From what I recall Pflueger made one with rolling pickup pins supposedly to reduce line twist and wear....When I was coming up abu matic 170 and 190's were the bee's knees so to speak....I have seen them for sale on e/bay for not that much ...I have 2 like new saving for my grandsons...Use to use one in salt water when I was a kid only thing is the originals are quality as far as spincast goes but on the heavy side...
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