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Yea its freaken sad that they are lost for words!!!
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Anyone ever get a response on this?
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You want a response from the Commission? Show up in person. Theh've shown tome and time again that showing yoir face and commenting will get a response and hold more weight than sending passive-aggressive letters about draconian sanctions and how they are scared of the future.
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I've shown up in person over other issues, just couldn't make this meeting.
The LWC is polite, and they politely ignore sportsmen's suggestions unless they are backed by CCA, as the tripletail limit was. A few sportsmen at the meetings does not trump the cash and influence of CCA, especially when it comes to more fishing restrictions. Notice how CCA backed the increase in license fees. Its a quid pro quo they got going on, and the average fisherman is getting hosed. |
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Would 1000s of the same letter really make a difference? People should at least write their own letters and have something sensible to say. Otherwise, this is just spam. Junk mail.
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My God, we have some of the lowest license fees in all of the country. Let's not whine about that. Funny, the one meeting I went to they sure didn't ignore the public. They took the comments into consideration, and actually changed the season dates and times for the shrimp season based on overwhelming public comment. Do they make the best decisions all the time? Maybe not. But maybe they don't believe in taking a liberal approach like you do. Not everyone agrees with that. How liberal is liberal enough? Where do you draw the line? I know a few of them personally that lean towards being more conservative in terms of regulation and management. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G920A using Tapatalk |
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It is not CONSERVATIVE to restrict sportsmen's liberties in pursuing and harvesting game without sound and compelling data demonstrating a true conservation need. LWC has screwed LA Sportsmen over and over again at CCA behest making bad decisions without data showing a true conservation need. |
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Idk, I don't track every freaking thing CCA backs. That wasn't my point.
Funny **** is, you ***** about them caving and not going with science, but the meeting I was at they went against the science and went with public opinion. So which is right? Should they represent the public, or go hy the science? You can't have both, and they are a public agency. They represent CCA membership as well. Maybe the CCA was more vocal on the tripletail matter than anyone else, just as the majority was more vocal in favor of unified statewide openings for shrimp season, as opposed to those who wanted them to leave it alone. They cave to the majority. Doesn't matter what the situation or what the science. They aim to please the most vocal constituents who have the most power to hurt them or cause them trouble. How many people are CCA members vs those that oppose CCA? This seems like a simple thing to understand..a public agency that has never been known for making decisions based solely on science. Anyone with half a brain knows that is how that agency has always operated...BASED ON PUBLIC OPINION! Look at anything. Turkey seasons, duck seasons, shrimp seasons, limits, etc. Whoever holds the most influence gets what they want. Doesn't matter if its CCA, shrimpers, oystermen, or southwest Louisiana duck hunters. If you are the most vocal, you will likely get your way. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G920A using Tapatalk |
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Hence my inclusion of the "SWLA duck hunters" as one of those vocal groups. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G920A using Tapatalk |
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This was no different than the shrimp season situation. The proposed dates were based on data that LDWF compiled. A dozen or so shrimpers showed up, voiced their opinion, and got it changed. They are going to give more weight to a group showing up and voicing their opinion. You and MG and anyone else can argue all day that that is not right, that it should be based on data or hunter opinion or whatever, but that does not change the fact that they have proven time and time again that they are going to give weight to someone that stands at a podium in front of them on the first Thursday of the month. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G920A using Tapatalk |
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All politics here and always will be. |
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Even when the science is done well and there is plenty of data, all science does is provide estimates for the possible ranges of sustainable harvest and the body of regulations likely to lead to harvests within the sustainable ranges. This still leaves a lot of room for public policy makers to adjust seasons, limits, and other regulations to apportion the harvest among stakeholders, and to decide where within the reasonable range of sustainable harvest they want to the regulations to target in a given season or year. I tend to prefer regulatory structures that tend toward an even split of harvests between commercial and recreational interests when dealing with resources sufficiently abundant to support commercial harvests and toward regulatory structures that prohibit or severely limit commercial harvests of resources that are not sufficiently abundant to support thriving commercial markets. But how the available resources are allocated is a purely political rather than scientific matter. Consider the recent crab shortage. I would like to see the commercial harvesters bear more of the burden of the needed harvest reductions. But I'd also like to see the supply available for harvest increased by allowing larger harvests of black drum and other management improvements that can help more crabs reach adulthood in the first place. Good management does not just divide the pie, it figures out how to make a bigger pie. That requires much more attention to habitat and the larger food web. |
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Keep preaching to the choir.
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