CCA backs raise of license fee- Thoughts?

[BIG RED 1983]

Originally Posted by keakar

ok, so its all our fault CCA doesn't show up at legislative meetings and such

if we all donated a few more millions of dollars would they finally show up then? or would they still be too busy with local fund raisers and labeling marker bouys after themselves?

he just mad he got owned by cajun

["W"]

Originally Posted by biggun

W

As U know I'm from Abbeville. I do fish BL. CCA wasn't even in the fight about the Oyster dredging..

As for as BL trout limits I remember, reading many articles that that Many, Many, Guides were in FAVOR of the 15 trout..

The many pictures of wade fisherman from Texas coming and smoking large trout in the winter time. as well as numerous, articles and pictures of stringers of extremely large trout in the LA sportsman mag. Was the start of the whole trout limit reduction..

Again the oyster fisherman was another issue.. That was a local State Representative..

Assigning blame to CCA for the oysters or trout in BL; is like Blaming me for the BP oil spill because I started working for them as 3rd party safety consultant after the incident..

I got to go to work..

Man CMON...

Unless all the guides I have asked about the 15trout limit lied to me, I have not found one on the East side here at Heberts that said it was a good thing other than getting a limit faster

One guide service pushed it


Will Drost, an avid angler and Lake Charles businessman, supports lowering the limit to 15 trout per day. He actually prefers 10 per day, but believes more people would support a 15-fish limit. However, he wants to see more scientific studies conducted in the estuary.


Biological observations

Biologists don’t see a problem with the trout population in Calcasieu Lake. They said that anglers might catch fewer specks because fish simply don’t bite occasionally or they move to find better food, temperatures or water conditions.

“The speckled trout population in the Calcasieu Estuary is healthy,” said Mike Harbison, a biologist with the Louisiana Department of Wildlife and Fisheries in Lake Charles. “I don’t see a biological need to change the limit. We are finding fish in our sampling. If something is not broken, why fix it?”

Trout spawn from April through September with the peak in June, Harbison said. A speck reaches sexual maturity after one year. One large trout can produce 1.65 million eggs in a spawning season.

A trout may live 13 years, but most die before they live one year. More than 90 percent of trout die before they live four years. About four percent reach 25 inches long. One percent reaches 26 inches. Natural mortality from predators or other environmental factors take 66 percent of the trout regardless of fishing pressure. If the state banned fishing entirely, that percentage will not change, Harbison said.

“If we dropped the limit to 15 fish per day, we’ll only save about 14 percent of the fish caught now,” Harbison said. “If we go down to 10 fish per day, we’ll save about 29 percent of the fish now caught and kept. To make any significant changes, we’ll have to go to eight fish per day or less.”


Biological observations

Biologists don’t see a problem with the trout population in Calcasieu Lake. They said that anglers might catch fewer specks because fish simply don’t bite occasionally or they move to find better food, temperatures or water conditions.

“The speckled trout population in the Calcasieu Estuary is healthy,” said Mike Harbison, a biologist with the Louisiana Department of Wildlife and Fisheries in Lake Charles. “I don’t see a biological need to change the limit. We are finding fish in our sampling. If something is not broken, why fix it?”

Trout spawn from April through September with the peak in June, Harbison said. A speck reaches sexual maturity after one year. One large trout can produce 1.65 million eggs in a spawning season.

A trout may live 13 years, but most die before they live one year. More than 90 percent of trout die before they live four years. About four percent reach 25 inches long. One percent reaches 26 inches. Natural mortality from predators or other environmental factors take 66 percent of the trout regardless of fishing pressure. If the state banned fishing entirely, that percentage will not change, Harbison said.

“If we dropped the limit to 15 fish per day, we’ll only save about 14 percent of the fish caught now,” Harbison said. “If we go down to 10 fish per day, we’ll save about 29 percent of the fish now caught and kept. To make any significant changes, we’ll have to go to eight fish per day or less.”


On the other side of Calcasieu Lake, Kirk Stansel of Hackberry Rod and Gun Club wants the lake granted “trophy status.” He also supports a 15-fish daily creel and wants to see the minimum size raised to 14 inches to give fish one more chance to spawn before hitting an ice chest.

“I’d like to see the lake declared ‘the trophy estuary of the Gulf Coast,’” he said. “Everyone wants to catch a limit of fish, but the majority of people who come here from other areas want to catch a big trout, not fill their freezers. If we lower the limit and the rest of the state keeps the 25-fish limit, that will hurt our business some, but if we lose our fish, we won’t have any business at all. If the lake is declared a trophy lake, that might even increase our clientele.”

Stansel said his club fishes about 10 boats per day, each with a guide and one to three anglers. They can expand to 20 boats if necessary. Their boats catch a three-person limit of 75 trout about three to five percent of the time or less.

Too many weirs

[sam vitter]

Although I am a CCA member,I am opposed to the saltwater license fee increase.Too many times dedicated monies are transferred to the general fund,or for some politicians pet project...I have lived in south La all my life,and seen this happen many times..Just my opinion...

[keakar]

Originally Posted by sam vitter

Although I am a CCA member,I am opposed to the saltwater license fee increase.Too many times dedicated monies are transferred to the general fund,or for some politicians pet project...I have lived in south La all my life,and seen this happen many times..Just my opinion...

true and while im not opposed to increasing the fees after all these years without any increase, this is too big of an increase and just a pure money grab for politicians while CCA is standing there not only not opposing the size of the increase but applauding it in full support. I don't want to give politicians any more money to waste as they prove that's all they know how to do.

this is one more issue where CCA (if it truly cared or represented the interests of recreational fishermen) they should be demanding proof where the money will be spent and oversee wasteful spending and publicly report about it. politicians don't like bad press so they avoid doing things that cause bad press.

so to clarify,
do I think the increase is all that bad? not really, but the size of it is too much.
do I think it should be supported without having a good strong case made for why its needed and how it can be prevented from being wasted as just more free revenue? no

[3FLa]

Biggun, I mean bigmouth...not only have your past actions proven you are a liar and coward, but now you have proven you are also a hypocrite.

You actually have the nerve to NOW ask for us to join together as one, when you are the one who sent emails to your members to physically harm me because I checked you are your fabricated facts. I threat you seem to never make in person

Then you say I only made conjecture. Please challenge just one, one fact I stated that you believe conjecture.

Remember, just a few days ago, I said the commercial fisherman clean the recreational fishermen's clock in Wahsington and you said that was not true. Well you best go read your very ownd CCA website, because what I said earlier this week is now a featured article on its website.

I think you must be drinkiing more than kool aid, little coward.

One more thing, boy, was that the Gulf Council laughing at the credibility of CCA at the meeting this week or were they just happy to see you all.

[Top Dawg]

Originally Posted by CajunMade

Biggun, I mean bigmouth...not only have your past actions proven you are a liar and coward, but now you have proven you are also a hypocrite.

You actually have the nerve to NOW ask for us to join together as one, when you are the one who sent emails to your members to physically harm me because I checked you are your fabricated facts. I threat you seem to never make in person

Then you say I only made conjecture. Please challenge just one, one fact I stated that you believe conjecture.

Remember, just a few days ago, I said the commercial fisherman clean the recreational fishermen's clock in Wahsington and you said that was not true. Well you best go read your very ownd CCA website, because what I said earlier this week is now a featured article on its website.

I think you must be drinkiing more than kool aid, little coward.

One more thing, boy, was that the Gulf Council laughing at the credibility of CCA at the meeting this week or were they just happy to see you all.

#owned

[Spunt Drag]

Just got caught up. CCA gettin beat like a rented mule up in here.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by sam vitter

Although I am a CCA member,I am opposed to the saltwater license fee increase.Too many times dedicated monies are transferred to the general fund,or for some politicians pet project...I have lived in south La all my life,and seen this happen many times..Just my opinion...

License increase will be dedicated to dock surveys and have a 3 yr sunset. Success of program will be determining factor on longevity.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by Spunt Drag

Just got caught up. CCA gettin beat like a rented mule up in here.

I will personally pay for any of those cca buster stickers for any and all guides on big lake if and only if they are afixed to the front windshield of their boats.
Any takers or just talkers?

[Spunt Drag]

Not a guide, but if somebody gets some made, I'll stick one right now.

[Top Dawg]

I'll take one also

["W"]

Originally Posted by Raymond

I will personally pay for any of those cca buster stickers for any and all guides on big lake if and only if they are afixed to the front windshield of their boats.
Any takers or just talkers?

Well let me count... after reading this thread to them

Right now.. I have 6 Guides here at Heberts who will take a sticker!! If you don't believe me drive down we are drinking beer talking with the WL&F survey guy here at Heberts

[keakar]

im not happy with that sticker.

its not plain enough in what it is saying by a symbol that cant easily be red unless you already know what it says. I would prefer to have it spelled out underneath "I NO LONGER SUPPORT CCA BECAUSE CCA NO LONGER SUPPORTS ME" or for that matter just give me that bumper sticker and I know of 6 people plus me right now who will put them on the truck and boat and a few house storm doors as well.

the little round one is cute but not bold enough IMHO

Originally Posted by Raymond

I will personally pay for any of those cca buster stickers for any and all guides on big lake if and only if they are afixed to the front windshield of their boats.
Any takers or just talkers?

Raymond you "assume" wrong, guides are NOT ashamed to make their opinions known and customers and sportsmen who use them surely will ask about it and im sure they welcome the chance to educate them on just what the CCA has become and what it is doing or rather not doing, and why they no longer deserve to have the support of sportsmen.,

[biggun]

CajunMade

Lets See! Just One Conjecture???

1. No Way CCA Louisiana is Owned by people from TX.. DO THEY OWN MISS. CCA, Bama CCA, FLa. CCA?? Name them???

2. NOT ONE CCA LA Executive Board Member Is PAID A SALARY other than the Director..

3. NAME ONE LA CCA Board Member WHO "OWN's" A RIG Removal Company in Texas.

4. Again U call me names..

5. We have NEVER been at the same function together.

Call Me Boy, Big Mouth, Lair, and Hypocrite on Here all U want.. U don't have the guts to Come to any SC function, and Say that to My FACE..

The Outcome may not be to UR satisfaction..

TO everyone Else.. If U don't think Chris Moran, owner of CajunMade Charters, and Moran's Marina in Fourchon. IS A TAD bit upset with this gentlemen using the USERNAME CAJUNMADE.. And It's Not Effecting his Charter Service?? Think Again..

ANYONE.. Please PM me and I'll give U Chris's Phone Number... And U can Call him UR Self and ASK..

CajunMade DOESN'T have the GUTS to Call Chris Moran right Now........ NOR POST IS REAL NAME AND CELLPHONE NUMBER SO CHRIS CAN SPEAK TO HIM IN PERSON.




PS. U still haven't indicated WHAT ORGANIZATION? And IT'S MISSION STATEMENT U CLAIM to REPRESENT.

["W"]

Biggun, me and you always got a long great both work in oil industry but man you really need to stop drinking that CCA Kool aid


CCA is not for us, they are only for guys with big pockets not the little man. Ex trout limit on big lake, money pumpers
Oyster dredging scared to buck one person


Hey CCA did build a reef ($600,000+) and name it after a guy and placed bouys on it!! Hell even made the paper with the sunshine pumper with starched shirts on

[biggun]

W

Sorry.. U have UR opinion, I respectfully Disagree... I don't agree WITH Everything CCA DOES or SAYS.. But the Majority of what CCA does I support..

I don't Agree with EVERYTHING Duck Unlimited or Delta Waterfowl does either.. But I still support them..

I've supported this site. Supported any charitable money raising function we EVER HAD.

This Should have been placed in the GILL NET BY THE MODs along time AGO..

MOD's. Please PM ME ASAP...

[Goooh]

Why would this go in the gill net?

I'm calling foul and an attempt to stifle free speech.

Can we get some pictures in this thread? How bout some shorter posts?

[noodle creek]

Doesn't need to go to gillnet until we get a CajunMade response.

[eman]

Why should it be in the gill net??? No porn , cussing or personal attacks????
I got Threatened w/ a ban a few years ago from LAS for stating the facts about CCA .
Guess what? Once they learned the truth I got an apology. I notice that the biggest outdoor site in La. doesn't support CCA like they used to???
Let this stay in a public forum for all to see and comment on.

[biggun]

Eman..

I think CajunMade has called Me BIGMOUTH, LAIR, Hypocrite, Boy. Etc..

My final Post on this thread.