going after the deer.

Duck Butter 02-19-2014 10:50 AM

Hogs compete with deer for resources and will even take fawns. Your deer will be better off without the hogs. Embrace it:)

BuckingFastard 02-19-2014 11:48 AM

its pretty easy to bait them with traps. its silent too. can catch 10 or more at a time then kill them with a .22

Clampy 02-19-2014 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by BuckingFastard (Post 666567)
its pretty easy to bait them with traps. its silent too. can catch 10 or more at a time then kill them with a .22


Yep but more fun with dogs. Prolly better for deer if you trap.


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BuckingFastard 02-19-2014 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Clampy (Post 666568)
Yep but more fun with dogs. Prolly better for deer if you trap.


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thats right! these guys do it for the sport of it and not purely for the benefit of the area. :shaking:
Deer do not like dogs or humans lol

Duck Butter 02-19-2014 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by mr crab (Post 666553)
I hunt on a 9000acre lease near Toledo bend. Several members of our hunting club as well as several groups in neighboring properties have been running dogs for hogs pretty much non-stop since deer season closed. What are y'all opinions about what effects this will have on the deer hunting for next season. I know for a fact that the dog hunters have run most of the hogs out of the area.

This sounds like just the type club I am looking for me and my uncles. We all work offshore so don't get to hunt every weekend. We need a place like this so when we come in we can hunt solid for two weeks. We don't litter and my uncle likes to cook, do you have an opening in this club?

We are tired of folks like this, so please let me know if you have an opening

SGib 02-19-2014 04:19 PM

If you want to have deer I wouldn't run dogs. Dogs running around and barking plus people chasing them that's a good way to get rid of your deer. East Texas is tough hunting. Best to keep the place traveled as little as possible

Canadian Black Bears 02-20-2014 07:38 PM

I agree, dogs and deer do not work. I would think deer would leave the area with their suitcases, not to be seen again. just sayin' :grinpimp:

jrdntboy09 02-20-2014 08:17 PM

Only year we ever run hog dogs on our lease before bow season was the best deer season we ever had on numbers and quality. All the surrounding leases where loaded with hogs and not seeing the deer. The hogs did not show back up till end of rifle season. This last season we did not run hog dogs before bow season and we were infested with hogs. Coincidence I think not

Canadian Black Bears 02-21-2014 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by jrdntboy09 (Post 666844)
Only year we ever run hog dogs on our lease before bow season was the best deer season we ever had on numbers and quality. All the surrounding leases where loaded with hogs and not seeing the deer. The hogs did not show back up till end of rifle season. This last season we did not run hog dogs before bow season and we were infested with hogs. Coincidence I think not

Wow, that is amazing. I would never have thought that dogs running and yelping in your deer hunting area would work out like that. Like you say, it must have something to do with so many hogs. We don't any wild hogs here at all and can only run dogs for rabbits or birds. This is why I like this forum so much, stories and threads like this. Cheers and keep em coming

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SGib 02-21-2014 09:32 AM

Coincidence I think so

BuckingFastard 02-21-2014 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by SGib (Post 666978)
Coincidence I think so

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Andy C 02-21-2014 12:41 PM

We run them here 3-5 times a year. plus shoot them year around deer season or not. And the deer have grown grown!!700 ac. With two feeders, but it might be different around here as I have pics of deer and pigs under the same feeder at the same time.

Let um land 02-21-2014 02:02 PM

Dogs and deer
 
Used turn loose 50-60 high powered Walkers in a block and run for 4-6 hours. Go back and still hunt that evening and see deer. Hogs are a little more avoidant of dog areas. IMO

Canadian Black Bears 02-21-2014 02:43 PM

That is absolutely crazy, would never have thought of running dogs in an area I hunted deer. I know if we are on crown land and anyone sees a dog it's fair game and most people shoot them in fear they are running deer.

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SGib 02-21-2014 04:43 PM

60 dogs in an area and still see deer that evening? That's pretty impressive there...

CajunSteelsetter 02-21-2014 04:46 PM

Running hogs in the spring after deer season shouldn't affect your deer hunting in the fall. It's true deer may be pushed out for a short amount of time, but they will shortly resume their old territories and filter back into the area. It might be beneficial actually to decrease the amount of hogs in the area because as already stated they will out compete deer in a hurry for food supplies, and they also will prey on newly dropped fawns. Dog running is effective for hogs. Trapping you have to do it properly and most people don't.

wishiwashuntin 03-08-2014 12:51 AM

I've hunted public land my whole life and have killed plenty of deer, from the ground and climbers, during and after dog season. I think it does make them more cautious but they don't leave the country. They may not be coming out in the food plot or to the corn pile, during the day, but they're still there. I've never been on a lease but if the rules allow it, find some sign in the thick stuff and set up. The only way I've seen dog hunting hurt an area is when you have morons shooting and wounding everything that shakes a leaf. Other than that, I don't believe they go far or stay away for long.


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