I just checked baker creek and i think they have what i'm looking for. I ordered a pack and I'll get with you when they come in and send you a few. Hey if they aint no good i'll give them to my brother n law in north la. to put out for hogs on his lease. They called cassa banana. From what i remember they used to just make a hill in about a 3 foot diameter circle and plant the seeds in the middle and they just ran on the fence.
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