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FF_T_Warren 02-08-2014 08:53 PM

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I am wanting to plant some rice and a mix blend of millet with other things. Anyone know where I can get rice seeds? And some mix? Aside from online because everyone is killing me with shipping from online places. The closer to Baton Rouge or alexandria the better.

hudson 02-08-2014 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by FF_T_Warren (Post 664420)
I am wanting to plant some rice and a mix blend of millet with other things. Anyone know where I can get rice seeds? And some mix? Aside from online because everyone is killing me with shipping from online places. The closer to Baton Rouge or alexandria the better.

Check with g & h feed.they got a few locajtions

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FF_T_Warren 02-08-2014 09:22 PM

Also do any of you know about planting rice. I've been reading up on it but seems like there are several methods and would like some first hand info if someone would like to help me out with some tips

bgizzle 02-08-2014 09:41 PM

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Also do any of you know about planting rice. I've been reading up on it but seems like there are several methods and would like some first hand info if someone would like to help me out with some tips

Such as?

We hand spread some rice in a low water marsh and 50% took. It's gotta be let to grow it's natural life cycle, or harvested to be able to flood and hunt over I believe. If you can control your own water you can do a moist soil management and you'll have all the food you want and be able to manipulate it as you will


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hudson 02-08-2014 09:57 PM

Japanese millet will work all by its self.plant in late July and you good to go

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FF_T_Warren 02-08-2014 10:00 PM

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Such as?

We hand spread some rice in a low water marsh and 50% took. It's gotta be let to grow it's natural life cycle, or harvested to be able to flood and hunt over I believe. If you can control your own water you can do a moist soil management and you'll have all the food you want and be able to manipulate it as you will


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When did you plant? An where did you get seed? I saw many tht say plant in spring but then some say plant in fall so it germinates all winter then sprouts in spring.

FF_T_Warren 02-08-2014 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by hudson (Post 664434)
Japanese millet will work all by its self.plant in late July and you good to go

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I'm gonna plant some of that as well. Did you plant on dry ground such as banks or does it grow in water like rice?

hudson 02-08-2014 10:03 PM

Plant on dry ground then we flooded it.its more water tolerant than brown top

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FF_T_Warren 02-08-2014 10:13 PM

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Plant on dry ground then we flooded it.its more water tolerant than brown top

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Thanks for the tips. That's what I was going to do. Plant on banks then flood.

Bdub 02-09-2014 12:35 AM

Anyone ever make something like this work in a salt marsh?

AubreyLaHaye458 02-09-2014 12:52 AM

If you can, throw the rice seeds in the mud. They start to germ there. Once you've got a little stand put some water on it


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saute86 02-09-2014 12:53 AM

You cant plant rice in standing water it will drown. Plant germinated seed on wet ground and ad water as it grows. Rice will not grow in salt water. That is why during a severe drought some areas cant pump for fear of salt water intrusion.

Bdub 02-09-2014 01:38 AM

Yea I didn't think rice would grow in salt water, we have grass in some areas but I'm just looking for a way to enhance a couple ponds I hunt.

FF_T_Warren 02-09-2014 06:44 AM

What about wild rice? Everything I'm reading about rice says take germinated seeds and just broadcast into the water and it will sink to bottom and sprout up. Says works in water 8-36". Sometimes as little as 4 and as much as 5ft

H2OFwlKlr 02-09-2014 07:14 AM

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Originally Posted by FF_T_Warren (Post 664472)
What about wild rice? Everything I'm reading about rice says take germinated seeds and just broadcast into the water and it will sink to bottom and sprout up. Says works in water 8-36". Sometimes as little as 4 and as much as 5ft


Farmers used to pre-sprout rice, before there were chemicals to control the "wild" red and black rice that were harmful to there conventional rice crop. Soak it, till it started to "pip", or sprout, then fly it in the water in the field. The water was then drained, the root would turn to find moisture, the mud, then a few days later water was pumped back on the field. This allowed the conventional rice a head start over the red and black rice in the ground, by not allowing the red and black rice to start a root, because it did not know where the ground was in the water.

If you get what I'm saying, then by planting your rice in the water, it will all sprout, but only a small percentage will actually make a root and grow. Rice when planted in water allows it to sprout sooner because it is a hard seed, but the water has to be removed for it's root to find the soil and establish a root base, then water is reapplied.

So, my suggestion is throw some in the water if water control is not an option, some may grow, but also throw some on the bank when the water level drops, it will sprout with just moisture in the soil also, and then when the water level rises it will continue to grow and head out.

Sorry, long winded, if you need more info, pm me.

Gottogo49 02-09-2014 07:32 AM

You know deer can swim, just put you a corn spreader and a deer stand out in the marsh. Just kidding, just kidding.

Gottogo49 02-09-2014 07:35 AM

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Originally Posted by H2OFwlKlr (Post 664473)
Farmers used to pre-sprout rice, before there were chemicals to control the "wild" red and black rice that were harmful to there conventional rice crop. Soak it, till it started to "pip", or sprout, then fly it in the water in the field. The water was then drained, the root would turn to find moisture, the mud, then a few days later water was pumped back on the field. This allowed the conventional rice a head start over the red and black rice in the ground, by not allowing the red and black rice to start a root, because it did not know where the ground was in the water.

If you get what I'm saying, then by planting your rice in the water, it will all sprout, but only a small percentage will actually make a root and grow. Rice when planted in water allows it to sprout sooner because it is a hard seed, but the water has to be removed for it's root to find the soil and establish a root base, then water is reapplied.

So, my suggestion is throw some in the water if water control is not an


option, some may grow, but also throw some on the bank when the water level drops, it will sprout with just moisture in the soil also, and then when the water level rises it will continue to grow and head out.

Sorry, long winded, if you need more info, pm me.

Can you sprout them and grow them else where and re-plant them in the water like the Vietnamese do?

H2OFwlKlr 02-09-2014 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Gottogo49 (Post 664476)
Can you sprout them and grow them else where and re-plant them in the water like the Vietnamese do?

Yes, the roots grow shallow, just keep them wet during transit.

Good idea, and a rice plant will grow again after it seeds, ratoon or second crop, and the seeds that fall will try to grow.

Also remember, rice has a growth cycle of about 120 days, depending on the variety. Plant no later than April or May.

bgizzle 02-09-2014 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Bdub (Post 664454)
Anyone ever make something like this work in a salt marsh?

We did it in gc


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lilrab1989 02-09-2014 10:07 AM

when u flood the rice after it comes up make sure u dont cover the rice it will die if u can control your water the best thing to do once it comes up is to flush it to rewet the ground once it gets 4 to 5 ins then start holding water on it.


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