SaltyCajun.com http://www.lyonsagency.com//

Notices

Go Back   SaltyCajun.com > Fishing Talk > The Conservationist's Corner

The Conservationist's Corner For discussion of everything to do with conservation!

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 10-05-2010, 06:08 PM
Ray's Avatar
Ray Ray is offline
Great White
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: House
Posts: 10,432
Cash: 1,167
Default We need to stay on top of this

Oyster buyer Bill Parker asked the Cameron Parish Jury to consider supporting the opening of the West Cove of Calcasieu Lake with a 15 sack limit, in the face of a proposed decrease from 15 to 10 sacks on the east side this fall. He said a 33% decrease in income would hurt the local oyster fishermen, and opening West Cove to more harvesting would cultivate the beds and make them more valuable next year. The proposed opening of the Louisiana side of the Sabine Lake would also help oyster fishermen. Parker said Cameron Parish oysters are some of the best on the market, and with the east side of the state closed down due to the oil spill, the pressure on southwest Louisiana will be greater this year. The matter will be referred to the Cameron Parish Oyster Task Force.
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 10-05-2010, 07:40 PM
adamsfence's Avatar
adamsfence adamsfence is offline
King Mackeral
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: oakdale
Posts: 2,884
Cash: 1,002
Default

thats what we need is more oyster boats
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 10-05-2010, 08:06 PM
jchief's Avatar
jchief jchief is offline
Calcasieu Extreme Rods
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Carlyss, America
Posts: 10,371
Cash: 13,300
Default

Ray, who do we need to contact?
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 10-05-2010, 08:28 PM
PaulMyers's Avatar
PaulMyers PaulMyers is offline
Super Moderator
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Moss Bluff, LA
Posts: 10,057
Cash: 18,470
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by jchief View Post
Ray, who do we need to contact?
x2
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 10-05-2010, 09:01 PM
LaAngler LaAngler is offline
Banned
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: LA
Posts: 6,199
Default

all about the $$$$$

shame

i think sabine lake is closed this year again too
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 10-06-2010, 07:38 AM
Ray's Avatar
Ray Ray is offline
Great White
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: House
Posts: 10,432
Cash: 1,167
Default

They are asking the parish to get with the LDWF Oyster Task Force to change the sack limits to wipe out the West Cove because basically they already wiped out the East side.
They want to up the West Cove sack limit and lower the East Side sack limit.
And they want to open the La. bank of the Sabine Lake.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 10-06-2010, 07:40 AM
Ray's Avatar
Ray Ray is offline
Great White
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: House
Posts: 10,432
Cash: 1,167
Default

The Conservationist's Corner: Big Lake Oyster Season - SaltyCajun.com
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 10-06-2010, 11:07 AM
Raymond's Avatar
Raymond Raymond is offline
Sailfish
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Lake Charles La
Posts: 4,217
Cash: 1,334
Default

How can there be any legeal sized oysters left in West Cove right now?
Those guys would pull right up to fishing boats and start their death draggs last spring. They don't give a $hit, which is typical Louisiana short sightedness. I figured this was going to happen with the east closures!

How do they "wlf" keep up with the east/west limits? Might as well let them dredge all the oysters this year so they will not be back the following because there are none to be had.

Might need to add a Stainless Riot gun to my Wading Gear this Fall!!!!
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 10-06-2010, 03:27 PM
Ray's Avatar
Ray Ray is offline
Great White
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: House
Posts: 10,432
Cash: 1,167
Default

They have to release anything under a certain size, in the same area they caught them at.
Changing from tonging to mechanical dredges is going to hurt the oyster reefs, in my opinion. I'd bet there were mayby 1/4 the oyster boats when there was tonging only.
In La., you can have one license per registered boat. That means one man can have 5 boats(I know one that does), that has an oyster license for each boat. He can catch 5 limits per day. When tonging, no one could fathom tonging enough oysters in one day to fill 5 limits.
Plus more people are oystering cause it is so much easier to dredge, winch them in, throw it back overboard and start dredging again while culling and sacking.
But on a bright side, once the oystering is dead cause there are no more oysters, or not enough to make good money, they will have to go back to tonging. It's happened before, it will happen again.
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 10-06-2010, 03:30 PM
Ray's Avatar
Ray Ray is offline
Great White
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: House
Posts: 10,432
Cash: 1,167
Default

This is not going to help either:

The Conservationist's Corner: Oyster fishermen are helping the lake - SaltyCajun.com
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 10-11-2010, 09:42 AM
Ray's Avatar
Ray Ray is offline
Great White
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: House
Posts: 10,432
Cash: 1,167
Default

Cameron Parish Police Jurors adopted a resolution asking the state to open
the Louisiana side of the Sabine Lake to oyster fishing, with a limit of 10 sacks, and
to open the West Cove of Calcasieu Lake with the same limit.
These openings and limits were recommended by the Cameron Parish Oyster Task
Force. The state Department of Wildlife and Fisheries willmake a final decision on
the sack limits Thursday.
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 10-11-2010, 11:20 AM
Gerald Gerald is offline
Sailfish
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Lake Charles / Moss Bluff
Posts: 4,648
Cash: 4,182
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ray View Post
Cameron Parish Police Jurors adopted a resolution asking the state to open
the Louisiana side of the Sabine Lake to oyster fishing, with a limit of 10 sacks, and
to open the West Cove of Calcasieu Lake with the same limit.
These openings and limits were recommended by the Cameron Parish Oyster Task
Force. The state Department of Wildlife and Fisheries willmake a final decision on
the sack limits Thursday.
Is that 10 sacks per person per day?

Or per license?
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 10-11-2010, 03:45 PM
Ray's Avatar
Ray Ray is offline
Great White
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: House
Posts: 10,432
Cash: 1,167
Default

Per license.
The only people who have a sack per person limit is recreational oyster fishermen.
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 10-11-2010, 09:57 PM
Raymond's Avatar
Raymond Raymond is offline
Sailfish
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Lake Charles La
Posts: 4,217
Cash: 1,334
Default

WTH??? Oyster Task Force? What biological evidence do they use to make their determination for harvest??? There has got to be some explanation for their decision. I can't believe oysters can grow fast enough to be harvested twice in one year on such a small body of water without undersized oysters being
kept.
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 10-12-2010, 06:47 AM
Ray's Avatar
Ray Ray is offline
Great White
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: House
Posts: 10,432
Cash: 1,167
Default

Oysters take about 3 years to grow to legal size.
They can scrape the bottom all they want, but they cannot keep any undersized oysters.
They have to release the undersized oysters in the same area they caught them in. They cannot be moved to another area and released.
LDWF doesn't want the oyster fishermen to release them where they cannot grow.
Reply With Quote
  #16  
Old 10-12-2010, 06:54 AM
southern151's Avatar
southern151 southern151 is offline
Blue Marlin
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Gonzales
Posts: 8,705
Cash: 3,546
Default

Raymond, $$$$ is the scientific evidence they go by.
Reply With Quote
  #17  
Old 10-12-2010, 06:11 PM
Reel Bender's Avatar
Reel Bender Reel Bender is offline
Red Snapper
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Tx Gulf Coast
Posts: 1,771
Cash: 650
Default

I say let them open it up!!!!!!!!!!

It will keep your Oyster Boats at home so they don't invade us again!!!!!!!!!!
Reply With Quote
  #18  
Old 10-12-2010, 08:45 PM
Gerald Gerald is offline
Sailfish
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Lake Charles / Moss Bluff
Posts: 4,648
Cash: 4,182
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ray View Post
Oysters take about 3 years to grow to legal size.
They can scrape the bottom all they want, but they cannot keep any undersized oysters.
They have to release the undersized oysters in the same area they caught them in. They cannot be moved to another area and released.
LDWF doesn't want the oyster fishermen to release them where they cannot grow.
Ray....In your opinon, are they doing this? Send me a PM....if you want to keep it off the board. Do they just dump them in one big pile or do they drift and slowly dump them?

Are the oysters still alive when they release them?
Reply With Quote
  #19  
Old 10-20-2010, 04:07 PM
Ray's Avatar
Ray Ray is offline
Great White
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: House
Posts: 10,432
Cash: 1,167
Default

THey have to release them alive in the same place. It would not be to their advantage to let them die then release them.
The buyers will not by undersized oysters either. They don't want to lose their license.

The sack limit now is 20 sacks per day.
Reply With Quote
  #20  
Old 10-20-2010, 04:19 PM
mstulb's Avatar
mstulb mstulb is offline
Trophy Trout
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Lake Charles
Posts: 300
Cash: 1,007
Default Man man I tell you what

There are reefs in west cove that still have no oyster growth, after the dredging last winter and spring. All boats from Texas also, got shut down in Sabine (wonder why) so they destroyed the reefs in west cove last spring.
60-90 boats dragging chain's and metal baskets across the natural reefs..

What kind of backward state do we live in where natural reefs and spawning grounds are alowed to be knowingly destroyed.. Biggest issue is that they are allowing this during the spawning season on big lake.

Also the oyster market is dominated by pasteruized oysters and there is honestly no need to even allow this destuctive dredging...





Quote:
Originally Posted by Raymond View Post
How can there be any legeal sized oysters left in West Cove right now?
Those guys would pull right up to fishing boats and start their death draggs last spring. They don't give a $hit, which is typical Louisiana short sightedness. I figured this was going to happen with the east closures!

How do they "wlf" keep up with the east/west limits? Might as well let them dredge all the oysters this year so they will not be back the following because there are none to be had.

Might need to add a Stainless Riot gun to my Wading Gear this Fall!!!!
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 07:16 PM.



Powered by vBulletin®
Copyright ©2000 - [ARG:3 UNDEFINED], Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
vB.Sponsors
vBCredits v1.4 Copyright ©2007 - 2008, PixelFX Studios
SaltyCajun.com logo provided by Bryce Risher

All content, images, designs, and logos are Copyright © 2009-2012,
Salty Cajun, LLC
No unathorized use is permitted
Geo Visitors Map