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View Poll Results: Should Louisiana Legalize Drugs?
Marijuana only, and only for adults. Still a felony to provide to minors. 26 48.15%
Marijuana only for adults, reduced penalties for access to minors. 5 9.26%
Legalize all drugs for consenting adults. 6 11.11%
No changes to current Louisiana drugs laws. 15 27.78%
Reduce penalty for first time marijuana users: no jail time. 2 3.70%
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The most effective efforts to date to reduce drug use by adolescents in the United States was a combination of Reagan's "Just Say No!" campaign with diligent enforcement of existing laws:

High school seniors using cannabis dropped from 50.1% in 1978 to 36% in 1987, to 12% in 1991 and the percentage of students using other drugs decreased similarly. Psychedelic drug use dropped from 11% to 6%, cocaine from 12% to 10%, and heroin from 1% to 0.5%.

If scientists in other countries want to legalize drugs, let them do it in their own countries, and we'll see over decades if these countries prosper and grow or decline. Likewise, let's keep an eye on Colorado and California before we rush into the abyss.
Reagan's program to some extent... Possibly... overzealous enforcement via war on drug laws.... mandatory minimum sentencing, 3 strikes rules... MOST DEFINETLY not.

The most effective drug management programs have not come from the US.

Why should we not take cue's from other countries successes and failures in regards to handling drugs. Are american people made somehow fundamentally different than everyone else on the face of this world? Are you saying that we are sub-standard as compared to others? Are we not intelligent enough to figure out 2 + 2 equals 4? Are we as american's not bound by the same laws of science and physics as is the rest of the world.
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Ha ha.
can someone please give me the layman's terms of laying the 8? i have seen it mentioned here a few times but i'm not getting the reference.
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We certainly have some valid case studies on how a continued march to the tunes of Criminalization and Enforcement works.

Simply look to the example's of Nazi Germany, and Stalinist Russian. Dissent, Drug use, Being of questionable ethnicity, Homosexuality...... etc all led to a rather final form of criminalization and it was enforced by brainwashed thugs in jackboots (some in black uniforms and some in brown one's) It's well documented that the death camps were originally envisioned by the nazi party as a whole and Hitler in particular as holding zones for undesirables. Who could then be used as forced labour.

If you destroy someone's life by criminalizing to a outrageous extent some small unimportant thing they are doing which really only effects them. Then they end up in the repeating jail cycle. and effectively end up with a sentence of life in jail. How is that really any different than gassing them and sending them to the oven. Either way you have taken away all personal liberties from them. Only realistic differences are in there method you die sooner rather than later, in our method we place the financial burden up our citizens to feed and house them.
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They couldnt do that. Everyone knows. After 1 hit they would chase down a shrimp boat and try and score some meth.
LOL.... you ain't right.
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Alcohol legal after 21 years of age

Weed illegal by federal laws !!

Again there is zero to compare



If you want to find legal things as dangerous as Alcohol go ahead

Paints, gas, diesel, asbestos, etc



But if you want to post illegal things bad as weed
Meth, cocaine, etc
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Alcohol legal after 21 years of age

Weed illegal by federal laws !!

Again there is zero to compare



If you want to find legal things as dangerous as Alcohol go ahead

Paints, gas, diesel, asbestos, etc



But if you want to post illegal things bad as weed
Meth, cocaine, etc
So what you are saying Dubya, is if the federal laws change and marijuana is made legal you would have no problem with it?
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Visine stocks are about to explode! LMAO.
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What about federal gun laws ? After all big Brother knows best right ?
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So what you are saying Dubya, is if the federal laws change and marijuana is made legal you would have no problem with it?

If Federal law makes it legal and puts a age on it...not much we can say

Will Federal ever make it legal, I don't see it in the near future. So until then its an illegal drug that calls for jail time ! So you can not compare weed vs alcohol
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The above graph shows that high school use of marijuana increases when perceived risk is low and decreases when perceived risk is high.

How are most high school students likely to perceive the risk of marijuana use if it is legalized for adults?

Do they ever buy the argument that something is safe for adults, but risky for teenagers?
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The above graph shows we can clearly do this all day !
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Alcohol legal after 21 years of age

Weed illegal by federal laws !!

Again there is zero to compare



If you want to find legal things as dangerous as Alcohol go ahead

Paints, gas, diesel, asbestos, etc



But if you want to post illegal things bad as weed
Meth, cocaine, etc
Well gosh darnit W. We have already established that you know this thread is not about whether or not weed is legal / illegal. You already got a gold star because you figured out that weed is illegal. You don't get another for saying the same thing again.

Gotta learn a new trick to get another gold star.... Silly W.
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The above graph shows that high school use of marijuana increases when perceived risk is low and decreases when perceived risk is high.

How are most high school students likely to perceive the risk of marijuana use if it is legalized for adults?

Do they ever buy the argument that something is safe for adults, but risky for teenagers?
I perceive that there is no graph.. However,

It doesn't matter how they perceive it... if they can't gain access to it because we have effectively regulated it.???????????
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Whats really at question here is do you actually want your children to end up as drug user's of any type.

If you continue with the extraordinarily bad policies of criminalization that have been part and parcel of the "War on drugs" you are being part of what is making the drug culture more powerful in america each and every day. Every year that the real issues are ignored, drug cartel's earn an estimated 64 BILLION dollars in profit. Like any other successful business they return a large portion of their profits to improving there business model.

The business model they are trying to achieve is to have every single person as an addict under their thumb. By continuing to play into their hands, we are just making that more of a reality every single day.
Sad that no one bothered to answer this question. To busy sifting through all the scientific data and trying to find "clips" to support there personal agenda and opinion i suppose.
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If Federal law makes it legal and puts a age on it...not much we can say

Will Federal ever make it legal, I don't see it in the near future. So until then its an illegal drug that calls for jail time ! So you can not compare weed vs alcohol
I can't even say anything... just shaking my head... wow.
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Hey MathGeek you are needed on the 'wiers' thread, will you post a pic of east side of Big Lake from the same site you got that pic you posted?
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