Gulp!
I hear you Killa'
One of my favorite ways to fish it (for reds) is to just pitch it into the grass, twitch twice, give it slack and watch the line. If it doesn't move I'll pull back the slack slowly to feel for em'. Alot of times they'll suck it up and just sit there with it. It's a great way to fish gulp if you don't see alot of movement/pushing in a pond but your confident they're there. I really like fishing with it.
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