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"W" · #81 01-20-2011, 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by evis102

Big fish do bred big fish. 90% of trout will never get over 7lbs no matter how old they are or how much they eat. It's the same with deer. Not every buck will grow into a trophy. Big bucks and big trout have the same thing incommon, the genetics to be big. The longer you keep the trophy genetics in the pool the more trophys you will have be it trout or deer.

This is not any where close to true!!!! Every trout has the same potential to become a trophy! Not one ounce of evidence has every determine this!

It is the biggest assumption by everyone!

Hopedale Hustler · #82 01-20-2011, 05:49 PM

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This is not any where close to true!!!! Every trout has the same potential to become a trophy! Not one ounce of evidence has every determine this!

It is the biggest assumption by everyone!

Ya I agree big trout don't mean they will breed bigger trout...if that were the case then y doesn't the smaller male fertilizing the egg have anything to do with it?? How are trout like deer?? Not even mammals....

"W" · #83 01-20-2011, 05:52 PM

A 10inch male can fertilize a 12lb trout if the eggs are ready!!!

No such thing about Big Fish bred big fish! A male trout will fertilize everything they can

Asterisk-Rich · #84 01-20-2011, 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by "W"

A 10inch male can fertilize a 12lb trout if the eggs are ready!!!

No such thing about Big Fish bred big fish! A male trout will fertilize everything they can

how tall is your father?

Asterisk-Rich · #85 01-20-2011, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Hopedale Hustler

Ya I agree big trout don't mean they will breed bigger trout...if that were the case then y doesn't the smaller male fertilizing the egg have anything to do with it?? How are trout like deer?? Not even mammals....

how fat is your father?

Asterisk-Rich · #86 01-20-2011, 05:57 PM

and im not trying to be rude...just saying that genetics plays a part in all walks of life...and if you dont believe that than you are a moron

"W" · #87 01-20-2011, 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Asterisk-Rich

and im not trying to be rude...just saying that genetics plays a part in all walks of life...and if you dont believe that than you are a moron

NOT In TROUT..........But if you can find some documentation I will be glad to see it!... I have spoken to several biologist and not one believe that theory! Because there is not one ounce of evidence

evis102 · #88 01-20-2011, 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by "W"

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This is not any where close to true!!!! Every trout has the same potential to become a trophy! Not one ounce of evidence has every determine this!

It is the biggest assumption by everyone!

So you think all 3 year old trout are the same length and weight? Ofcourse there not. Do you think a 30" 10lb trout that is close in age to a 15" 2lb trout have the exact same genetic makeup? Ofcourse they don't. Did you ever hear of natural selection and evolution? The very idea that all trout are the exact same is so flawed that it does not need to be proven wrong due to the fact it goes against the rules of nature. Nothing produced in nature is the exact same. Nothing produced in nature has the exact same potential. If you are in a group of anything that has to chase food to have something to eat, the fastest one in the group is going to get more to eat and have the potential to be bigger than the rest of the group. Thus when the fastest has offspring there is a high chance this trait will be passed on giving the offspring the potential to be faster and bigger than all the other offspring. This is the way nature works.

Hopedale Hustler · #89 01-20-2011, 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Asterisk-Rich

and im not trying to be rude...just saying that genetics plays a part in all walks of life...and if you dont believe that than you are a moron

mah daddy is a big ole samoan/coonass dude...strange mix...but i did inherit his genes no doubt....but i aint a fish and fish are the topic of discussion here....fish do not directly inherit genes from there parents....or mother...thats why they all look the same for the most part...how many speckled trout have you seen with birth defects inherited from their parent?? in fact studies say that the one thing fish are most likely to inherit from their parent is color believe it or not..

"W" · #90 01-20-2011, 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by evis102

So you think all 3 year old trout are the same length and weight? Ofcourse there not. Do you think a 30" 10lb trout that is close in age to a 15" 2lb trout have the exact same genetic makeup? Ofcourse they don't. Did you ever hear of natural selection and evolution? The very idea that all trout are the exact same is so flawed that it does not need to be proven wrong due to the fact it goes against the rules of nature. Nothing produced in nature is the exact same. Nothing produced in nature has the exact same potential. If you are in a group of anything that has to chase food to have something to eat, the fastest one in the group is going to get more to eat and have the potential to be bigger than the rest of the group. Thus when the fastest has offspring there is a high chance this trait will be passed on giving the offspring the potential to be faster and bigger than all the other offspring. This is the way nature works.

No...I'm not saying all trout are the same! I'm saying just because a trout grows to 10lbs does not mean he spawned from a 7lb trout are bigger! Fish adapt to habitat and estuary they live in! We have all the right things for a healthy trout system, does not mean because big trout are spawning with big trout! You male trout is only gets to 3 to 4lbs full grown (yes they have ones bigger ) I'm talking about over all! You big males are about 18inchs and fertilize the same as a 10inch trout! What makes a big trout big???? Surviving the elements! And having a great habit to live!

Salty · #91 01-20-2011, 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by "W"

A 10inch male can fertilize a 12lb trout if the eggs are ready!!!

Yep!

"W" · #92 01-20-2011, 07:48 PM

Salty just because you have no idea about this subject and can not comprehend ..... Go post whore in sports bar

Salty · #93 01-20-2011, 07:51 PM

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Salty just because you have no idea about this subject and can not comprehend ..... Go post whore in sports bar

I admit that I'm not a biologist. Fact is....neither are you.

longcast · #94 01-20-2011, 07:51 PM

Hahahaha.

Montauk17 · #95 01-20-2011, 07:54 PM

Bringing back old times....don't forget salty,W is the jackazz of all trades

"W" · #96 01-20-2011, 08:07 PM

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I admit that I'm not a biologist. Fact is....neither are you.

Your right!!!! Your not I'm not! but I have had hours of conversations with them(Biologist) ! So I know for a Fact I know 100% know more about this than you!

mikedatiger · #97 01-20-2011, 08:07 PM

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Yep!

Salty, that is my pic and you owe me royalties. Screw all this talk, I want $$$

BTW, I saw a post saying how one of the guys in the pic is well respected along the TX coast. I have fished with several "prominent" TX fishermen/fisherwomen and have yet to see one keep a sow trout...

Salty · #98 01-20-2011, 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by "W"

Your right!!!! Your not I'm not! but I have had hours of conversations with them(Biologist) ! So I know for a Fact I know 100% know more about this than you!

100% of 0 is 0.

Salty · #99 01-20-2011, 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by mikedatiger

Salty, that is my pic and you owe me royalties. Screw all this talk, I want $$$

BTW, I saw a post saying how one of the guys in the pic is well respected along the TX coast. I have fished with several "prominent" TX fishermen/fisherwomen and have yet to see one keep a sow trout...

The fact that I chose it is payment enough.

It is a masterpiece, Micah.