omg busted!!!!!!

[speckdaddy]

Ouch !!

From our raid on St. Martins Island on Nov. 19, 2009.

31 bucks and 9 does on the pole. Nothing smaller than a 7 point.
Another
approx. 10 deer, antlers, and heads found on the ground around the camp.
A
mix of smaller bucks and does.

10 deer without tags, approx. another 10 deer with wives/girlfriends
tags.
Investigation continues.

Terry

[longsidelandry]

Holy crap!!! Where is that at???? That's a damn shame that somebody would do something like that, that's the kind of people that give true sportsmen a bad name.

[speckdaddy]

Originally Posted by longsidelandry

Holy crap!!! Where is that at???? That's a damn shame that somebody would do something like that, that's the kind of people that give true sportsmen a bad name.

martin island, down south, these guys are in a helluva pickle

[Jordan]

That's true. Damn son, their screwed

[BIGJ]

This is almost unbelievable. Why would someone do such a thing.
The people responsible for this should loose everything they own and be locked up forever

[Big Flounder]

with the looks of the set up, doesn't look like that is the first time either.

[BIGJ]

Originally Posted by Big Flounder

with the looks of the set up, doesn't look like that is the first time either.

Thats right.
I appauld whomever reported them.

[longsidelandry]

Ok guys I did a little digging and found this:

http://www.hotspotoutdoors.com/forum...pics/2098958/3

I found this, it's info
Hi Everyone,

Wow...what a crazy day it's been for this topic. First, I want to apologize if any of my wording previously was mis-construed as endorsing illegal activities. The picture below (actually not this one but other ones of this buck pole) and the many news stories circulating depicts 31 bucks that were killed on St. Martin's island in Lake Michigan, about 16 miles off the coast of Michigan's southern U.P. There are a million rumors about going around about how all these or even some of them were poached. I'll present the information as I know it, you can decide.

My step-brother, Kris, knows Rich (one of the hunters of the island) personally. I know Rich through Kris. Rich and his crew have been managing this island for many years now. About 4 years ago, Kris helped Rich and his crew manage some does on the island. It was then that Kris (and Rich) convinced the rest of their crew that to truly get better trophy bucks off the island they needed to start culling more of the inferior bucks. (Previously, they would only shoot 10 points or better).

Last year, Rich's group finally all "bought-in" to the idea of culling some bucks. They killed about 15-20 bucks all 8 pts or less. Which brings us to this year (I'm trying to make a long story not quite as long).

Last year they didn't take enough, so this year they brought in 22 hunters to help get more bucks. Rich told me that about 30 different hunters hunted the island during the season (22 was the largest number at one time I guess).

I honestly don't recall how many square miles St Martin's Island is off the top of my head. Someone can look that up. It's big though. You can imagine the attention these guys get when they come back to the main land... worse yet when they get back to town and people don't even know about the island. Jealousy and accusations start to boil. Rumors spread. Wardens get called.

The DNR raided the island this year on the tips of many concerned hunters that "illegal stuff" was going on out there. What the DNR found was 31 bucks on the pole, and several small bucks and does laying around. 10 of the bucks were untagged. The DNR did a thorough investigation, questioning everyone they could. In the end, there were 10 tickets given for the untagged deer.

Let me clarify "untagged deer". These guys had tags for their deer. They were not simply untagged. They just plain hadn't tagged them yet because they were on a private island and weren't too concerned about wardens out there. The tags and the hunters that shot them were there though. So the tickets were more for "delayed tagging" than that of poached deer.

Here's where my opinion comes in:
No, I do not condone them not tagging these deer, and I'm glad they got ticketed for this. They and everyone should know better. However, I do not see this as poaching. How many of you have ever "waited until you got back to camp" or "waited til the next morning" even to get your tag on a buck. It's not right and should be punished, but I don't see it equivalent to poaching. Buying a tag after the fact, putting someone else's tag on it that didn't shoot it, or not having a tag at all are some of my definitions of poaching. If this were found to be true the DNR would've acted accordingly and I would support them for it.

Some other information:
Rich and his guys all divide up and sit with each person who is actually doing the shooting. They get most hunts on video even. If Rich ever gives me permission, maybe I'll feature a clip or two on the site. They do this to ensure that these friends of theirs that they invite in shoot the right buck because not all of them are able to identify the right bucks to shoot.

I do not condone poaching or any illegal activities. If the DNR officers that were on the scene thought there was anything more to the situation than what there was, all of those deer would've been confiscated immediately. I've never know the DNR to leave a stone unturned. I believe these guys were wrong for not tagging each deer immediately, but I do not believe they are poachers. If any other FACTS come to light in this situation, I will post them.

I'll leave this thread unlocked now so anyone else can chime in with their opinions too. Please try to keep it clean and be respectful. I will not stand for this forum being a place for unsubstantiated rumors and accusations to fly around. If I've left something out that I can clarify, let me know. If there are details I don't know, I'll try my best to get an answer.

Thanks everyone.

[speckdaddy]

great folloew up longsidelandry!!!!

[Ray]

That is a lot of meat.
They must want some big horns.
Those are not all inferior, in my
opinion.

[Big Flounder]

If any of you guys have this problem on your land please let me know. I will tag mine.

[Ray]

To take out that many bucks, they must have a good population of them.

[all star rod]

Kill em all and let GOD sort them out.....Hell since they let you feed/bait deer why not let you kill what ever you want! As you can tell, I am not and will not never be a deer hunter!

[fishinpox]

i wonder if them dudes ever been snapper fishing

[longsidelandry]

Originally Posted by fishinpox

i wonder if them dudes ever been snapper fishing

lol Seems like a few of them would have been on that boat.

[huntin fool]

We did something like that at my lease in '01 But we was legal. Unlike them



Sorry im not in the pic, i took the picture, but it was fun!!!

[Ray]

That was on the NASA property in Mississippi. Right across the La./Miss. line.

[huntin fool]

Originally Posted by Ray

That was on the NASA property in Mississippi. Right across the La./Miss. line.

NO they jacked the picture from my facebook, and sent a email out with it!!!!! I SWEAR!!!! lmao

[Ray]

Fishermen lie. Jordan tole me that.

[Gerald]

Ray......I thought I remember that pic was taken up in Minn. on a hunt to kill all the Deer in the [can't remember....the equivalent of Mad Cow] for Deer CWD area.

But all the trees in the pic look to green to be up in Minn.