Once you get them to come up and eat, throw your chum farther and farther away from the rig. They will follow it out to a certain point. The more distance you give yourself from the rig legs, the better. If you can get them 15-20ft off the rig, it's a heck of a lot easier to catch them.
At 60 and 80#, the bigger fish will get leader shy (especially in clean water). When you get the fish away from the rig, it's not necessary.
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