ok, thanks guys.
I have been using roundup the last few years and it does a great job of killing the stuff above ground and "slowing" regrowth but not killing the below ground roots so it keeps coming back over and over and I put it on good so the ground around the stems is wet afterwards.
If I use chemicals to kill something I expect it to stay dead and it just doesn't look like that's working with the roundup. it seams to kill grass good but not so good with the weed regrowth issue.
im going to try that 2-4-D stuff and see what happens.
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