well, in SPINCAST REELS.. the daiwa gold cast 100 and 120 series reels are anodized for sw use, hold up well and run about $50. the abumatic reels dont do as well and cost $50 and up. zebco 808sw and 888sw arent too bad for the price, selling for $30-$40. the problem with most spincast reels is the slow retrieve ratio. like the zebco has a 2.8:1!