Arrested for fishing part of sabine river???

[regsterdcoonass]

Hello, my name is mike fuselier, im 24 and im a bass fisherman. I am not here to be inflamatory toward anyone, I would just like input of a few legal matters. Heres my story.


Monday april 9th 2012 I was fishing in a part of sabine river called LOST LAKE. I arrived at the location at around 7:15am and fished the east bank from south to north until around 10am. At 10am my partner and I decided to try a couple spots on the way back to the south side of the lake so we could fish in the shade. As we are making our way back to the South end of the lake we here four women shouting at us, and we hurried up to go meet them. They started telling us to leave and we couldnt be there and we better throw whatever fish we caught back into the lake or we would be arrested and have our equipment taken away from us for TRESPASSING on their property. I asked them why I couldnt fish there several times and they told me it belongs to "THE MARSH CLUB" and i couldnt be there. My response probably came off as rude but wasnt intended, I said well I saw no signs and i found this place on a map of sabine river. Her response was that the place was dredged. She proceded to tell me if I left then that nothing would become of it and do not come back. I rudely told her she had no right, the water is part of sabine river(AND I AM RIGHT). The women started taking pictures of my boat numbers my boat and myself and partner. She then proceded to call her boss who will remain anonymous and he told her to tell me again, I will be arrested by the sheriffs department if I did not leave immediately and if i did nothing would become of it. We left and just went home because we were so aggrevated. On our way out we idled threw the cut instead of running as we did to get in(no need to run its 3-4ft deep) and we saw the old faded sign LICENSED HUNTING PRESERVE trespassers will be prosecuted. Which is fine because I was fishing.



Having read this, does anyone know of any law that prevents me from fishing this area? It is my understanding that according to the FEDERAL RIVER LAW, LOUISIANA CIVIL CODES 150-159, and THE PUBLIC TRUST DOCTRINE OF LOUISIANA, I can fish in waters that lay ontop of privately-owned land. Now having said that some of the Louisiana laws conflict with the federal laws(you just have to read them). Regardless of which, the Federal laws always outweigh the state laws.

[weedeater]

welcome aboard and I am sure someone will have insight on this very soon

[PUREBAY2200]

I believe if the land ( privately owned) is under water only because of " tidal movement" or " flooding" you can't fish it if .
That's how u choose where to go and where not to go.
Ya gotta b careful;
I had a gun pulled on me down the tickfaw one Day...... We were only fishing a dock and the owner went ape ch!t on us.

[Hydro]

Welcome to the site Mike !

Where exactly were you off the Sabine ?

Thanks,
Hydro

[weedeater]

I just looked it up on the map and that's an old oxbow off the river.... where did these women come from to tell y'all something because it don't look like there's anything around there

[weedeater]

Originally Posted by Hydro

Welcome to the site Mike !

Where exactly were you off the Sabine ?

Thanks,
Hydro

it looks to be pretty much due west of Nibblets bluff off the main river

[Hydro]

I think its off the powerline cut, heading back East... That would back up to the "Marsh Club" ... (Leave BOB, head north take a right into powerline cut)

There is a trail that goes from the BOB canal to the powerline cut, but I never got a straight answer on who "owned" the marsh so we just go around...

When in doubt, I stay out !!!

Hydro

[DUCKGOGETTER]

First welcome to sc. Second imo i would just not go back there, cause their is plenty of water in that area to fish it's just not worth your time ti have it ruined by a fight.

[regsterdcoonass]

its the principle of the matter. I have every god given right to be there, its a natural waterway. and there are some very big fish in there.

[DUCKGOGETTER]

I understand that, but sometimes imho it's just not worth it.

[weedeater]

Take a map to a wildlife and fisheries office or show it to a gamewarden and find out.... I would find one that works that area

[DUCKGOGETTER]

Originally Posted by weedeater

take a map to a wildlife and fisheries office or show it to a gamewarden and find out.... I would find one that works that area

good idea

[regsterdcoonass]

its always worth it. civil rights are being violated.

[weedeater]

From what I see on a map, Lost Lake borders Sabine Island WMA but its not included in the WMA....... that's why I would talk to a local Gamewarden and make sure you have everything straight before returning.

[Bluechip]

Shoot a PM to Kenner18, I bet he can answer your question.

[regsterdcoonass]

let me be clear. there are two lost lakes. the one that is in question is SOUTH OF I-10 down the powerline canal.

[saute86]

Originally Posted by weedeater

Take a map to a wildlife and fisheries office or show it to a gamewarden and find out.... I would find one that works that area

I use to work for the Marsh Club. They are well connected with the state. The ownwer of the land is Grey Estate. The Marsh Club has a 99 yr lease on the property. The club is owned by very powerful businessmen from Baton Rouge. While working there I fed the Governor and various Senators. I know one phone call and LDWLF will side with them. When they use to suspect poaching they would have guys in airboats waiting to catch them. If I was you I would stay out. I have fished Lost Lake. If it was mine I woud keep anyone one out too. Best bass fishing I have yet to experience. Some areas a fish every cast. It got to the point where I would try to cast and not catch a fish.

[DUCKGOGETTER]

Originally Posted by saute86

i use to work for the marsh club. They are well connected with the state. The ownwer of the land is grey estate. The marsh club has a 99 yr lease on the property. The club is owned by very powerful businessmen from baton rouge. While working there i fed the governor and various senators. I know one phone call and ldwlf will side with them. When they use to suspect poaching they would have guys in airboats waiting to catch them. If i was you i would stay out. I have fished lost lake. If it was mine i woud keep anyone one out too. Best bass fishing i have yet to experience. Some areas a fish every cast. It got to the point where i would try to cast and not catch a fish.

i think here's your answer

[Kenner18]

Yep heres the way it works
Lost Lake is on Gray Estate property.
Gray Estate = BIG $
Which means ---You Lose every time
Trust me it aint worth it for a fish .
Sorry but $ wins every time .

[Hydro]

Originally Posted by Kenner18

Yep heres the way it works
Lost Lake is on Gray Estate property.
Gray Estate = BIG $
Which means ---You Lose every time
Trust me it aint worth it for a fish .
Sorry but $ wins every time .

Thanks for the info !

Who owns the marsh between the BOB canal and the powerline ditch ?

Hydro